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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 11:17:33 GMT -5
My stance is have an outline planned out and know where you're going, but you also need to be able to adjust on the fly, because what if the audience isn't going along with what you are doing, are you just going to say "well here's what we planned out, so sit there and like it" or can you just adjust to what the audience wants? What if it's time for the heat but the audience isn't ready to be cut off yet and doing that would take all of the wind out of the crowd? can you adjust on the fly and read the crowd. You can plan out a match the best that you can, and know the story of where you are going, but when you get in front of the audience who wasn't in on the pre-show meeting, they might react in different spots than you planned them to, so you need both a plan of what you are doing, and the ability to adjust once you have a crowd reacting to what you are doing
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Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 21, 2022 16:17:48 GMT -5
Went and asked a pile of the wrestlers I know. And most of them said "All I want to know is how long we got and who wins and how. The rest we call it in the ring."
The only ones that said they liked to plan out most of the match is the younger guys. Most of whom only wrestle in MS.
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tafkaga
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Post by tafkaga on Sept 22, 2022 11:48:31 GMT -5
I wonder how much more favorably we'd look at someone like Warrior if he'd done more step-by-step planning the way he and Hogan did for WM6. (I presume Savage also laid out the WM7 match spot by spot.) Some wrestlers clearly benefit from having it spelled out for them. If the result is masterpiece-level matches from "bad workers," then it's a good thing, right? I don't think Warrior cared about his match quality. I think he believed that his money was going to be in the gimmick, and that working any harder in the ring wouldn't result in any additional support or money. I think he did, but I think his idea of match quality had to end with the gimmick going over. We saw him rise to the occasion and show that he could tell a great story in the ring when he was working with Hogan and Savage, but I think that's because he could see how it was mapped out from beginning to end. He was never going to be a good "call it in the ring" guy because his version of calling it was looking invulnerable and he wasn't going to trust anyone else to call it in a way that put the character over, and in the end that's all he was really interested in. Best case scenario, I think you could present Warrior with a scenario that puts Warrior over, but still score enough points on him to save face and not look like a complete jobber.
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Post by chronocross on Sept 22, 2022 12:29:56 GMT -5
As long as it's entertaining to me, I don't care which method the wrestlers use.
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Post by Fade on Sept 22, 2022 14:20:51 GMT -5
As someone that acted a lot, this shit gives me anxiety. I get memorizing an absurd amount of content. Easy. Piece of cake.
Even in terms of physicality, I get it because they can always verbally remind each other what’s next.
Calling it on the fly is the part that gives me anxiety because..man, that just must take balls. Especially today. You’ve got to be really confident in your shit or have seamless chemistry with your opponent.
Closest thing I can relate it to is improv, but with that, you acknowledge you’re playing into the crowd. In wrestling..they have to play the crowd while acting as if they’re NOT playing to the crowd. It’s absurd. It’s incredible. Huge reason I love wrestling.
Anyway..I really don’t care. I think planning it out has given us many visual spectacles. I think I respect those who call it in the ring much more. And I think if it flows..those matches will always be better and got more “umph” to them, so-to-speak.
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