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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Mar 28, 2023 22:43:26 GMT -5
I really hope Bray Wyatt wanted Brock Lesnar to kill him at Wrestlemania so that he could become Super Mega Howdy and WWE were just like dude stop smoking that shit we miss the old you so he took off in his biker jacket
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 29, 2023 0:51:37 GMT -5
Don't know if it has already been talked about yet but apparently the news making some rounds is he wanted Brock to "kill" him at WrestleMania causing the monster in him to rise and be set free by Uncle Howdy. Then the match at The Royal Rumble sucked. Brock said no, they switched it to Bobby, and on top of that WWE just wanted Fiend back instead of this new Monster. So as a result Bray asked for time off. I really wish someone involved would do a shoot interview in the future cause I'd be fascinated to find out what the original idea from Bray was, and why things changed. How much was poor reception, how much was it just not translating, how much was creative just not liking it, and how much was Bray just not being able to go in the ring currently. I do suspect the final point of Bray's physical condition may be playing more of a part in it than anything else.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 29, 2023 1:02:38 GMT -5
The two guys he converted (Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton) weren’t even truly converts. Just going along to kick his ass eventually. I still don't remotely understand Orton's plan in particular. Yes, I will spend months beating up potential allies just in case I win the Royal Rumble while Bray wins the WWE title so I can then give up my title shot in the hopes of distracting him long enough for me to burn his house down while hoping I can get the shot back afterward! It especially sucks because Orton actually fit in, like, really well with the Wyatts and him and Bray had great chemistry as partners which they very firmly do not have as opponents. Overly convoluted plans are Orton's M.O. Remember his big plan to take away the title from Triple H at Mania 25 started by kicking Vince in the head while he neither was the Ruble winner yet, nor was Triple H champion.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Mar 29, 2023 23:18:38 GMT -5
I hope when all is said and done Bray finds a way to work within the walls of the WWE. I think he needs to be a little less abstract and get to the point quicker, but I don't think he can do this sorta stuff on this level anywhere but WWE.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 29, 2023 23:21:29 GMT -5
I hope when all is said and done Bray finds a way to work within the walls of the WWE. I think he needs to be a little less abstract and get to the point quicker, but I don't think he can do this sorta stuff on this level anywhere but WWE. I mean no one else is going to give him the budget he has in the WWE. Save for AEW and Tony has made it pretty abundantly clear he's not interested.
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Post by lucaslawless on Mar 30, 2023 1:09:53 GMT -5
I honestly dont think Bray is the storytelling mastermind he makes out to be and the WWE know hes difficult with certain gimmicks they so give him and allow him to adapt them somewhat. Sure, I think there have been a couple of ideas that he has pushed and somewhat have worked but this time the WWE have given a little too much and this entire return as been a cluster of drivel. It shows that creative control for certain superstars doesn't always work out how they think it should.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 30, 2023 1:26:26 GMT -5
his ass really wanted the Mortal Kombat movie ending at Wrestlemania
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 30, 2023 1:44:20 GMT -5
Honestly even if I were booking my character to be murdered at WrestleMania Lesnar is not the guy I'd go with to do it. I'd probably opt for Apollo Crews or Isla Dawn or something, someone who you could really go absolutely insane with.
Though the whole idea is just stupid 'cause, like, Orton effectively killed the dude twice as it was and all he's done since returning from that is pick his ass for six months and plug Mountain Dew. Any sort of rising from the ashes evil transformation should've happened at the start of this run.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2023 5:14:11 GMT -5
Honestly even if I were booking my character to be murdered at WrestleMania Lesnar is not the guy I'd go with to do it. I'd probably opt for Apollo Crews or Isla Dawn or something, someone who you could really go absolutely insane with. Though the whole idea is just stupid 'cause, like, Orton effectively killed the dude twice as it was and all he's done since returning from that is pick his ass for six months and plug Mountain Dew. Any sort of rising from the ashes evil transformation should've happened at the start of this run. Literally when the shoot promo where he was talking from the heart got cut off, that should have been mortal Bray leaving and a new, crazier Bray, coming to the surface, one where he is fully "In control" Instead we got Uncle Howdy, with no explanation to who or what he was or is (Still don't), Bray saying he was Howdy, then Howdy being his own separate person jumping off a stage during a Mountain Dew match, also the Firefly Funhouse is back and so is Funhouse Bray with no explanation of how it all ties together, oh and Alexa Bliss may all be in on it too, again, she went heel and then just vanished, so like... maybe? For me the Chicago crowd being so hype to see Uncle Howdy for the first time just for him to stand at the entrance and laugh for five minutes while Bray and Knight stared, dumbfounded, for so long that the crowd pop just died and Howdy was eventually laughing to crickets as they realized "Wait... that's it? This is the whole segment? We waited like three months for THAT?" was the moment I feel like Bray lost a lot of people on this and their patience wore out, and then Howdy did his yeet off the stage and missed Knight completely... and it was the literal Jump the Shark moment.
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Post by coleslaw on Mar 30, 2023 9:22:18 GMT -5
I'm so f***ing mad we got robbed of Brock Lesnar roaring in victory while Bray Wyatt lies face down in a giant bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch in the background
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Mar 30, 2023 10:12:54 GMT -5
Wyatt literally has the creativity of an adolescent. Holy hell.
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 30, 2023 11:10:58 GMT -5
Don't know if it has already been talked about yet but apparently the news making some rounds is he wanted Brock to "kill" him at WrestleMania causing the monster in him to rise and be set free by Uncle Howdy. Then the match at The Royal Rumble sucked. Brock said no, they switched it to Bobby, and on top of that WWE just wanted Fiend back instead of this new Monster. So as a result Bray asked for time off. Damn he screwed Lashley out of a WM paycheck
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 30, 2023 14:31:32 GMT -5
Bray just reminds me that being called "creative" is a neutral term.
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Post by XIII on Mar 30, 2023 16:34:47 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt is the wrestling equivalent of a modern horror movie that looks like it should be good, and then you watch it and the plot is nonexistent so it relies on the visual aesthetic more than anything.
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Post by XIII on Mar 30, 2023 19:09:49 GMT -5
Don't know if it has already been talked about yet but apparently the news making some rounds is he wanted Brock to "kill" him at WrestleMania causing the monster in him to rise and be set free by Uncle Howdy. Then the match at The Royal Rumble sucked. Brock said no, they switched it to Bobby, and on top of that WWE just wanted Fiend back instead of this new Monster. So as a result Bray asked for time off. the story gets better: he was supposedly given a show off and then no showed MSG the next night. LMAO.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 30, 2023 19:18:59 GMT -5
I really liked the Bray return promo, and I liked the slow-slow-slooooow burn in the build for the LA Knight feud.
I don't know what motivated the Funhouse return, or whether Howdy was supposed to lead to a role for Bo Dallas or Cameron Grimes or Barry Windham, and who knows how Alexa was supposed to tie-in had it not been for the skin cancer or what he was going to do with Lashley (and I found those initial Bray-Bobby interactions more compelling that I thought I would).
I still have faith in Bray. If he wants to mess with our expectations and conventions and do something drawn out, let him draw it allllllll the way. I'm looking forward to his return.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Mar 30, 2023 19:54:07 GMT -5
I really liked the Bray return promo, and I liked the slow-slow-slooooow burn in the build for the LA Knight feud. I don't know what motivated the Funhouse return, or whether Howdy was supposed to lead to a role for Bo Dallas or Cameron Grimes or Barry Windham, and who knows how Alexa was supposed to tie-in had it not been for the skin cancer or what he was going to do with Lashley (and I found those initial Bray-Bobby interactions more compelling that I thought I would). I still have faith in Bray. If he wants to mess with our expectations and conventions and do something drawn out, let him draw it allllllll the way. I'm looking forward to his return. You and me both.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 30, 2023 19:56:54 GMT -5
I certainly get WWE just wanting The Fiend back; it was pretty clear even before the Mountain Dew Pitch Black Match (ugh) this whole thing wasn't working. Props to Bray for not wanting to go back to old hat I guess, but sometimes you gotta recognize when something isn't panning out and pivot to something successful.
Plus, I'm pretty sure The Fiend is more or less what fans wanted anyway with Bray.
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Post by Fade on Mar 30, 2023 21:32:36 GMT -5
Bobby got so f***ed lol but probably better this way than the alternative.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 30, 2023 21:43:40 GMT -5
"So, sure, he beats me in the end, but then I come back as a bigger monster with a new mask."
And what then?
"Then I'm invincible for a while, then someone beats me in the end and I come back as an even bigger monster with an even newer mask."
And what then?
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