tafkaga
Samurai Cop
the Dogfather
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 12, 2022 20:12:09 GMT -5
Chris Jericho! There have been some cringey things before AEW (the Painmaker "gimmick") and the first year in All Elite had some fun moments ("I've got a ticket!"), but since then it's nearly all cringe.The ongoing JAS and sportsentertainer stuff is internal pain inducing, in every segment. Horrible. His main problem is believing himself to be a rock star. Also, being a giant tool IRL. I used to think he was cool, until a guy hears Chris Irvine speak. I'll pile on with this. He was one of my favorite acts and now I just see some cringy old man who needs to go the eff away. |
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tirtefaa
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If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
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Post by tirtefaa on Nov 12, 2022 20:25:23 GMT -5
Then he denounced the gimmick on live TV, saying he would never do it again and wanted to be himself...then went back to the gimmick a month later.  |
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Post by 4real on Nov 12, 2022 22:00:10 GMT -5
X-Pac was massively over as an underdog face in 99
By mid 2000 people were sick of him and Jericho made fun of him still wearing DX attire when the group was over. The heel turn on Kane killed his coolness completely.
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fw91
Patti Mayonnaise
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Tribe has spoken for 2024 Mets
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Post by fw91 on Nov 12, 2022 23:21:06 GMT -5
The Hardyz
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pinja
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Post by pinja on Nov 13, 2022 0:34:00 GMT -5
What are some examples of performers who have gone from cutting edge to cringe over the course of their in-ring career? Obviously we could point to Ric Flair's 80 year career, but I'm looking for examples that cover a comparatively brief span of time. The example that made me think of this thread is Roddy Piper, who was absolutely red hot with Piper's Pit in the mid 80's, but then over the course of the next 10 years he becomes the personification of a dad joke trying to verbally spar with the Outsiders and just looking silly and old as f***. It is painful to watch Piper in Wrestling Bios' "Reliving The War". The haircut, the attire, his overall appearance looked like he was badly trying to mimic Bob Backlund. Same goes for the Rock 'n' Roll Express in '98 WWF. They were 40 respectively 42 years old, but looked like parodies of a bygone era. |
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King Devitt
Grimlock
It gets better the longer you stare at it
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Post by King Devitt on Nov 13, 2022 2:39:28 GMT -5
Goldust was pretty interesting at first but by 1998 it was just like "let's see how many crazy outfits we can get him to wear." That whole run after he ditched Terri and was with Luna was really bad. Then he denounced the gimmick on live TV, saying he would never do it again and wanted to be himself...then went back to the gimmick a month later. In hindsight it was a bit silly, but at the time him doing the whole born again thing, and walking around with signs saying "He is Coming!" was fantastic. It worked so well that when Goldust did come back the pop was huge. |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 13, 2022 8:43:17 GMT -5
half of WCW's roster deciding to use it as a vehicle for their mid-life crisis killed it far worse than the finger poke IMO |
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Nosnorb
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Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 13, 2022 8:54:05 GMT -5
Abyss went from making Kane look like he needed to be put in a retirement home to moving around like he just got bussed in from one in the absolutely depressing span of 5 or 6 years. It still hurts a lil lmao He is like Mick Foley in that both of them have sacrificed their bodies so much that they really have paid the price. Even in 1999, Mick’s wife said he was as mobile as an old man. And just like Mick, he didn't need to in order to get over. Joseph Park was a brilliant gimmick which showed just how good he was on the mic and with character work. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 13, 2022 9:09:45 GMT -5
half of WCW's roster deciding to use it as a vehicle for their mid-life crisis killed it far worse than the finger poke IMO To this day I have no idea what Dusty was trying to get out of it, doing these worked shoots on Zybysko (granted, it IS Zybysko, but still). Then just as the company's going to die he goes back to his goofy self. |
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 13, 2022 10:09:51 GMT -5
I'll just say Jerry Lawler and leave it at that.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 13, 2022 10:19:09 GMT -5
Vince Russo.
His booking style revived a company from the brink of death. Then he kept writing the same stuff in company after company and it never worked
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 13, 2022 11:12:38 GMT -5
TNA at its peak would swing between these two things on the same show, sometimes in one match
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tafkaga
Samurai Cop
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 13, 2022 14:53:09 GMT -5
half of WCW's roster deciding to use it as a vehicle for their mid-life crisis killed it far worse than the finger poke IMO Yeah NWO was always kind of cringy imo for this very reason. I thought they were cool as hell when I was a teenager but trying to go back and watch it now is pretty rough. The Hart Foundation is a faction from the same era that stands the test of time so much better. |
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Post by sfvega on Nov 13, 2022 16:00:37 GMT -5
What are some examples of performers who have gone from cutting edge to cringe over the course of their in-ring career? Obviously we could point to Ric Flair's 80 year career, but I'm looking for examples that cover a comparatively brief span of time. The example that made me think of this thread is Roddy Piper, who was absolutely red hot with Piper's Pit in the mid 80's, but then over the course of the next 10 years he becomes the personification of a dad joke trying to verbally spar with the Outsiders and just looking silly and old as f***. It is painful to watch Piper in Wrestling Bios' "Reliving The War". The haircut, the attire, his overall appearance looked like he was badly trying to mimic Bob Backlund. Same goes for the Rock 'n' Roll Express in '98 WWF. They were 40 respectively 42 years old, but looked like parodies of a bygone era. It is funny how close that era of RnR looked to Huckster and The Nacho Man. They stuck out like a sore thumb. |
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