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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 19, 2022 21:09:41 GMT -5
So has anyone ever used Mastodon or one of the other alternatives?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Nov 19, 2022 21:23:26 GMT -5
Twitter can hardly be considered a forum. It's the equivalent to scribbling on a bathroom wall, as Dave Chappelle said.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 19, 2022 21:40:40 GMT -5
So, the part of twitter that flags copyrighted content has broken and now people are uploading entire movies.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 19, 2022 22:39:14 GMT -5
f*** Elon Musk and his disingenuous bullshit.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Nov 19, 2022 23:19:28 GMT -5
See…if we all keep being mean to ol’ Musky he’s eventually going to unleash Skynet upon us for being dicks. Seeing how some of his cars drive and how Twitter is going I expect we’ll be ok.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 19, 2022 23:31:25 GMT -5
Please stop using the word "Mastodon"
WWE purchased the word when Vader signed for them and they now own it in all contexts, including wrestling, website names, and the long extinct genus of prehistoric elephant-like mammals.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 19, 2022 23:49:33 GMT -5
Please stop using the word "Mastodon" WWE purchased the word when Vader signed for them and they now own it in all contexts, including wrestling, website names, and the long extinct genus of prehistoric elephant-like mammals.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 20, 2022 2:15:23 GMT -5
Twitter going away has some tremendous downsides: - it's a platform that anyone anywhere in the world can directly share what's going on around them. It's broken so many stories of injustice, revolution and major movements whose elevated awareness was able to be activated and made the world a better place. - there's a lot of differently abled individuals who find Twitter their main and in some cases only place they feel comfortable having communication and feel a connection to a community. - there's a record of 16 years of interactions, cataloging relationships, memorable moments, social landmarks and touchstone events that offers both personal sentimentality and nostalgia as well as, hypothetically years from now, an invaluable catalog of real time reactions to major events. - @dril - wrestling-wise it did so much for the indys both for promotions and performers to easily spread the word about their events and talent - not to mention how #SpeakingOut largely was able to have a movement because of Twitter Elon Musk sucks and is dumb. Terrible person, sub-human scum and it's troubling how quick an impulsive billionaire can permanently derail a worldwide hub of communication. All this and killing Twitter gives more power to Zuckerberg, Google, and TikTok when everyone would be better served by reducing their market shares.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 20, 2022 2:19:08 GMT -5
f*** Elon Musk and his disingenuous bullshit. I hope he steps on a LEGO... one that's permanently on fire.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 20, 2022 2:21:05 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 20, 2022 2:29:08 GMT -5
Between the tons of people improperly fired, the verification hijinks and the impact that had on stocks and the like, and the copyright system being busted this site's probably looking at like 400 years worth of lawsuits.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 20, 2022 2:29:10 GMT -5
I personally don't think Twitter is going anywhere, but it's very clear that Musk needs to delegate, and do so very soon. Part of it is that social media also have definitive momentum and even the top ones die when they lose it. I’m sure people were confident in 2006 that MySpace would always be a top site. Now I’m betting most people simply assume the site is defunct (surprisingly, it isn’t - to the relief of all 150 employees the company still has). Twitter has lost its momentum and advertisers are moving on to other sites.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 20, 2022 2:30:32 GMT -5
Big Match John after his first FAN photoshop thread gets 2 responses before getting locked: Bob's internet go down that day?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 20, 2022 2:39:32 GMT -5
Given the very public animosity between Musk and his trans child, this looks like a particularly targeted, vindictive, personal move on his part. Did not know that about him. I guess I was wrong; I can find a way to despise him even more.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 20, 2022 3:26:52 GMT -5
So, the part of twitter that flags copyrighted content has broken and now people are uploading entire movies. I'm sure everything will be fine when say something like the World Cup starts. Nothing's gonna break with a massively reduced staff for something a little popular that will have people all over the world talking. Twitter going away has some tremendous downsides: - it's a platform that anyone anywhere in the world can directly share what's going on around them. It's broken so many stories of injustice, revolution and major movements whose elevated awareness was able to be activated and made the world a better place. - there's a lot of differently abled individuals who find Twitter their main and in some cases only place they feel comfortable having communication and feel a connection to a community. - there's a record of 16 years of interactions, cataloging relationships, memorable moments, social landmarks and touchstone events that offers both personal sentimentality and nostalgia as well as, hypothetically years from now, an invaluable catalog of real time reactions to major events. - @dril - wrestling-wise it did so much for the indys both for promotions and performers to easily spread the word about their events and talent - not to mention how #SpeakingOut largely was able to have a movement because of Twitter Elon Musk sucks and is dumb. Terrible person, sub-human scum and it's troubling how quick an impulsive billionaire can permanently derail a worldwide hub of communication. All this and killing Twitter gives more power to Zuckerberg, Google, and TikTok when everyone would be better served by reducing their market shares. Maybe, that's not a guarantee that site will even be allowed.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 20, 2022 4:53:53 GMT -5
So has anyone ever used Mastodon or one of the other alternatives? I'm enjoying mastodon so far, I plonked myself on there, started chatting with a friend and through that, I've already gained a bunch of new followers, other friends and friends of friends I've never spoken to before, it's all very chill and, you know, social. Getting started seems to be the hard part as everyone is on different islands, so to speak, it takes work to find people at first. I'll put it like this, I open Mastodon wondering what friends are up to while I used to open twitter with a sense of dread.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2022 14:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah, none of this is really good news. Twitter always had tons of garbage, especially when they decided to let the "rage clicks are best for business" algorithm take over, but it doesn't change that Twitter has been a huge, huge reason that many marginalized communities have managed in modern times to actually have their voices heard by the mainstream. Movements for liberation in the Middle East, against police brutality, against sexual assault, and just advocating for the visibility and rights of groups ranging from transgender people to the disabled, those groups have always been there but were more easily ignored before there was a platform that mainstream media was eager to engage with.
Beyond that, Twitter served many people as much more intuitive RSS feed; I know I've used it to learn from some very interesting academics, to learn sports statistics, to read the work of reputable independent/non-mainstream journalists, etc. There's a bevy of interesting information to be found on there if one is curating what they're getting.
And man oh man, there's some intensely mediocre-yet-famous-or-rich-or-influential people out there who in a Twitter-less world would be out there spouting their mediocre takes and not getting to hear from people that their farts do, indeed, stink. That's not "callout culture", it's people getting a chance to tell those in ivory towers "Hey, your takes suck, and you probably have your job because your parents knew some people at (insert well known publication here)" or what have you, and it's hard to put a price on how important that can be.
But then the emerald mine failson came along and threw a hissy fit about people telling him he's a useless lump who makes shitty products and has never contributed a single idea that has actually done anything to improve society (instead, he's most often actively made it worse!), so he had to come in and break everybody's toys because he's an overgrown toddler who sits around in a diaper overflowing with feces but pouts whenever someone points out he might need a changing.
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Post by Burst on Nov 20, 2022 17:31:20 GMT -5
I'm still trying to think if we've ever seen a platform the size of Twitter crash and burn this badly. Even MySpace at its peak didn't have the level of investment Twitter has had. That, if nothing else, makes me feel that whatever replacement platform gets the most positive momentum, will get built back up pretty quickly.
With as entrenched as Twitter has gotten, for better or for worse, I see people looking to fill that status quo pretty quickly.
Just hoping it's an independent company that gets the momentum and not something put out by Google or Amazon or Facebook or basically any existing tech giant.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 20, 2022 18:00:56 GMT -5
I'm still trying to think if we've ever seen a platform the size of Twitter crash and burn this badly. Even MySpace at its peak didn't have the level of investment Twitter has had. That, if nothing else, makes me feel that whatever replacement platform gets the most positive momentum, will get built back up pretty quickly. With as entrenched as Twitter has gotten, for better or for worse, I see people looking to fill that status quo pretty quickly. Just hoping it's an independent company that gets the momentum and not something put out by Google or Amazon or Facebook or basically any existing tech giant. In fairness, an independent company that gains 1/10th the momentum Twitter carried is going to be bought so damn fast by one of the tech giants you mentioned. I mean, I dunno, I'd be cool with just a social media platform that had policies regarding content and stuck to those polices regarding content. Human nature is always going to be what it is and there's only so much you can do there, but there can be a balance of allowing every side to express themselves and protecting folks from harassment and hate.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 20, 2022 18:09:15 GMT -5
I'm still trying to think if we've ever seen a platform the size of Twitter crash and burn this badly. Even MySpace at its peak didn't have the level of investment Twitter has had. That, if nothing else, makes me feel that whatever replacement platform gets the most positive momentum, will get built back up pretty quickly. With as entrenched as Twitter has gotten, for better or for worse, I see people looking to fill that status quo pretty quickly. Just hoping it's an independent company that gets the momentum and not something put out by Google or Amazon or Facebook or basically any existing tech giant. It's new territory, really: MySpace was supplanted by Facebook in a relatively smooth manner, but the core of the impacted userbase was a bunch of ancient Millenials (like me) - Twitter is the main platform that modern media elites and major figures have really gravitated to and legitimized, to the point that they take Twitter discourse and almost always elevate it far beyond what its actual statistical scope is. Like, reporters from the biggest newspapers, the biggest names in politics and entertainment, etc., Twitter is basically *the* platform for them, and there's no real "organic" transition to a new platform on the horizon. If Twitter was simply being supplanted by a new platform that did similar things ala how Facebook took MySpace's spot on the totem pole, that'd be one thing, but this is going to be kind of wild for awhile. Oh, and Musk tweeted in all caps that "twitter is alive" today, so you know there's probably a priest walking in to administer Last Rites within the next couple of days.
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