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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 27, 2022 1:24:32 GMT -5
Yea, like Iyo has surprisingly looked really sloppy at points. Her bread and butter is being all time great in the ring and for some reason she just looks lost at points I still think if/when they want to make a change to the group, add Raquel and let her get over as a heel like she did in NXT and let Iyo go off on her own to do singles work as a babyface I wonder if her and Bianca just don't work together well for some reason. Like tonight when her and Asuka had their sequence she looked amazing. Then one minute later she for some reason can't do an elevated dropkick in the corner. And it's not like you can blame Bianca as she was just sitting there waiting for her. They did have those two extended Raw matches which were basically just Bianca beating her up for 90% of the match. They weren't as bad as Bianca/Sonya, but neither stood out.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Nov 27, 2022 1:24:37 GMT -5
I really hope they turn Dakota face at some point, after Damage CTRL break up.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 27, 2022 1:30:20 GMT -5
I really hope they turn Dakota face at some point, after Damage CTRL break up. Tegan returning and then them reuniting would be fire I think.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Nov 27, 2022 1:35:58 GMT -5
I really hope they turn Dakota face at some point, after Damage CTRL break up. Tegan returning and then them reuniting would be fire I think. Tegan and Dakota reuniting to face a reunited Cora and Roxanne would be a good women's tag title rivalry.
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Post by Stu on Nov 27, 2022 1:38:58 GMT -5
Still funny that Dakota used to be Bayley V2. Actually, it’s sorta funny Bayley was Bayley V1.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 27, 2022 2:27:52 GMT -5
Also, thinking about the original question, maybe Nikki is going to be Bianca's immediate next feud before building up to Rhea. Bianca already beat her clean on Raw, but that's never stopped them before with Bianca feuds, as Bayley's well and truly showed.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 27, 2022 2:32:17 GMT -5
I wonder if her and Bianca just don't work together well for some reason. Like tonight when her and Asuka had their sequence she looked amazing. Then one minute later she for some reason can't do an elevated dropkick in the corner. And it's not like you can blame Bianca as she was just sitting there waiting for her. They did have those two extended Raw matches which were basically just Bianca beating her up for 90% of the match. They weren't as bad as Bianca/Sonya, but neither stood out. Yeah, could just be 2 good wrestlers that don't have chemistry for whatever reason. Iyo''s had good chemistry with Alexa. Also, thinking about the original question, maybe Nikki is going to be Bianca's immediate next feud before building up to Rhea. Bianca already beat her clean on Raw, but that's never stopped them before with Bianca feuds, as Bayley's well and truly showed. I think they may be setting up the Alexa vs Nikki feud, with Nikki screaming she hasn't forgotten what Alexa did, and Alexa "not being herself" (as commentary's mentioned). Crazy Nikki against an Alexa that doesn't seem all there with Bray back in the fold.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 2:54:36 GMT -5
They did have those two extended Raw matches which were basically just Bianca beating her up for 90% of the match. They weren't as bad as Bianca/Sonya, but neither stood out. Yeah, could just be 2 good wrestlers that don't have chemistry for whatever reason. Iyo''s had good chemistry with Alexa. Also, thinking about the original question, maybe Nikki is going to be Bianca's immediate next feud before building up to Rhea. Bianca already beat her clean on Raw, but that's never stopped them before with Bianca feuds, as Bayley's well and truly showed. I think they may be setting up the Alexa vs Nikki feud, with Nikki screaming she hasn't forgotten what Alexa did, and Alexa "not being herself" (as commentary's mentioned). Crazy Nikki against an Alexa that doesn't seem all there with Bray back in the fold. So, you've got most likely Bayley(along with Damage Ctrl) feuding with Becky Lynch; Rhea Ripley feuding with Mia Yim(and apparently Asuka judging by that Instagram video of Rhea complaining about getting "Misted"); Alexa Bliss feuding with Nikki Cross. So, everyone in the women's division has something to do except for the actual champion.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 27, 2022 3:02:12 GMT -5
Rhea was put over more in that they booked her stronger especially with her getting the better of Becky during their exchange. So they were definitely protective of her showing vulnerability against Becky and Bianca as those are probably two big programs they have planned down the road. Nikki though I thought stood out more. Nikki also came in earlier and as a result got more ring time so that might have had something to do with it. Honestly I thought the two best people in the match were Asuka and Dakota. Dakota mainly for all the bumps she took and Asuka in that she always involved in the action it seemed and did everything she had to do well. Iyo had her moments as well for sure but also had that akward botch in the corner with Bianca early on. Strangely the four big stars in the match Becky, Bianca, Bayley, and Rhea really didn't stand out that much. Becky had the big spot at the end with the legdrop off the cage but Iyo and Nikki also getting leap off the cage spots kind of took away from it. Dakota has been the MVP of these matches when it is her chance to shine Kai's gonna have a long career being the mechanic of the division holding these kinds of multi-person matches together (if she stays healthy). You need those kinds of women on a roster, especially this one that only really has Natalya in that role.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 3:10:23 GMT -5
Dakota has been the MVP of these matches when it is her chance to shine Kai's gonna have a long career being the mechanic of the division holding these kinds of multi-person matches together (if she stays healthy). You need those kinds of women on a roster, especially this one that only really has Natalya in that role. Grooming her to be the next Natalya wouldn't be a bad idea at all. She seems very respected and liked backstage and like Natalya seems to pretty durable as I think she's only been hurt once (knee in 2018 I think).
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Post by 4real on Nov 27, 2022 5:55:59 GMT -5
Much prefer this to Nikki ASH. I wish WWE had taken more time to build it but hey.
Rhea is bound to get a big push soon so I don’t think she was hurt by anything last night. I hope it’s her v Bianca at Mania but I have a horrible feeling it’s going to be Bianca v Charlotte.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 6:04:17 GMT -5
Much prefer this to Nikki ASH. I wish WWE had taken more time to build it but hey. Rhea is bound to get a big push soon so I don’t think she was hurt by anything last night. I hope it’s her v Bianca at Mania but I have a horrible feeling it’s going to be Bianca v Charlotte. I'm really dreading Charlotte coming back. She's really not needed in a big Mania match at all. Becky against Ronda and Bianca against Rhea as the two title matches would be so much better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 7:34:57 GMT -5
As corny as others may find her gimmick, she's so much better this way. It's amazing what a difference this makes. Nikki ASH was one of the worst gimmicks in recent history. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if Molly Holly and The Hurricane didn't do it earlier. Whenever they rehash a gimmick, I just can't help but compare it to the original. I would have loved SAnitY to thrive on the main roster with Nikki. But they called them up without her and it sucked.
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Post by J is Justice on Nov 27, 2022 7:44:43 GMT -5
I thought she was the best part of the match.
I also agree with the discussion on Dakota. I was actually thinking last night about how I feel she's been the best part of Damage CTRL.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 27, 2022 7:46:08 GMT -5
As corny as others may find her gimmick, she's so much better this way. This is *better* than Nikki A.S.H but that's not saying much. Frankly, her "crazy" shtick running around making goofy faces is just a different level of cringe.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Nov 27, 2022 8:22:20 GMT -5
As corny as others may find her gimmick, she's so much better this way. This is *better* than Nikki A.S.H but that's not saying much. Frankly, her "crazy" shtick running around making goofy faces is just a different level of cringe. I honestly haven't really been bothered by it. Maybe the Nikki A.S.H. character was just that bad.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 27, 2022 8:29:21 GMT -5
As corny as others may find her gimmick, she's so much better this way. This is *better* than Nikki A.S.H but that's not saying much. Frankly, her "crazy" shtick running around making goofy faces is just a different level of cringe. Eh, I like it as she seems to better naturally fit playing this. Plus, I remember that fun interaction in NXT years ago with her and Aelister Black when she had a secret and he appeared in the ring to demand it from her.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 27, 2022 8:33:00 GMT -5
This is *better* than Nikki A.S.H but that's not saying much. Frankly, her "crazy" shtick running around making goofy faces is just a different level of cringe. I honestly haven't really been bothered by it. Maybe the Nikki A.S.H. character was just that bad. I don't think the idea was terrible, but it was instantly doomed by rushing her to the MITB win and cash-in. A character like that would have made more sense as an underdog fans could gradually get behind, rather than already reaching the top and still being an obvious underdog.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 27, 2022 8:35:58 GMT -5
I honestly haven't really been bothered by it. Maybe the Nikki A.S.H. character was just that bad. I don't think the idea was terrible, but it was instantly doomed by rushing her to the MITB win and cash-in. A character like that would have made more sense as an underdog fans could gradually get behind, rather than already reaching the top and still being an obvious underdog. I think even if they'd booked it well the presentation would have completely doomed it. Between the stupid, clunky name that undermined the entire concept, the terribly generic cheap-ass costume, and her, "Aw shucks, I'm basically a 4-year-old," approach to acting the part it was just unfathomably lame.
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Post by tntchamp on Nov 27, 2022 11:32:38 GMT -5
As corny as others may find her gimmick, she's so much better this way. This is *better* than Nikki A.S.H but that's not saying much. Frankly, her "crazy" shtick running around making goofy faces is just a different level of cringe. Yeah I agree with this. I like Nikki as a talent but her playing crazy comes off as a cringe worthy amateur acting that is unintentionally hilarious. Granted it still beats her superhero gimmick.
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