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Post by Big BosskMan on Dec 23, 2022 20:15:42 GMT -5
I'll throw this one out: teams from the "future" a la The New Breed (JCP version) or Tekno Team 2000.
Typically attired or styled in some weird ways, even if by "future" norms, which is only 10 years down the road - yet their movesets were not remotely innovative or different from what was happening in ring at the present time.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 23, 2022 20:27:32 GMT -5
After years of being one half of the one of the world's greatest tag teams... Reverend D-Von?
How about Chas and D'Lo... with TURBANS?
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Post by saneiac on Dec 24, 2022 7:50:06 GMT -5
What also didn't help was he wasn't involved in any meaningful storylines to get the fans to care about him(negatively or positively). Maybe if he feuded with an over midcarder, he might've had a shot at getting people to care about him. Maybe not a decent shot, but a shot no less. At almost the exact same time that Rob Conway failed to get over because of not having anything to do as The Con Man, one of the Bashams was failing to get over because of not having anything to do as The Bash Man. WWE put zero effort into either of them.
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Post by government mule on Dec 24, 2022 10:41:43 GMT -5
After years of being one half of the one of the world's greatest tag teams... Reverend D-Von? I've said before in another thread that I would die on the hill of the Reverend D'Von. I think it's a great idea that was executed very poorly, as you'd expect from the WWE and of course Vince lost interest in it straight away, but I do think it had legs, particularly as it gave the world a certain Deacon.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 17, 2023 14:36:59 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Barry Darsow's golfer gimmick had no chance of getting over. How can a golfer be intimidating? Would he attack you with his golf club? I'm serious, a gimmick like that has no place in wrestling.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jan 17, 2023 16:07:36 GMT -5
Definetly Bastian Booger. On one hand, it’s a 90s gimmick and the 90s was a boom period for gross out humor. Soooo maybe that was the idea. But everything about him was massively unappealing. He wasn’t funny, or charismatic. He wasn’t menacing enough to be a heel and wasn’t likable enough to get over with kids and possibly be a face. Mike Shaw, who apparently used to be a great big man worker in Canada was having horrible matches as well. So it was a loser all around.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jan 17, 2023 21:49:27 GMT -5
Occupation based gimmicks. There's a reason no one is playing a construction worker or hockey goon these days. Setting aside his personal beliefs, what would AEW or WWE do with someone like Luigi Primo? Job to some top guys, maybe compete for a joke title, and that's about it? Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake was over, as was Big Bossman(police man). I.R.S. as an evil tax accountant shouldn't have been over, but he was, which is why I disagree with his Wrestlecrap induction. But was Beefcake's gimmick a barber who stripped on the side, or a stripper who also did hair?
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jan 17, 2023 23:53:02 GMT -5
Oh hey his name is Rob Conway.. How about he does things... The CON WAY!!.. Hah get it? I remember when Doug Basham essentially tried the same gimmick on Velocity as the Bash Man
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 18, 2023 2:14:08 GMT -5
You say that but Bull Dempsey was kinda getting that over as a comedy gimmick in NXT before swapping to Bull Fit. >_>
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 18, 2023 2:39:40 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Barry Darsow's golfer gimmick had no chance of getting over. How can a golfer be intimidating? Would he attack you with his golf club? I'm serious, a gimmick like that has no place in wrestling. I think you could make it work if you went a little more broad with it. Doing something like an above-it-all rich asshole gimmick with the twist on it that the character is so laidback and looks down on others so much that he has someone drive him to the ring in a golf cart like this is just a relaxing waste of time for him, with him occasionally turning to golf clubs he keeps in it as a weapon when needed, might actually work pretty well.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Jan 18, 2023 2:41:00 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Barry Darsow's golfer gimmick had no chance of getting over. How can a golfer be intimidating? Would he attack you with his golf club? I'm serious, a gimmick like that has no place in wrestling. I think you could make it work if you went a little more broad with it. Doing something like an above-it-all rich asshole gimmick with the twist on it that the character is so laidback and looks down on others so much that he has someone drive him to the ring in a golf cart like this is just a relaxing waste of time for him, with him occasionally turning to golf clubs he keeps in it as a weapon when needed, might actually work pretty well. Yeah, you'd have to go full Dibiase, really get that "eat the rich" heat going, but there's something to it.
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jan 18, 2023 2:56:11 GMT -5
I don't get the heat on Gobbledy Gooker. He was never supposed to be a wrestler, just a mascot. Or am I wrong?
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 18, 2023 4:55:47 GMT -5
Occupation based gimmicks. There's a reason no one is playing a construction worker or hockey goon these days. I still contend that an evil mailman would work, especially if he plays up being evil.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 18, 2023 5:01:38 GMT -5
Definetly Bastian Booger. On one hand, it’s a 90s gimmick and the 90s was a boom period for gross out humor. Soooo maybe that was the idea. But everything about him was massively unappealing. He wasn’t funny, or charismatic. He wasn’t menacing enough to be a heel and wasn’t likable enough to get over with kids and possibly be a face. Mike Shaw, who apparently used to be a great big man worker in Canada was having horrible matches as well. So it was a loser all around. Weirdly he MIIIIIGHT have had a shot a few years later when gross out humour was really big, but never anything massive.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 18, 2023 5:20:55 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Barry Darsow's golfer gimmick had no chance of getting over. How can a golfer be intimidating? Would he attack you with his golf club? I'm serious, a gimmick like that has no place in wrestling. I think you could make it work if you went a little more broad with it. Doing something like an above-it-all rich asshole gimmick with the twist on it that the character is so laidback and looks down on others so much that he has someone drive him to the ring in a golf cart like this is just a relaxing waste of time for him, with him occasionally turning to golf clubs he keeps in it as a weapon when needed, might actually work pretty well. Yeah, pretty much just mix it with Hunter Hearst Helmsley, and it'd be doable. If you're really confident, you could have him put a ball off of a tee placed between a jobber's teeth, only that's actually probably unnecessarily dangerous.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 18, 2023 8:46:54 GMT -5
I don't get the heat on Gobbledy Gooker. He was never supposed to be a wrestler, just a mascot. Or am I wrong? I think the reason why it got so much hate is because people expected it to be a debuting or returning star and instead got a giant turkey. I don't know if the heat was warranted, but fans certainly did have higher expectations. As I stated in my OP, it was a cross between a reality check on fans for thinking otherwise and a take-off on the San Diego chicken. I wish the rewriting the book article was still there, because in that one, you had the Red Rooster popping out of the egg only to attack Mean Gene and then go on a rampage for revenge for those who mocked him. That's the best use you can get out of something like that.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 18, 2023 8:52:43 GMT -5
Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake was over, as was Big Bossman(police man). I.R.S. as an evil tax accountant shouldn't have been over, but he was, which is why I disagree with his Wrestlecrap induction. But was Beefcake's gimmick a barber who stripped on the side, or a stripper who also did hair? Yes
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Post by sungod2020 on Jan 18, 2023 8:54:58 GMT -5
Definetly Bastian Booger. On one hand, it’s a 90s gimmick and the 90s was a boom period for gross out humor. Soooo maybe that was the idea. But everything about him was massively unappealing. He wasn’t funny, or charismatic. He wasn’t menacing enough to be a heel and wasn’t likable enough to get over with kids and possibly be a face. Mike Shaw, who apparently used to be a great big man worker in Canada was having horrible matches as well. So it was a loser all around. Weirdly he MIIIIIGHT have had a shot a few years later when gross out humour was really big, but never anything massive. Gross out humor was popular even then, with Beavis & Butthead and Ren & Stimpy. Even with the trend at the time, I can't see that gimmick getting over, except MAYBE as a hated heel, because being fat and gross is nothing to cheer for.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 18, 2023 8:55:49 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Barry Darsow's golfer gimmick had no chance of getting over. How can a golfer be intimidating? Would he attack you with his golf club? I'm serious, a gimmick like that has no place in wrestling. I think you could make it work if you went a little more broad with it. Doing something like an above-it-all rich asshole gimmick with the twist on it that the character is so laidback and looks down on others so much that he has someone drive him to the ring in a golf cart like this is just a relaxing waste of time for him, with him occasionally turning to golf clubs he keeps in it as a weapon when needed, might actually work pretty well. Had they continued it (which wasn't the best idea to do admittedly, even not counting Eddie's death), I could have seen the Kerwin White gimmick heading in that direction.
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Post by evilone on Jan 18, 2023 9:28:29 GMT -5
A Mummy, Yes/No guy, manic laughter guy, sea creature guy, lake creature guy, a leprechaun, solution guy, gang guys and gravedigger zombie guy.
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