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Post by Mozenrath on May 28, 2023 23:35:50 GMT -5
I am fine with this, honestly. Jade's story has been her arrogance, that she's strong but inexperienced and unwise.
Mostly, I am just glad to have a new chapter and just that, while I like Taya, she would not have been the one to do the deed. They have a ready-made rematch down the line, but for now, it's Kris. Hopefully she stays healthy this go-round.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 28, 2023 23:41:31 GMT -5
I'd have probably had the return tonight and just have the title match Wednesday but crowd was absolutely into the change.
AS for Jade, said it before, I had my eyes opened to how different the opinion of Jade was here comapred to almost every other wrestling media I go to. Most wanted the title reign to end but they wanted to elevate her and move her into more prominent stories like the Outcasts vs Homegrown feud.
The title reign? From what I remember the title was originally going to be dropped to Kris back at Grand Slam since it was her hometown, but the injury put that on hold so if anything I think we can criticize Tony and AEW for just doing the holding pattern they seem to do when an injury happens as 9 months is a long time to have plans on hold as you never know how a crowd will react (said same thing when Cody was hurt).
I think Jade has shown the capability of being very competent in the ring, but not featuring her consistently on tv was an issue. I actually think she had a bunch of good title defenses including tonight, both her matches with Anna, Tay, Athena, and Nyla. I also think when they actually did angles she handled herself well, but Jade is the type you need to have involved and while she isn't a workhorse in the ring, she can handle herself on the mic. So that was probably the bigger issue.
But I do also think that if we go back we can say that she had some good matches
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Post by asuka007 on May 28, 2023 23:45:12 GMT -5
Jade needs to pump kick Smart Mark’s head off on Dynamite for screwing up like this.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on May 28, 2023 23:46:44 GMT -5
Hopefully they're working toward a Blood and Guts women's match with The Outcasts and one more person, let's add Athena on there, she fits, vs Britt, Shida, Willow or Skye Blue or Rosa(If they can get along) and because Hayter is injured, Jade is the reluctant 4th person who gets over like rover when she comes in and kicks ass.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 28, 2023 23:49:10 GMT -5
Hopefully they're working toward a Blood and Guts women's match with The Outcasts and one more person, let's add Athena on there, she fits, vs Britt, Shida, Willow or Skye Blue or Rosa(If they can get along) and because Hayter is injured, Jade is the reluctant 4th person who gets over like rover when she comes in and kicks ass. Very safe to say Blood & Guts is going to BCC / Elite.
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Post by Mike Strike on May 28, 2023 23:51:35 GMT -5
I know I'm on an island here but I didn't hate it. Jade has asked for a second challenger before and this time, her arrogance was her undoing. That makes sense to me. Would I have preferred Statlander to come out and challenge Jade to match that would happen at a later date? Yeah, probably. But it was a hot angle on the night and I'm sure Kris will be an excellent TBS champ. I'm now going to bow out of this thread because I'm pretty certain the discussion is going to get really toxic, really quickly. It's just pro wrestling, after all. The show's called Double or Nothing for a reason.
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Post by Andee9001 on May 29, 2023 0:44:41 GMT -5
Didn't the WWE do the exact same storyline earlier in the year with Ronda and Charltotte?
Also didn't AEW also do it as well with Ricky Starks and Hook over the FTW title?
Seems like this a fairly popular wrestling story trope to use these days.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on May 29, 2023 2:23:16 GMT -5
I'm sad Kris Statlander didn't come back all decked out in KISS facepaint and wearing the Demon's ring Gear.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on May 29, 2023 2:29:21 GMT -5
I want my Casslander OTP to return with the two of them being champions. Orange Cassidy and Kris Statlander will be the next big power couple!
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on May 29, 2023 2:50:10 GMT -5
My girl Stat is back and this wretched reign is over. Much rejoicing.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 29, 2023 2:53:23 GMT -5
I do think it says something that the biggest moment of Jade's title run is her actually losing the damn thing.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2023 5:45:35 GMT -5
I do think it says something that the biggest moment of Jade's title run is her actually losing the damn thing. That's often the case with these kinds of things, I find. Long streaks invite the question of "when does it end?" and that casts a shadow over everything, especially when, outside of Nyla, she didn't really get many actual angles.
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Post by stevescorpio on May 29, 2023 5:55:34 GMT -5
I'm just happy it's over. Jade's reign was reaching Roman Reigns level of misery.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 29, 2023 6:50:24 GMT -5
I am so, so happy to see Stat back but she didn't need the double whammy of winning the title AND ending the Streak. Taya could have won here and then Stat returns to beat her later.
But I won't complain. Kris deserves it.
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Post by eJm on May 29, 2023 7:10:19 GMT -5
I’m fine with how it ended. Jade needs a shakeup and if Stat’s ready, you might as well use it in a continued women’s division reboot.
Jade is going to kill Mark Sterling, though. Like, absolutely body him. First with the Revolution PPV stuff with Tay Melo, ignoring her for Nese and company and now this? Dude needs to be hit with so many Jadeds as he’s the worst lawyer in wrestling history. I love him for it but kayfabe is kayfabe.
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Post by markymark on May 29, 2023 7:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2023 7:19:41 GMT -5
Fun to tie her loss's nature in with the PPV name.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 29, 2023 7:47:33 GMT -5
How would they pull off a jade face turn? "Time to perfect those dance moves, Jade!" -AEW booking, probably
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Post by eJm on May 29, 2023 7:49:24 GMT -5
I mean, how do you pull off a Jade face turn? Do what you're doing already, she practically gets cheered at every show and she's one of your most prominent media reps being in talks, giving out awards, being on red carpets etc so...do that but not make her cheat to win?
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Post by Hypnosis on May 29, 2023 8:24:43 GMT -5
Popped when Statlander won the title. Was still expecting her to return last night, but not to beat Cargill right after she had a match, of course.
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