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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 18, 2023 23:21:32 GMT -5
For a true example of a failed YouTuber, not in the “rise and fall” sense but in the “never able to take off, and then tried to get attention through controversy but it backfired horribly,” I have a personal fascination with DJMuel, who announced recently that he’s finally getting an IRL job because full-time content creation wasn’t working.
He’s mainly infamous in the political sphere for a takedown video of a political Twitch streamer. This video is widely considered to be the political video essay equivalent of Tommy Wiseau’s The Room or Doug Walker’s The Wall: terrible and incompetent in that lightning-in-a-bottle way which circles right back around to being a mesmerizing unintentional self-portrait of its creator and his fraught psyche.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 19, 2023 1:12:00 GMT -5
My goodness I have to share this because I can’t be the only one on here with this info rattling around in their brain. *Language warning in the following video and the relevant segment starts at 24:40 seconds in: youtu.be/Gj0xxJHk5ogIn case you don’t feel like watching the link (I don’t blame you) it’s about this guy named Bob. Bob is blind and using adaptive software is able to browse YouTube to listen to things like airplanes and other interesting noises. What interesting noises does he like most? People taking a shit. Bob doesn’t stop there, but instead posts detailed video reviews of himself talking into his webcam about what he liked and didn’t like in each video. He wants as much of the audio of the event captured as possible and asks for background details such as how big the person was who shit and what was left in the toilet. He even has one YouTuber in particular who he pointed to as the gold standard for what he looked for in these shit videos. Apparently he pestered that guy so much he blocked Bob on MySpace. He also keeps saying in his reviews that, “This is just for fun” and reminds people he is blind. He doxes himself throughout his reviews and encourages people to call or e-mail him if they want to talk and take a shit. As can be expected trolls hop right on this and send him fake shitting videos along with throwing some typical early 2000’s insults at him. Eventually Bob stops making videos, but people still repost them to this day. I think I need a break from YouTube after that segment.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on May 19, 2023 8:28:34 GMT -5
My goodness I have to share this because I can’t be the only one on here with this info rattling around in their brain. *Language warning in the following video and the relevant segment starts at 24:40 seconds in: youtu.be/Gj0xxJHk5ogIn case you don’t feel like watching the link (I don’t blame you) it’s about this guy named Bob. Bob is blind and using adaptive software is able to browse YouTube to listen to things like airplanes and other interesting noises. What interesting noises does he like most? People taking a shit. Bob doesn’t stop there, but instead posts detailed video reviews of himself talking into his webcam about what he liked and didn’t like in each video. He wants as much of the audio of the event captured as possible and asks for background details such as how big the person was who shit and what was left in the toilet. He even has one YouTuber in particular who he pointed to as the gold standard for what he looked for in these shit videos. Apparently he pestered that guy so much he blocked Bob on MySpace. He also keeps saying in his reviews that, “This is just for fun” and reminds people he is blind. He doxes himself throughout his reviews and encourages people to call or e-mail him if they want to talk and take a shit. As can be expected trolls hop right on this and send him fake shitting videos along with throwing some typical early 2000’s insults at him. Eventually Bob stops making videos, but people still repost them to this day. I think I need a break from YouTube after that segment. Kind of surprised I've never heard of this guy considering how often I've seen videos or posts about various other so called lolcows.
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Post by thechase on May 24, 2023 9:47:47 GMT -5
The recent controversies in the Transformers community regarding YT content creators Prime Animations and Orbital Bacon are getting increasingly louder now that Prime has uploaded an hour or so long video addressing his critics, I'm a bit disappointed in him as he promised he wouldn't share this kind of content on his channel because the Prime sequel trilogy is aimed at younger audiences, and the screencaps he shares don't even censor the profanity of some of these people.
And then he goes and doubles down on his association with Orbital, and then the mask slips further when he brings up the ol' 'cancel culture' chestnut. THEN he starts a transphobic rant...
I had previously opened up a thread about his project on F.A.N., and I was thinking of updating it today with the drama video, but I felt like venting about it in here instead since its' appropriate to the subject matter.
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Post by Bones58 on May 24, 2023 17:49:38 GMT -5
For a true example of a failed YouTuber, not in the “rise and fall” sense but in the “never able to take off, and then tried to get attention through controversy but it backfired horribly,” I have a personal fascination with DJMuel, who announced recently that he’s finally getting an IRL job because full-time content creation wasn’t working. He’s mainly infamous in the political sphere for a takedown video of a political Twitch streamer. This video is widely considered to be the political video essay equivalent of Tommy Wiseau’s The Room or Doug Walker’s The Wall: terrible and incompetent in that lightning-in-a-bottle way which circles right back around to being a mesmerizing unintentional self-portrait of its creator and his fraught psyche. I know exactly what you are talking about. Some of his comments are outstanding in how much they sound like a parody twitter account
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2023 16:57:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be upset with Illuminaughti about, but I do know at least one rival channel has made three videos and counting about it. Makes me feel like there's very little meat on the bone and other people are just clout chasing really hard. The drama basically boils down to she accused Legal Eagle of plagiarizing something, quickly walked it back when given evidence to the contrary and apologized, and that led to people bringing up an old creator group she had with some people into pretty edgy, offensive humor like a decade ago who she no longer associates with anymore and bringing up things like, "She was demanding money from all of them," and, "She would scream at them," when the actual context of things was her having to hound them to pay their part on mutually shared costs and having a moment of lashing out during a meeting that she wasn't mentally up for but had her arm twisted into attending where they kept cutting her off. So yeah, it's basically a whole lot of nothing. Kind of just want to follow up by saying this suuuuuper wasn't a whole lot of nothing and the situation got way the hell worse.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on May 26, 2023 17:55:13 GMT -5
The drama basically boils down to she accused Legal Eagle of plagiarizing something, quickly walked it back when given evidence to the contrary and apologized, and that led to people bringing up an old creator group she had with some people into pretty edgy, offensive humor like a decade ago who she no longer associates with anymore and bringing up things like, "She was demanding money from all of them," and, "She would scream at them," when the actual context of things was her having to hound them to pay their part on mutually shared costs and having a moment of lashing out during a meeting that she wasn't mentally up for but had her arm twisted into attending where they kept cutting her off. So yeah, it's basically a whole lot of nothing. Kind of just want to follow up by saying this suuuuuper wasn't a whole lot of nothing and the situation got way the hell worse. Care to elaborate?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 26, 2023 18:03:03 GMT -5
Kind of just want to follow up by saying this suuuuuper wasn't a whole lot of nothing and the situation got way the hell worse. Care to elaborate? Essentially it came out that she was being deceptive in presenting some of her receipts and in tying people to racist trolls and the like when they'd actually been taking action against them, she was using alternate accounts to stalk and harass people as well as digging into people's pasts to specifically find things she could use against them, and there was a whole incident where she had someone working for her she was also the landlord of and was basically using the situation to financially abuse the person while showing no concern whatsoever when the situation drove the person to be suicidal. Kind of become clear that there's a very longterm pattern of her abusing people while lining things up to make it look like she's the victim.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on May 26, 2023 18:04:48 GMT -5
Essentially it came out that she was being deceptive in presenting some of her receipts and in tying people to racist trolls and the like when they'd actually been taking action against them, she was using alternate accounts to stalk and harass people as well as digging into people's pasts to specifically find things she could use against them, and there was a whole incident where she had someone working for her she was also the landlord of and was basically using the situation to financially abuse the person while showing no concern whatsoever when the situation drove the person to be suicidal. Kind of become clear that there's a very longterm pattern of her abusing people while lining things up to make it look like she's the victim. Holy shit. Yeah, that's awful.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 29, 2023 4:29:47 GMT -5
My god all these Illuminaughtii commentary videos.
It’s like vultures swooping in on a corpse, except it’s clout chasing YouTubers trying to leech off a much more successful person for being their moral failings
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 29, 2023 4:34:44 GMT -5
~looks into camera~ SIGH "Guys, I never wanted to make this video...some things came up from my past I'm not proud of..."
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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2023 4:59:47 GMT -5
Try Guys seem like some nice dudes, and better off without Ned (Indeed, they are open about the fact that the scandal got them a LOT of views, with people trying to sift videos for evidence. Fair, given how expensive dealing with tossing out footage he was in, heavy editing, and buying him out of his ownership stake all was.)
Still, I do wish Youtube would stop trying to push videos about the ordeal onto me. I saw a handful, got my fill, and am ready to move on, Youtube, let it go.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on May 29, 2023 5:20:34 GMT -5
I err on the side of caution regarding this as there are a lot of drama channels out there that like to exaggerate certain aspects of a story while wilfully ignoring others in order to drive a specific narrative but lately, I kind of had to follow some of that ebcause I used to be subscribed to illuminaughtii and oh boy, the stuff that's come out in just a few days. Who would have thought that what seemed like rather minor, quickly solved drama would snowball into this?
First the frankly delusional accusations of plagiarism against LegalEagle that I don't think I've seen a single person support even among her fans, then people pointing out she has a habit of doing things like this as she'd made weird accusations against smaller channels before (usually arguing that she apologized in private so that's okay, despite the damage she did to their reputation), up to filing false DMCA claims on channels she didn't like, then people bringing up Sad Milk, which in turn led to its former members all coming out with stories of abuse, manipulation, hypocrisy, attempts at character assassination and generally horrible behaviour.
And the icing on the cake, Hbomberguy posting a clip exposing illuminaughtii herself comitting genuine plagiarism, leading to people pointing out more examples of her regurgitating existing articles and videos on the topic she covered word for word, often seemingly not even understanding some of the more technical terms she pronounced. Note that she claims that the Hbomberguy example wasn't actually plagiarism because she credit the documentary as a source except that's not how that works. She didn't bring it up as a quote during her video and very much presented it as her own words and research so yes, that is still plagiarism. You can't get away with that any more than people who upload entire copyrighted movies on YT and write "I own nothing. No copyright intended" in the description.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 29, 2023 8:42:27 GMT -5
Wait, there’s a YouTuber that was dumb enough to intentionally publicly defame a well-known online lawyer? Really?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 29, 2023 8:54:52 GMT -5
I’ve been watching this one about live streamers who got arrested (language warning): youtu.be/zAmJo6Zn2dA
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Post by Mike Strike on May 30, 2023 0:18:19 GMT -5
You can add me to the list, I just got 4 strikes from Fite.tv on my channel for a few vids of attending DoN.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 30, 2023 12:19:31 GMT -5
That is why with WWE or AEW if you do film at events and must upload the clips do not name them WWE or AEW. And dont put up stuff longer than a minute.
I got lucky with Impact. Had talked to 2 people we knew there,one backstage one wrestling,and was told as long as I didnt upload full matches they were good.
Question ,cause I haven't been to any of their events,Does AEW have up signs or is it on the ticketts that filming isn't allowed? If that isn't out you legally can film. Arenas are public places.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jun 13, 2023 0:03:31 GMT -5
One thing I find interesting about YouTubers that rise and fall with breakneck speed is their complete lack of media training and/or any public relations representative to assist them.
I just watched one video about the Behind the Meme guy. I had no idea I actually saw at least one of his videos before watching another that recapped his scandal. Anyway, he made these really inoffensive albeit shallow videos that broke down the origins of different memes. He started to get popular when he got some backlash including a similar content creator calling him out with a parody video.
Now look how other entertainers have handled such backlash over time. They tend to either…
A) Ignore it.
Or
B) Briefly reference it and move along.
Instead the Behind the Meme guy went with…
C) Stopped creating his usual content and made videos where he appeared to be getting into a drunken depression culminating in him making a fake suicide video.
I mean his videos weren’t groundbreaking or anything, but I had no idea of the drama surrounding him until this recap video from years later. It’s some crazy car crash entertainment that must’ve been so jarring if you were a subscriber to his channel. It would be like if in the 1990s when Jay Leno was getting a lot of hate one night he just came on and said, “No guests tonight. Instead I’m going to be getting loaded and trashing David Letterman for the next hour as I polish this loaded shotgun.”
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jun 13, 2023 13:34:01 GMT -5
Damn there’s been a new video about iiluminaughtii almost every day, and I’ve watched almost all of them haha. Great for background sound and something news pops up. This must be what it’s like for people who enjoy watching the news.
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Post by thechase on Jun 13, 2023 13:39:23 GMT -5
Is it true that Mr. Metakure lost his fight with cancer? I keep hearing conflicting reports on that
I loved his takedown essays on Channel Awesome years back
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