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Post by LiamMcDuggle on May 7, 2023 14:42:22 GMT -5
Immediately wondered what FAN was going to say when she got that reaction. For all the Cena comparisons, it’s never looked more the case than tonight lol It's not just a wrestling thing. Long term winners in any medium become hated after a while. They also become more of a draw
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 7, 2023 14:51:50 GMT -5
I didn't really get the finish. Graves was trying to put over Bayley maybe costing Iyo the match by interfering too much but she really didn't. The ref just caught her holding onto Bianca's pony tail which allowed her to move out of the way of the moonsault and then win clean with her finish. So basically Bianca would've just moved out of the way even easier if Bayley wasn't there. I didn't get it. Why not just have Bayley accidentally hit her or trip or something? Instead it just made it look like Iyo lost DESPITE Bayley helping her not BECAUSE of it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 7, 2023 14:59:51 GMT -5
I didn't really get the finish. Graves was trying to put over Bayley maybe costing Iyo the match by interfering too much but she really didn't. The ref just caught her holding onto Bianca's pony tail which allowed her to move out of the way of the moonsault and then win clean with her finish. So basically Bianca would've just moved out of the way even easier if Bayley wasn't there. I didn't get it. Why not just have Bayley accidentally hit her or trip or something? Instead it just made it look like Iyo lost DESPITE Bayley helping her not BECAUSE of it. Not really Iyo had Bianca down the whole match. Those extra few seconds where she got caught was enough for Bianca to get her bearings and move out the way. Kai had already kicked Bianca and had her down, Bayley didn't have to do anything
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 15:01:04 GMT -5
I didn't really get the finish. Graves was trying to put over Bayley maybe costing Iyo the match by interfering too much but she really didn't. The ref just caught her holding onto Bianca's pony tail which allowed her to move out of the way of the moonsault and then win clean with her finish. So basically Bianca would've just moved out of the way even easier if Bayley wasn't there. I didn't get it. Why not just have Bayley accidentally hit her or trip or something? Instead it just made it look like Iyo lost DESPITE Bayley helping her not BECAUSE of it. I think the end is easily understandable. Bayley had no reason to interfere IYO had it (presumeably) won so IYO is up there wondering what the hell Bayley is doing which gives just enough time for Bianca to terminator up and win. And going off of the fact that IYO came out by herself and Dakota's reactions that they were not suppose to be out there at all. And just to take this a bit further when Bianca had IYO up in the KOD that only Dakota got up on the apron to cause a distraction which lead to IYO being a milisecond away from winning.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 7, 2023 15:17:53 GMT -5
I didn't really get the finish. Graves was trying to put over Bayley maybe costing Iyo the match by interfering too much but she really didn't. The ref just caught her holding onto Bianca's pony tail which allowed her to move out of the way of the moonsault and then win clean with her finish. So basically Bianca would've just moved out of the way even easier if Bayley wasn't there. I didn't get it. Why not just have Bayley accidentally hit her or trip or something? Instead it just made it look like Iyo lost DESPITE Bayley helping her not BECAUSE of it. I think the end is easily understandable. Bayley had no reason to interfere IYO had it (presumeably) won so IYO is up there wondering what the hell Bayley is doing which gives just enough time for Bianca to terminator up and win. And going off of the fact that IYO came out by herself and Dakota's reactions that they were not suppose to be out there at all. And just to take this a bit further when Bianca had IYO up in the KOD that only Dakota got up on the apron to cause a distraction which lead to IYO being a milisecond away from winning. I guess. IDK it just didn't seem like it caused that much of a delay between when Bayley grabbed the hair and Iyo leapt. Made it came off like Bianca still would've move anyways either way. Iyo having Bianca pinned with the moonsault and the ref not being able to count due to being distracted with Bayley trying to interfere would've put across the story they were trying to tell better I feel. However they always like Bianca to look so strong and never vulnerable so I guess I'm not surprised they would do something like that even if meant going a more confusing route that wasn't as effective in trying to sell the Damage CTRL dissension.
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Post by asuka007 on May 7, 2023 15:43:18 GMT -5
The finish was solid in concept. But the execution of it was a bit sloppy.
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Post by mistery on May 7, 2023 16:47:41 GMT -5
Fightful mentioned that people backstage were incredibly high on Iyo/Bianca, and that they got a standing ovation from everyone in the back over it.
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Post by stevescorpio on May 7, 2023 17:04:03 GMT -5
Fightful mentioned that people backstage were incredibly high on Iyo/Bianca, and that they got a standing ovation from everyone in the back over it. I thought it was one of the best matches last night second only to Bunny/Priest. I honestly wouldn't have minded a title change. Bianca's long-ass title reign needs to end.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 17:35:42 GMT -5
Fightful mentioned that people backstage were incredibly high on Iyo/Bianca, and that they got a standing ovation from everyone in the back over it. More than deserved , they busted their ass and Bianca gets the best match in her title reign and IYO reminds everyone just who the f*** she is and why she should IMO be at the top of this division.
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Post by Renslayer on May 7, 2023 17:44:36 GMT -5
Fightful mentioned that people backstage were incredibly high on Iyo/Bianca, and that they got a standing ovation from everyone in the back over it. REAL RECOGNIZE REAL!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 18:03:40 GMT -5
Bianca desperately needs a heel turn. The EST is such a heel gimmick, but somehow positioned as a babyface. I'd agree but I really don't want another dominant heel, lol. That’s an excellent point.
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Post by J is Justice on May 7, 2023 18:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by gl83 on May 7, 2023 18:35:37 GMT -5
All of us right now:
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 7, 2023 19:12:00 GMT -5
They really did a piss poor job with the draft when it came to setting up the women's roster. Especially on Smackdown. They have a babyface champion but the only heels are a trio that she's constantly trounced over the last eight months, a tag team, and a midcarder who nobody buys as a threat. I know Charlotte is going to have to be the big Summerslam match they go to but with her apparently taking time off again I have no clue how they keep Bianca busy until then. I guess a filler feud with Lacey for a month centered around "CAN BIANCA BREAK THE COBRA CLUTCH?" {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}She will And then who knows?
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Post by asuka007 on May 7, 2023 20:26:18 GMT -5
Fightful mentioned that people backstage were incredibly high on Iyo/Bianca, and that they got a standing ovation from everyone in the back over it. Good, now push Iyo.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 20:39:21 GMT -5
I never took notice of the framing here...with Dakota (albeit dead) in between Bayley and IYO. IYO in between Bayley and what Bayley wants while Bayley stands directly behind IYO. I love me some subtle story beats like this because it makes me pay that much more attention.
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Post by gl83 on May 8, 2023 0:11:33 GMT -5
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Post by 4real on May 8, 2023 2:49:09 GMT -5
I think the people just wanted to see a title change. Nothing against Bianca but fans are tiring of long Title reigns and want something different. Gunther is probably the only long reign going that still has legs and even then I thought Sheamus should have beaten him at Mania. Theory feels like he’s held the US title for 7 years he’s that bland.
Great match though probably 2nd best behind Bunny v Priest. Io is an absolute star and hopefully will get a title run at some point.
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Post by Renslayer on May 8, 2023 9:33:55 GMT -5
I just love that iyo and b flipped the dynamic of the match after the opening tie up. That's how you adjust to the crowd on the fly and put on a show!
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 8, 2023 10:20:15 GMT -5
Bianca is the modern Cena and I say that in the best way possible.
She may not be for everybody and the fatigue may grow among certain sections but the reality is that she's an important character for kids (and adults, tbh) to look up to and the brand as a whole benefits from having that super duper mega face that gets at people's heart strings (both for sympathy and vitriol). And that's saying nothing of how she's developed into one of the best big match wrestlers in the country.
So yeah, keep that belt on her and ride the wave as long as you can.
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