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Post by chrom on May 10, 2023 7:44:08 GMT -5
Does anyone do the senton anymore?
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Post by Bo Rida on May 10, 2023 7:51:12 GMT -5
I don't think we've seen an abdominal stretch with grabbing rope for extra leverage in a long time. I feel like I'm going crazy reading this thread because I'm sure I see many of the moves mentioned but can't think of examples. However in this case I think the tag team partner variant has taken over, most commonly by ftr and Chris Brookes teams? Others I'm sure I see fairly frequently but can't quite place. Atomic drops are relatively common within aew and DDT, MJF and ftr in particular. Eye pokes are way too common everywhere but rakes specifically? Neko gets away with it due to being a cat and Eddie Kingston and Mox are always going for eyes so I assume they do rakes. Mox does the rope variant sometimes. Foot choke in corner must be done by long limbed wrestlers, especially women, but again struggling for examples. Bear hugs are rare, can only think of Miu Watanabe . Flying fist is a god one, Lawler made it work but for most it's barely worth the effort and can't think of anyone else using it. Does anyone do the senton anymore? Oh yeah that reminds me Samoa Joe does the atomic drop and Senton in the same sequence.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on May 10, 2023 8:56:23 GMT -5
What I would like to see once is not really a move, but a bit, but you could really only do it once in a while...and maybe only once. I saw this in GWF... the heel went for a pin, and as the ref was counting, the face tapped the heel on the back as if he was the ref. The heel then got up and yelled at the ref "What?" The ref was like "I didn't do anything." They went into another sequence which ended up with the heel going for a pin, and they did the whole bit again. Work smarter, not harder I guess hahaha Yup... Also, kayfabe-wise, I wonder what his plan was supposed to be should the heel not react to the back tap and wait till he heard the 3 count? Was he just gonna lay there and get pinned when he could have easily kicked out? I do think it would have been hilarious for the heel to try that startagy later in the match only for it not to work and for him to get pinned. I feel liek t0eh heel lost anyway, and since he was already made to look like an idiot, that would have been an entertaining way to have him lose.
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Post by CMWaters on May 10, 2023 9:20:17 GMT -5
I don't think we've seen an abdominal stretch with grabbing rope for extra leverage in a long time. I feel like I'm going crazy reading this thread because I'm sure I see many of the moves mentioned but can't think of examples. However in this case I think the tag team partner variant has taken over, most commonly by ftr and Chris Brookes teams? Check out some non jobber squash IRS matches and there's a good chance you'll see it there.
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Post by Citizen Snips on May 10, 2023 11:47:15 GMT -5
Jordynne Grace was using the bearhug for a finisher a few years ago.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 10, 2023 12:06:51 GMT -5
I mean there is a reason but does anyone do a leg drop anymore?
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Post by Jaws the Shark on May 10, 2023 12:19:34 GMT -5
The Johnny Saint Special.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 13:55:19 GMT -5
Like the atomic drop. I can’t even remember when was the most recent match to feature an atomic drop. That is one of those wrestling moves that has just fallen out of style. What others are there? I recently re-watched Summerslam 92 and I can’t believe how many times Vince McMahon called an inverted atomic drop a “reverse piledriver.”
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Post by Mozenrath on May 10, 2023 20:24:13 GMT -5
I feel like I'm going crazy reading this thread because I'm sure I see many of the moves mentioned but can't think of examples. However in this case I think the tag team partner variant has taken over, most commonly by ftr and Chris Brookes teams? Check out some non jobber squash IRS matches and there's a good chance you'll see it there. Triple H in the early 2000s sometimes did it, too, albeit not nearly as often as IRS.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on May 11, 2023 10:50:39 GMT -5
I feel like I'm going crazy reading this thread because I'm sure I see many of the moves mentioned but can't think of examples. Based on at least one thread we're both in, my reaction to this thread keeps being, "Right, most people here aren't watching TJPW or women's wrestling on the indies." Because a lot of women are keeping a lot of old school spots alive. For example: I mean there is a reason but does anyone do a leg drop anymore? Ryo Mizunami and Hyan, just to name two.
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Post by Bo Rida on May 11, 2023 11:49:28 GMT -5
I feel like I'm going crazy reading this thread because I'm sure I see many of the moves mentioned but can't think of examples. Based on at least one thread we're both in, my reaction to this thread keeps being, "Right, most people here aren't watching TJPW or women's wrestling on the indies." Because a lot of women are keeping a lot of old school spots alive. For example: I mean there is a reason but does anyone do a leg drop anymore? Ryo Mizunami and Hyan, just to name two. Yes just what I was thinking, makes sense, most of those moves mentioned are classic 90s WWF moves and tjpw is the promotion closest to that style. Of course most don't watch tjpw but even televised wrestling like aew people seem to forget seeing moves like the atomic drop, I suppose they're in the sweept spot where they're generic enough that they don't register but without being ubiquitous like cutters and superkicks. It's interesting what does and doesn't stick in people's minds. My personal example is Jungle Boy, a wrestler I like and watch often but can't recall most of his move-set (Snaretrap, poisonrana...er...).
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on May 11, 2023 12:24:23 GMT -5
It's interesting what does and doesn't stick in people's minds. My personal example is Jungle Boy, a wrestler I like and watch often but can't recall most of his move-set (Snaretrap, poisonrana...er...). I actually think that's part of Jungle Boy's deal. He reminds me of Ricky Steamboat, where it's less about him having an array of memorable or impressive moves, and more him having a distinct style as an agile underdog.
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Post by Zombie Mod on May 11, 2023 12:44:11 GMT -5
I mean there is a reason but does anyone do a leg drop anymore? it turns you day glow orange?
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Post by 67 more on May 11, 2023 13:35:13 GMT -5
Like the atomic drop. I can’t even remember when was the most recent match to feature an atomic drop. That is one of those wrestling moves that has just fallen out of style. What others are there? I recently re-watched Summerslam 92 and I can’t believe how many times Vince McMahon called an inverted atomic drop a “reverse piledriver.” The atomic drop was once actually called a piledriver way, way, way ago until it became the name for the head drop move.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 11, 2023 14:23:51 GMT -5
Which I don’t agree with at all. Sure some heels should be credible, there’s no need for Brock to be randomly cheating of course, but a guy like the Miz shouldn’t be going toe to toe with most anyone. Dude should be cheating worse than Honky and building heat that way. Heels that cheat their asses off is one of the things that modern wrestling has gotten away from and I think it’s still a viable method for people to get heat. I feel like Jeff Jarrett is one of the last guys that still does small subtle heel things that get heat. And it works! A natural heel that the people hate anyway like Sammy Guevara could save a ton of wear and tear on his body by doing small subtle things like an eye-rake or choking a guy on the ropes while the ref is distracted. I was watching the Jarrett match with Orange Cassidy, and I think I counted four actual moves by Jeff He is ENTIRELY heat spots these days. And the thing is? It's GENIUS. I was gripped And you know that can be done badly because the Effy match SUCKED
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Post by SkullTrauma on May 11, 2023 19:08:54 GMT -5
that thing where you set them up in a standing headscissor like you're gonna go for a piledriver, but then just do a little hop and jostle their neck. does anyone know wtf this thing is called?
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on May 11, 2023 19:12:34 GMT -5
I was watching the Jarrett match with Orange Cassidy, and I think I counted four actual moves by Jeff He is ENTIRELY heat spots these days. And the thing is? It's GENIUS. I was gripped And you know that can be done badly because the Effy match SUCKED I'm generally of the impression that this kind of working smarter not harder is, itself, really friggin' hard, or at least, has a prohibitively high skill/charisma requirement. If everyone could do what Jeff Jarrett, Minoru Suzuki, Max the Impaler, etc. (just to stick to wrestlers going right now) could do, a whole lot more wrestlers would be doing it.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on May 12, 2023 17:13:47 GMT -5
that thing where you set them up in a standing headscissor like you're gonna go for a piledriver, but then just do a little hop and jostle their neck. I'd see JYD do that on TV, then I'd do that to my brother outside. That was an ear-ringer, because bro said that hurt! He'd rather take a Scorpion Deathlock or an Oklahoma Stampede than get the jumping ear ringer! Speaking of ears, nobody do the ear clap anymore? Or the eye rake along the ropes? (Think I saw Mox do the latter a couple of times.) that thing where you set them up in a standing headscissor like you're gonna go for a piledriver, but then just do a little hop and jostle their neck. does anyone know wtf this thing is called? Monsoon would always say "Dog ringing the ears!" So I'm guessing ear ringer, like I said.
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Post by XIII on May 12, 2023 17:32:02 GMT -5
I was watching the Jarrett match with Orange Cassidy, and I think I counted four actual moves by Jeff He is ENTIRELY heat spots these days. And the thing is? It's GENIUS. I was gripped And you know that can be done badly because the Effy match SUCKED I'm generally of the impression that this kind of working smarter not harder is, itself, really friggin' hard, or at least, has a prohibitively high skill/charisma requirement. If everyone could do what Jeff Jarrett, Minoru Suzuki, Max the Impaler, etc. (just to stick to wrestlers going right now) could do, a whole lot more wrestlers would be doing it. Double J GREATLY benefits from having come up in the Memphis area and learning how to get heat like that almost from day one in the business. JJ is a lot of things but he’s definitely a master at building heat while doing as little as possible.
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Post by lemonyellowson on May 16, 2023 15:59:46 GMT -5
Shaking the rope to Bounce someone on their balls on the top rope
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