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Post by mistery on Jul 31, 2023 22:39:42 GMT -5
For some reason, I forgot about IYO. Yeah. It seems like at least one person is going to fail their cash in this year, and I feel like it's gotta be Priest after tonight. Iyo losing would completely destroy her momentum, where with Priest it wouldn't really harm him all that much, and they can pivot it into a storyline. Where with Iyo, they can't really do that right now, as Bayley is busy with Shotzi (that Bayley is probably going to lose for god knows what reason), and I don't think it would be a good idea for Iyo to just straight up lose a cash in either, if there were no shenanigans involved that could set her up with a major feud.
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Post by asuka007 on Jul 31, 2023 22:41:25 GMT -5
Looking forward to Logan Paul versus Ricochet and Drew versus Gunther the most. Ronda versus Shayna... uh, I'm intrigued, lol. Charlotte and Roman are 100% winning, so not a lot of interest in their matches. The Cody and Seth matches I've already seen. Eh. I wouldn't be sure of Charlotte winning. It's pretty clear she's missed a step since her return, and this Bianca/Charlotte angle going on is absolutely ice cold. I feel like Charlotte/Bianca will likely be a non-title feud at the end of the day. Charlotte and Bianca will try and one up each other in the Summerslam match, just for Asuka to capitalize and steal the victory. Also unless Shotzi interferes and costs Iyo the case (which would backfire on WWE massively as people are absolutely cold on Shotzi, whose ceiling is jobber), I doubt any of the women in the triple threat are walking out as champion. I feel like after RAW tonight, Priest is the more likely of the two case holders to fail their cash in. There's also the fact that Charlotte never holds the title for long anyways, so even if she does win, she's likely catching a beatdown from Asuka or Bianca post match, with an Iyo cash in to take the title off of her immediately. Remember when people were excited that it was looking like we’d get four women’s match on this show. Yeah about that. Two is still better than one (which is the standard for AEW), hope that helps. Also its pretty clear that Raquel is just a filler challenger for Rhea anyways, so they'll blow that off on a B-Tier PPV. And Ronda is supposedly gone again after Summerslam, so there's that as well. I also wouldn't be shocked if in the case of Becky/Trish, they are doing it in Canada since Trish seems to like having her "final" matches there before leaving again. Your women’s champion, one of the most popular stars you have man or women, is not going to have a match on the second biggest show of the year? I’d say, Cody spent four months feuding with a returning legend, you can be sure it 100% would be on this card. Triple H has been terrible with the women.
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Post by mistery on Jul 31, 2023 22:44:09 GMT -5
Eh. I wouldn't be sure of Charlotte winning. It's pretty clear she's missed a step since her return, and this Bianca/Charlotte angle going on is absolutely ice cold. I feel like Charlotte/Bianca will likely be a non-title feud at the end of the day. Charlotte and Bianca will try and one up each other in the Summerslam match, just for Asuka to capitalize and steal the victory. Also unless Shotzi interferes and costs Iyo the case (which would backfire on WWE massively as people are absolutely cold on Shotzi, whose ceiling is jobber), I doubt any of the women in the triple threat are walking out as champion. I feel like after RAW tonight, Priest is the more likely of the two case holders to fail their cash in. There's also the fact that Charlotte never holds the title for long anyways, so even if she does win, she's likely catching a beatdown from Asuka or Bianca post match, with an Iyo cash in to take the title off of her immediately. Two is still better than one (which is the standard for AEW), hope that helps. Also its pretty clear that Raquel is just a filler challenger for Rhea anyways, so they'll blow that off on a B-Tier PPV. And Ronda is supposedly gone again after Summerslam, so there's that as well. I also wouldn't be shocked if in the case of Becky/Trish, they are doing it in Canada since Trish seems to like having her "final" matches there before leaving again. Your women’s champion, one of the most popular stars you have man or women, is not going to have a match on the second biggest show of the year? I’d say, Cody spent four months feuding with a returning legend, you can be sure it 100% would be on this card. Triple H has been terrible with the women. Rhea vs Raquel has like negative levels of interest among the fanbase, I'm sorry. Raquel is just horribly uninteresting as a performer and it shows most weeks. If you want to blame anyone, blame WWE for being too afraid to make Rhea look vulnerable at all. Also if Trish wants her final match to be in Canada like the speculation currently is, WWE is going to respect that. Also in regards to the Rhea/Raquel stuff, they had a dark match on Smackdown last Friday and it was really short and REALLY not good. Raquel was struggling with all her "power" spots and Rhea was pretty visibly frustrated.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jul 31, 2023 23:02:58 GMT -5
I'm more surprised about Trish vs. Becky not being on the card than Rhea vs Raquel which probably wouldn't have been good or over much with the crowd. It seemed like Trish's whole long comeback was about getting this match at SummerSlam.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 31, 2023 23:07:28 GMT -5
Based on RAW tonight, they're advertising a quadruple main event with Cody/Brock, Asuka/Charlotte/Bianca, Roman/Jey, and Seth/Finn all being referred to as main event matches.
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Post by mistery on Jul 31, 2023 23:08:11 GMT -5
I'm more surprised about Trish vs. Becky not being on the card than Rhea vs Raquel which probably wouldn't have been good or over much with the crowd. It seemed like Trish's whole long comeback was about getting this match at SummerSlam. I also wouldn't be shocked if the match was moved to RAW because there are a handful of matches that are likely going to run pretty long. Gunther/McIntyre will be long, Roman/Jey will definitely be long (if just for Roman's entrance alone), Finn/Seth will likely be the longest match of the card, and the battle royale will likely run a decent length of time as well. The women's triple threat match is a bit of a wildcard, in that while on its own I don't expect it to be very long, I do think that Iyo may cash in, extending the segment even longer. There's also apparently a Greyson Waller segment planned as well. And I guarantee you if they cut the battle royal, the same people complaining about Becky would turn around and complain about LA Knight not being on the card.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Aug 1, 2023 2:34:05 GMT -5
I assume Rhea is going to be heavily involved in the Balor/Rollins match (which doesn't bode well for Seth) and they don't want her to be overexposed on the show by appearing twice. If Rhea takes a bump you could have Iyo tease a cash-in but I doubt anything will happen as I expect Rhea to have the title until the Rumble if not a full 12 months with it.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 1, 2023 8:40:15 GMT -5
I’m bummed I won’t get to see Trish/Becky live. Detroit’s practically in Canada, surely that should count!
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Post by 06vwgti on Aug 1, 2023 9:38:18 GMT -5
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 1, 2023 9:38:29 GMT -5
It is weird that Becky vs. Trish isn't on the SummerSlam card since Becky's been advertised for the event in the commercial.
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Post by asuka007 on Aug 1, 2023 10:20:34 GMT -5
I'm more surprised about Trish vs. Becky not being on the card than Rhea vs Raquel which probably wouldn't have been good or over much with the crowd. It seemed like Trish's whole long comeback was about getting this match at SummerSlam. I also wouldn't be shocked if the match was moved to RAW because there are a handful of matches that are likely going to run pretty long. Gunther/McIntyre will be long, Roman/Jey will definitely be long (if just for Roman's entrance alone), Finn/Seth will likely be the longest match of the card, and the battle royale will likely run a decent length of time as well. The women's triple threat match is a bit of a wildcard, in that while on its own I don't expect it to be very long, I do think that Iyo may cash in, extending the segment even longer. There's also apparently a Greyson Waller segment planned as well. And I guarantee you if they cut the battle royal, the same people complaining about Becky would turn around and complain about LA Knight not being on the card. Not really. Let’s be honest most fans just want to hear LA Knight talk. Giving him a cool promo segment would have been enough. It’s kind of a damming indictment of the booking if your champion and one of your most over talents cannot wrestle on the second biggest show off the year because “she has no viable opponent.” There’s a lot of talent on that roster, HHH and co just put ZERO effort into most of them. Also he has a bad habit of pulling Becky off of big shows as well. He’s done it or tried to do it multiple times now. If she was annoyed she’s have every right to be.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 1, 2023 10:26:47 GMT -5
God bless Heyman, Stephen a and the Tribal chief
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Post by mistery on Aug 1, 2023 10:37:51 GMT -5
I also wouldn't be shocked if the match was moved to RAW because there are a handful of matches that are likely going to run pretty long. Gunther/McIntyre will be long, Roman/Jey will definitely be long (if just for Roman's entrance alone), Finn/Seth will likely be the longest match of the card, and the battle royale will likely run a decent length of time as well. The women's triple threat match is a bit of a wildcard, in that while on its own I don't expect it to be very long, I do think that Iyo may cash in, extending the segment even longer. There's also apparently a Greyson Waller segment planned as well. And I guarantee you if they cut the battle royal, the same people complaining about Becky would turn around and complain about LA Knight not being on the card. Not really. Let’s be honest most fans just want to hear LA Knight talk. Giving him a cool promo segment would have been enough. It’s kind of a damming indictment of the booking if your champion and one of your most over talents cannot wrestle on the second biggest show off the year because “she has no viable opponent.” There’s a lot of talent on that roster, HHH and co just put ZERO effort into most of them. Also he has a bad habit of pulling Becky off of big shows as well. He’s done it or tried to do it multiple times now. If she was annoyed she’s have every right to be. Again, the lack of credible challengers for Rhea isn't entirely WWE's fault. Part of the problem is that WWE still thinks Raquel will get over from this feud with Rhea when she won't. And the rest of women on RAW (sans Becky) are either injured or have negative levels of credibility (and that's not entirely on WWE as a lot of women on RAW aren't interesting). Not counting Becky, you would be hard pressed to find a woman on RAW who is credible enough to take down Rhea. And that's because the division is composed almost entirely of enhancement talent, and part of that isn't on booking either, as a lot of the women are not great, or would be a really bad choice for a Big 4 (5?) PPV. I would also like to add on that at no time was WWE ever considering "four women's matches" for the card. The internet took that bit of speculation and ran with it as if it was absolutely happening. And no, I don't think it was ever in the cards. Smackdown has the much deeper division, with Damage CTRL + Asuka, Charlotte, and Bianca. Does it suck that Becky isn't on the card? Yeah. But is it the end of the world? No. You don't see me complaining about Iyo not being on the card despite her being my favorite. Even if she doesn't cash in, I'm not really going to get mad about it. To add onto this, Rhea not being on the card isn't the end of the world, because its blatantly obvious to anyone with more than two braincells that Rhea isn't losing the title until Wrestlemania 2024 at the earliest. So WWE likely isn't bothering to give her someone to face at Summerslam because it's blatantly obvious she's going to retain.
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Post by BlahBlah on Aug 1, 2023 11:51:01 GMT -5
I also wouldn't be shocked if the match was moved to RAW because there are a handful of matches that are likely going to run pretty long. Gunther/McIntyre will be long, Roman/Jey will definitely be long (if just for Roman's entrance alone), Finn/Seth will likely be the longest match of the card, and the battle royale will likely run a decent length of time as well. The women's triple threat match is a bit of a wildcard, in that while on its own I don't expect it to be very long, I do think that Iyo may cash in, extending the segment even longer. There's also apparently a Greyson Waller segment planned as well. And I guarantee you if they cut the battle royal, the same people complaining about Becky would turn around and complain about LA Knight not being on the card. Not really. Let’s be honest most fans just want to hear LA Knight talk. Giving him a cool promo segment would have been enough. It’s kind of a damming indictment of the booking if your champion and one of your most over talents cannot wrestle on the second biggest show off the year because “she has no viable opponent.” There’s a lot of talent on that roster, HHH and co just put ZERO effort into most of them. Also he has a bad habit of pulling Becky off of big shows as well. He’s done it or tried to do it multiple times now. If she was annoyed she’s have every right to be. Lynch is for sure one of their most over talents but this feud with Trish isn't over at all. No need to force it when they can blow it off in Canada anyhow. With Rhea I get that she isn't wrestling but she's pretty much the most featured talent across all of their shows now and she'll be at Summerslam (likely involved).
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Post by theironyuppie on Aug 1, 2023 12:07:37 GMT -5
Not really. Let’s be honest most fans just want to hear LA Knight talk. Giving him a cool promo segment would have been enough. It’s kind of a damming indictment of the booking if your champion and one of your most over talents cannot wrestle on the second biggest show off the year because “she has no viable opponent.” There’s a lot of talent on that roster, HHH and co just put ZERO effort into most of them. Also he has a bad habit of pulling Becky off of big shows as well. He’s done it or tried to do it multiple times now. If she was annoyed she’s have every right to be. Again, the lack of credible challengers for Rhea isn't entirely WWE's fault. Part of the problem is that WWE still thinks Raquel will get over from this feud with Rhea when she won't. And the rest of women on RAW (sans Becky) are either injured or have negative levels of credibility (and that's not entirely on WWE as a lot of women on RAW aren't interesting). Not counting Becky, you would be hard pressed to find a woman on RAW who is credible enough to take down Rhea. And that's because the division is composed almost entirely of enhancement talent, and part of that isn't on booking either, as a lot of the women are not great, or would be a really bad choice for a Big 4 (5?) PPV. I would also like to add on that at no time was WWE ever considering "four women's matches" for the card. The internet took that bit of speculation and ran with it as if it was absolutely happening. And no, I don't think it was ever in the cards. Smackdown has the much deeper division, with Damage CTRL + Asuka, Charlotte, and Bianca. Does it suck that Becky isn't on the card? Yeah. But is it the end of the world? No. You don't see me complaining about Iyo not being on the card despite her being my favorite. Even if she doesn't cash in, I'm not really going to get mad about it. To add onto this, Rhea not being on the card isn't the end of the world, because its blatantly obvious to anyone with more than two braincells that Rhea isn't losing the title until Wrestlemania 2024 at the earliest. So WWE likely isn't bothering to give her someone to face at Summerslam because it's blatantly obvious she's going to retain.
To be fair, the crowd was into Raquel last night, even after they'd already given Rhea loud MAMI chants. So it's too soon to just assume the feud's going to do nothing for her. And the interesting thing with SD is that Asuka is basically being treated as a third wheel in the title feud, getting minimal airtime while the focus is on Bianca/Charlotte.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 1, 2023 12:15:07 GMT -5
Apart from Cody/Brock 3 and Jey/Roman match, I can't say I'm looking forward to the show that much.
Surprised that Becky vs. Trish is not on the show as it was one of the big feuds on Raw the last few months.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Aug 1, 2023 12:19:54 GMT -5
Ugh out of all the people from Michigan And just like that, my interest in SummerSlam is gone.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 1, 2023 12:58:05 GMT -5
Ugh out of all the people from Michigan And just like that, my interest in SummerSlam is gone. Because he’s in the cold open? No mid-show concert at least!
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Post by mistery on Aug 1, 2023 13:31:05 GMT -5
Again, the lack of credible challengers for Rhea isn't entirely WWE's fault. Part of the problem is that WWE still thinks Raquel will get over from this feud with Rhea when she won't. And the rest of women on RAW (sans Becky) are either injured or have negative levels of credibility (and that's not entirely on WWE as a lot of women on RAW aren't interesting). Not counting Becky, you would be hard pressed to find a woman on RAW who is credible enough to take down Rhea. And that's because the division is composed almost entirely of enhancement talent, and part of that isn't on booking either, as a lot of the women are not great, or would be a really bad choice for a Big 4 (5?) PPV. I would also like to add on that at no time was WWE ever considering "four women's matches" for the card. The internet took that bit of speculation and ran with it as if it was absolutely happening. And no, I don't think it was ever in the cards. Smackdown has the much deeper division, with Damage CTRL + Asuka, Charlotte, and Bianca. Does it suck that Becky isn't on the card? Yeah. But is it the end of the world? No. You don't see me complaining about Iyo not being on the card despite her being my favorite. Even if she doesn't cash in, I'm not really going to get mad about it. To add onto this, Rhea not being on the card isn't the end of the world, because its blatantly obvious to anyone with more than two braincells that Rhea isn't losing the title until Wrestlemania 2024 at the earliest. So WWE likely isn't bothering to give her someone to face at Summerslam because it's blatantly obvious she's going to retain.
To be fair, the crowd was into Raquel last night, even after they'd already given Rhea loud MAMI chants. So it's too soon to just assume the feud's going to do nothing for her. And the interesting thing with SD is that Asuka is basically being treated as a third wheel in the title feud, getting minimal airtime while the focus is on Bianca/Charlotte.
I feel like the Asuka third wheel thing is more a storytelling device rather than being overlooked. Its pretty clear both Charlotte and Bianca are overlooking her, which is why I feel like Asuka is going to retain. Especially with Asuka already starting to set up a feud with Iyo.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 1, 2023 13:35:23 GMT -5
WWE streamlines their PPVs more than ever now, so I can definitely see why there’s no Rhea-Raquel match. I do disagree with keeping Becky-Trish off the card, though.
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