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Post by The Ichi on Aug 9, 2023 22:29:12 GMT -5
6/10. Remember when Tony said he wasn’t going to feature ROH on AEW programming? Are we really considering a match announcement as featuring ROH. 🤔
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2023 22:37:33 GMT -5
It's a coffin match, he can lose if need be Trying to murder someone who could still be considered a teen should probably have Swerve and Fox lose the gimmick match where they won't get pinned. Either way it'll be a fantastic match and they're getting a Wembley spot, something AR Fox especially has earned. Either way they won't be "jobbing" Either way, Sting needs to lose one for once. I think he will but I don't know if I see him losing a gimmick match, he should take a visible pinfall
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2023 22:41:06 GMT -5
6/10. Remember when Tony said he wasn’t going to feature ROH on AEW programming? This is reaching super hard, it's a match featuring the hottest act in AEW and one of the best tag teams in the world, and giving people a must see Zero Hour match With the AEW Tag Titles hung up in FTR/Bucks this is a way to get the most over act on the card two times over in a creative way, and it ensures two likely great matches in the process as well And Tony never said ROH was just going to disappear completely off of AEW programming, but you can't act like it's dominated the show since the weekly show started either, nor has it been a detriment to the product.
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 9, 2023 22:56:11 GMT -5
6/10. Remember when Tony said he wasn’t going to feature ROH on AEW programming? Are we really considering a match announcement as featuring ROH. 🤔 The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 9, 2023 23:03:24 GMT -5
Are we really considering a match announcement as featuring ROH. 🤔 The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming. Claudio is signed to AEW and a member of the BCC. I would hope he's featured, yes. The Kingdom were on screen for about 10 seconds. MJF didn't care about winning the ROH tag belts, Cole did. I assume if he's the one that will turn heel that it's a ploy to soften up MJF for their match.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2023 23:07:37 GMT -5
Are we really considering a match announcement as featuring ROH. 🤔 The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming. Claudio is signed AEW talent, The Kingdom have a history with Cole and have been on AEW Dynamite less than a minute total so far, and MJF is doing this for Cole because he cares about Cole We get it, you hate Ring of Honor and wish it was dead, but it's not hurting the show whatsoever and they're using it sparingly and where it actually matters to use it, for talents who grew with that brand like Cole did for a decade
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 9, 2023 23:18:57 GMT -5
I thought Cole's promo did a good job establishing why these titles in particular means a lot to him. It's not just going for another set of tag titles. It's completing an accomplishment he's worked towards his whole career and he gets to do it with his best friend.
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Aug 9, 2023 23:19:10 GMT -5
The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming. Claudio is signed AEW talent, The Kingdom have a history with Cole and have been on AEW Dynamite less than a minute total so far, and MJF is doing this for Cole because he cares about Cole We get it, you hate Ring of Honor and wish it was dead, but it's not hurting the show whatsoever and they're using it sparingly and where it actually matters to use it, for talents who grew with that brand like Cole did for a decade Its hurting the show for me. And they’re using it in their biggest angle.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 9, 2023 23:21:01 GMT -5
Claudio is signed AEW talent, The Kingdom have a history with Cole and have been on AEW Dynamite less than a minute total so far, and MJF is doing this for Cole because he cares about Cole We get it, you hate Ring of Honor and wish it was dead, but it's not hurting the show whatsoever and they're using it sparingly and where it actually matters to use it, for talents who grew with that brand like Cole did for a decade Its hurting the show for me. And they’re using it in their biggest angle. This gives MJF/Cole a tag title match on the show against one of the better tag teams in the world, if you didn't have the ROH Tag Belts involved would it be hurting the show for you or is it just because they specifically have the ROH tag belts involved as them to try and get a prize as a team? Because that's enhancing the storyline and giving Cole a reason to go for them because he's never won those belts and he has a long history in ROH Which ties into The Kingdom, like even if ROH didn't exist, that history is still there.
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Post by deezy on Aug 9, 2023 23:21:43 GMT -5
Went with a 5. Decent show. Loved Sting punking out Swerve.
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 10, 2023 0:20:54 GMT -5
Are we really considering a match announcement as featuring ROH. 🤔 The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming. MJF does not care about them, he cares about Cole and Cole cares about them. Also ROH has a lot of high level talent (whether the Kingdom are one of those examples is debatable) so complaining about Claudio on TV is weird.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 10, 2023 0:37:26 GMT -5
The ROH world Champion is constantly featured. The Kingdom was on my screen far too long. An irrelevant brand. It is below MJF to care about meaningless tag titles. There’s already too many championships on AEW programming. MJF does not care about them, he cares about Cole and Cole cares about them. Also ROH has a lot of high level talent (whether the Kingdom are one of those examples is debatable) so complaining about Claudio on TV is weird. Kingdom are good talent that work with just about anyone, I'd say they'll do fine in this role Taven was overexposed as shit but he's much better in a tag team with Bennett.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Aug 10, 2023 4:07:33 GMT -5
I really don't need to see The Hardy's wrestle anymore. Just go full Broken again, and do cinematic stuff. There's more to offer there.
RVD vs. Jack Perry was much better than I expected.
Not a fan of the ROH Tag Title announcement, it just seems unnecessary to the story, but we'll see what happens. And truth be told I am starting to get over-saturated with the Cole/MJF stuff. I get they're stupid popular and move a lot of merch, but if they dialed it back a bit I wouldn't mind.
BCC vs. Lucha Bros. was about everything I wanted it to be. I hope we get BCC vs House of Black at All In. No real reason for it to happen other than I want it and BCC have a solid claim to wanting to challenge for the Trios titles.
Swerve gets a spotlight feud, and a match at All In?! SUPER happy about that. I hope he's allowed to continue to be supervillain evil in the build.
Main event was alright, ending was weird.
6/10
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Post by chronocross on Aug 10, 2023 4:55:58 GMT -5
I thought it was okay, 6/10.
Enjoyed the MJF/Cole segment and the RVD/Jack Perry match but that's about it.
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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 7:18:05 GMT -5
6/10. Remember when Tony said he wasn’t going to feature ROH on AEW programming? Why do people care about this? All the guys involved in the match in question, the only ROH related thing of the night, are signed to AEW and are all fantastic, it's just a storyline tool and one that makes sense especially given in MJF and Cole's first segment together Max talked about discovering Cole in ROH. If they were still bringing in ROH commentators and introducing it as if it's the ROH part of the show coming on now I'd see the issue more, but just including another company's belts in matches is something they've done from the very get go, whether that's titles from AAA, NWA, Impact or wherever. I'd go 8, a step down from last week but thoroughly enjoyed both Bucks/Hardyz and RVD/Jack Perry despite concerns beforehand about the older guys in those matches, thought the opening JAS promo was good and even those weaker on the mic more than held their own, both MJF/Cole segments were outstanding, the dodgeball spot was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in wrestling I think, BCC/Lucha Bros was excellent and everything else was decent to good.
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Post by clifford on Aug 10, 2023 14:46:49 GMT -5
Little light on in ring action this week (though RVD/Perry exceeded my expectations) but that's understandable with all the huge events around the corner; you've got to both save your stars from doing too much so close to these shows, and also properly set up these shows.
7/10
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Post by schizo on Aug 10, 2023 14:52:36 GMT -5
About a 8
entertaining show imo, like alot of the stories here and some good/great matches
The booking of the woman’s division continues to be a HUGE problem though. Tony Khan: “the Woman get the main event OK!? so the rest of the show, we don’t have to give them any promo time, no extra match, no backstage segment, no other woman’s featured, are you happy fans we’re booking the woman’s better! Now stop bugging me!! Where’s my Booker of the year award!”
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