Bayley the hugger returns

[salz4life]

Aug 11, 2023 8:04:11 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

OK who else just crumbled to dust from old age?

Yeah... Sasha making Izzy cry in Brooklyn (I think that's where it was) is still so fresh in my mind even though it was awhile ago.

[Totorob101]

I have a feeling she's going to make an incredible heel like Bayley has.
The hugger gimmick is horrible and people won't tolerate it at all now, one could argue Bayley struggled on the main roster with that gimmick until she had the heel turn everyone craved and people love her now more then they ever did as the hugger. There is something about Izzy which screams heel and I hope she goes that route as she will have far more success at the start of her career being one.

[asuka007]

I feel bad for her.

She cannot do one thing without most of the talk being about her parents (who she has no control over).

[clc]

Aug 11, 2023 8:13:53 GMT -5 salz4life said:

Aug 11, 2023 8:04:11 GMT -5 Alice Syndrome said:

OK who else just crumbled to dust from old age?

Yeah... Sasha making Izzy cry in Brooklyn (I think that's where it was) is still so fresh in my mind even though it was awhile ago.

Sasha, brah! making kids cry brah!

I hope Izzy get to wrestle Bayley one day.

[ben:friendship frog]

Good on her for having a dream and chasing it.

If she's any good, the eventual Izzy vs Bayley Wrestlemania match will be amazing.

Not before she's gone to New Japan to sort out Sasha Banks though!

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

On one hand, yeah, I feel old as shit, but on the other, I'm just glad she's not like 22 or something. That'd make me feel worse.

Best of luck to her, lots of folks started young and are doing alright. I just hope she's got the right guidance around her aside from her parents.

[tenshi]

She could wear a mask and go by "La Hija del Hugger"...

[Sephiroth]

Aug 10, 2023 17:39:54 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Honestly? I think it's a good time to consider having Bayley go back to this character.

Since she turned heel, I’ve had a fantasy booking promo in mind: Bayley reunited with her old protege, who calls her out for all the people she’s hurt, all the fans who’s hearts she broke, but that in spite of it all “I still think you’re the best…I still love you!” A tearful Bayley embraces her super fan to the applause if the crowd go fully turn face once again.

And in all seriousness, I don’t think there is any going back to her old character where she was portrayed as innocent and naive. But a face turn is due, she’s great as a heel but the formula needs some freshening up. And just imagine the crowd pop for her making entrance with the tube men again.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

I'm waiting for Hayley the Bugger to show up somewhere.

[mrtuesday]

Aug 11, 2023 10:20:08 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

Good on her for having a dream and chasing it.

If she's any good, the eventual Izzy vs Bayley Wrestlemania match will be amazing.

Not before she's gone to New Japan to sort out Sasha Banks though!

Izzy vs. Mercedes, Wrestle Kingdom 25.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Debuting at 16, cool, following her dream, amazing.

Just hope, as bad as her parents have been in the past, they protect her going forward. Can't say I'm not a bit worried this ends badly one way or another but hopefully, that's just cynicism.

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Aug 11, 2023 13:13:25 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Aug 10, 2023 17:39:54 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Honestly? I think it's a good time to consider having Bayley go back to this character.

Since she turned heel, I’ve had a fantasy booking promo in mind: Bayley reunited with her old protege, who calls her out for all the people she’s hurt, all the fans who’s hearts she broke, but that in spite of it all “I still think you’re the best…I still love you!” A tearful Bayley embraces her super fan to the applause if the crowd go fully turn face once again.

And in all seriousness, I don’t think there is any going back to her old character where she was portrayed as innocent and naive. But a face turn is due, she’s great as a heel but the formula needs some freshening up. And just imagine the crowd pop for her making entrance with the tube men again.

Going back to her old character would be a massive misstep.... that Bayley was lovable, but was the living embodiment of everything I hate in modern babyface booking where she was booked to be dumb. 

It would be absolutely refreshing for wrestler characterization if a heel who was once beloved (like Bayley) went through a period of darkness, redeemed themselves (and I mean really redeemed themselves, not "Well, they attacked a heel this week, so they must be a face again!") and found the good within themselves again, just maybe not their innocence. 

[Push R Truth]

Izzy and Angry Miz Girl need to be Tag Champs

[zrowsdower]

Sorry, not familiar with her parents, but what have they done?

[schma]

Aug 11, 2023 8:31:01 GMT -5 Totorob101 said:

I have a feeling she's going to make an incredible heel like Bayley has.
The hugger gimmick is horrible and people won't tolerate it at all now, one could argue Bayley struggled on the main roster with that gimmick until she had the heel turn everyone craved and people love her now more then they ever did as the hugger. There is something about Izzy which screams heel and I hope she goes that route as she will have far more success at the start of her career being one.

To be fair, the main roster version of her hugger gimmick was over simplified and infantilized compared to NXT. NXT Hugger Bayley wouldn't have hesitated to use the kendo stick on Alexa for instance. It was the main roster basically writing her as a child/fan who was too innocent for this world that kinda sunk it.

[asuka007]

Aug 11, 2023 8:31:01 GMT -5 Totorob101 said:

I have a feeling she's going to make an incredible heel like Bayley has.
The hugger gimmick is horrible and people won't tolerate it at all now, one could argue Bayley struggled on the main roster with that gimmick until she had the heel turn everyone craved and people love her now more then they ever did as the hugger. There is something about Izzy which screams heel and I hope she goes that route as she will have far more success at the start of her career being one.

Funny thing is that Izzy was playing a heel on the indies. Well cutting heelish promos at least.

Bully Ray was even complimenting her and giving her pointers.

[Feyrhausen]

Aug 12, 2023 0:11:38 GMT -5 schma said:

Aug 11, 2023 8:31:01 GMT -5 Totorob101 said:

I have a feeling she's going to make an incredible heel like Bayley has.
The hugger gimmick is horrible and people won't tolerate it at all now, one could argue Bayley struggled on the main roster with that gimmick until she had the heel turn everyone craved and people love her now more then they ever did as the hugger. There is something about Izzy which screams heel and I hope she goes that route as she will have far more success at the start of her career being one.

To be fair, the main roster version of her hugger gimmick was over simplified and infantilized compared to NXT. NXT Hugger Bayley wouldn't have hesitated to use the kendo stick on Alexa for instance. It was the main roster basically writing her as a child/fan who was too innocent for this world that kinda sunk it.

It was like when they had the Juniors division. Oh they are small so they must act like children. And have balloons around their logo.

[Sephiroth]

Aug 11, 2023 17:10:50 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

Aug 11, 2023 13:13:25 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Since she turned heel, I’ve had a fantasy booking promo in mind: Bayley reunited with her old protege, who calls her out for all the people she’s hurt, all the fans who’s hearts she broke, but that in spite of it all “I still think you’re the best…I still love you!” A tearful Bayley embraces her super fan to the applause if the crowd go fully turn face once again.

And in all seriousness, I don’t think there is any going back to her old character where she was portrayed as innocent and naive. But a face turn is due, she’s great as a heel but the formula needs some freshening up. And just imagine the crowd pop for her making entrance with the tube men again.

Going back to her old character would be a massive misstep.... that Bayley was lovable, but was the living embodiment of everything I hate in modern babyface booking where she was booked to be dumb. 

It would be absolutely refreshing for wrestler characterization if a heel who was once beloved (like Bayley) went through a period of darkness, redeemed themselves (and I mean really redeemed themselves, not "Well, they attacked a heel this week, so they must be a face again!") and found the good within themselves again, just maybe not their innocence. 

Aka the Anakin Skywalker. Which is why Izzy, as her Ahsoka, still trying to find the good in her, writes itself.

[mrtuesday]

Aug 12, 2023 6:35:29 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Aug 11, 2023 17:10:50 GMT -5 @thelongandtheshort said:

Going back to her old character would be a massive misstep.... that Bayley was lovable, but was the living embodiment of everything I hate in modern babyface booking where she was booked to be dumb. 

It would be absolutely refreshing for wrestler characterization if a heel who was once beloved (like Bayley) went through a period of darkness, redeemed themselves (and I mean really redeemed themselves, not "Well, they attacked a heel this week, so they must be a face again!") and found the good within themselves again, just maybe not their innocence. 

Aka the Anakin Skywalker. Which is why Izzy, as her Ahsoka, still trying to find the good in her, writes itself.

Izzy: I was beginning to think I knew who you were back then.

Bayley: The old Bayley was weak. I destroyed her.

Izzy: Then I will avenge her death.

Bayley: Revenge is not the hugger way.

Izzy: I am no hugger.

[Sephiroth]

Aug 12, 2023 4:35:46 GMT -5 Feyrhausen said:

Aug 12, 2023 0:11:38 GMT -5 schma said:

To be fair, the main roster version of her hugger gimmick was over simplified and infantilized compared to NXT. NXT Hugger Bayley wouldn't have hesitated to use the kendo stick on Alexa for instance. It was the main roster basically writing her as a child/fan who was too innocent for this world that kinda sunk it.

It was like when they had the Juniors division. Oh they are small so they must act like children. And have balloons around their logo.

Hornswoggle as Vince’s illegitimate son. Never mind that he has a beard on his face snd tattoos on his arms, he’s small and most therefore be childlike. And we’ll have him to rather non-childish stuff like spying on women in the shower, but he’s small so it’s all in good fun.