thecrusherwi
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Post by thecrusherwi on Aug 29, 2023 10:15:03 GMT -5
I used to firmly be in the “Do the job” camp. But I’m getting a little older and now the people retiring are people I grew up with from their debut to retirement. So maybe I’m becoming a softy, but let them go out on a win. It’s fake and outside one or two people, no one is so protected that a loss will hurt them in any significant way. I’m for the happy ending.
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Post by sportatorium on Aug 29, 2023 11:20:34 GMT -5
Do the job 99% of the time. Occasionally have someone go out on top, but the reasoning has to be very sound IMO.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Aug 29, 2023 11:37:56 GMT -5
Depends on the specific situation. If Roman or Brock were leaving they've been built up so much that of course it'd make sense to use all that to put someone over in their final match.
With Edge and it being a random Smackdown in August in his hometown I was fine with him winning. I think him losing would just have depressed the crowd more than gotten massive heat for the person who beat him. If he was going out in a high-profile match at Wrestlemania though I'd have him lose. Wouldn't have to be to a heel though. I think it's best a lot of the time for matches like this to be face v face so the person can lose their final match then do the handshake and have the big sendoff from the crowd.
Depends on the character too. Like no one wanted to see Austin lose at Mania last year. I don't think KO spending months afterwards cutting promos about beating/retiring Stone Cold would have been worth pissing off the tens of thousands of fans there on the night. If he wasn't racist and liked telling lies about dead children I'd have been fine with Hogan winning his final match too because he's also a character most fans just didn't want to see lose. If Cena announces his final match ahead of time and there's a bunch of make-a-wish kids there that's another one I'd let go out on a feel-good win, especially since he's already lost a bunch in recent years.
The position on the card can play a part too. Like I don't think there would have been any harm in letting Kurt Angle beat Corbin in his final match since it was just a random midcard match at Mania. If it was one of the top matches on the show though and against a better opponent then yeah he should probably put someone over.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 29, 2023 12:27:44 GMT -5
It depends. I think most departing stars should pass the torch, unless the match is happening in their hometown.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 29, 2023 15:30:59 GMT -5
100% you should do the job.
And I am not a traditionalist, I think that kind of thing is bullshit - but I think leaving without putting someone over is disrespectful to your colleagues. Not the promoter, who you most likely owe nothing to given you made money for them. But your rub could help one of your soon to be ex colleagues make more money from that promoter later. I think it's selfish not to.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 29, 2023 17:54:05 GMT -5
I'm in the "depends on the circumstances" camp.
Like, if you've got a career lower-card performer who's retiring, I've got no problem with them riding into the sunset with their hand raised. Bonus points awarded if they go out with a win over someone from the upper midcard or higher.
If you've got somebody who's had a legendary career at the top, and a win over them still means something, then they ought to be putting somebody over clean as a whistle.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 29, 2023 18:18:11 GMT -5
Depends on the circumstances. If they spent a good portion of the end of their run putting people over then they can ride high with a win. Cena for instance, if he won his last match I wouldn’t be mad Yeah, I'd always lean towards the "do the job" route, but circumstances could cause exceptions.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Aug 29, 2023 19:56:29 GMT -5
Do the job. Unless you’re Goldberg and your opponent pissed in Vince’s Cheerios then you get to win.
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Post by avenger on Aug 30, 2023 7:49:40 GMT -5
100% you should do the job. And I am not a traditionalist, I think that kind of thing is bullshit - but I think leaving without putting someone over is disrespectful to your colleagues. Not the promoter, who you most likely owe nothing to given you made money for them. But your rub could help one of your soon to be ex colleagues make more money from that promoter later. I think it's selfish not to. I'm pretty much this, but with the odd exception. You're moving on, but the promotion will still be there, and you were (usually) built up on the way in, so you should go out the right way. Edge was a rare good exception - random Smackdown in his hometown against someone that didn't need the rub. (assuming he's retiring/leaving the WWE) If Baron Corbin wasn't going to get the rub from Kurt Angle after the event, Angle should have jobbed to someone else, or at least have the stipulation where he has to retire if he loses, rather than "I'm retiring and this is my last match", which probably did Corbin more harm than good.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 30, 2023 9:19:11 GMT -5
You go out on your back... unless you are wrestling Theory. Then you should squash him.
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