Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 15:56:08 GMT -5
Give Ian the Collision job
And when he can't do it, let it be Coleman and Nigel
Get Kevin Kelly far, far away from us.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 1, 2023 15:58:35 GMT -5
Political standings and beliefs aside. Ian is way better at his job than Kelly. That’s all that should be discussed Sure, I'll set aside politics. Already hated the dude before he came in and sucked ass on Collision because of his shoot that just seemed to amount to "Divas were whores that f***ed everybody but me". Just really put a bad taste in my mouth.
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Post by bob on Sept 1, 2023 16:01:00 GMT -5
Kevin Kelly is a dog shit announcer
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Sept 1, 2023 16:05:55 GMT -5
Seriously, much respect to Ian, Nigel and Caprice for their time in ROH. NOW, PERMANENTLY MOVE THEM UP TO THE AEW ROSTER ALREADY YOU COWARDS!
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 1, 2023 16:06:20 GMT -5
Honestly? If Veda Scott isn't available or Ian doesn't want to do full time, maybe see if Maven Huffman would be down. He's got a good voice for it.
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Post by XIII on Sept 1, 2023 16:08:47 GMT -5
AEW is a goddamn BATTLE ROYALE. LMAO.
Kevin Kelly somehow makes 2023 Jim Ross sound like an amazing announcer. That’s how bad that he is. THIS DUDE HAS TO GO!
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 1, 2023 16:13:55 GMT -5
Kevin Kelly is so, so f***ing shit. Man's commentary sounds like he's doing voice-over pandemic work for an empty arena. And as I said in another thread, he's such a f***ing ghoul. Am I the only who believes Kelly was "good" in NJPW due to Callis carrying him?
Well, Corino and then Callis, but agreed.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 1, 2023 16:26:49 GMT -5
Give Ian the Collision job And when he can't do it, let it be Coleman and Nigel Get Kevin Kelly far, far away from us. I don't think you want the booth to be two color commentators/analysts; gotta have the straight man in there. As for Kelly, I've been fine with him in NJPW mostly because that job is different from doing national broadcasts; he's the secondary language option for a promotion that knows full well it's selling a product to a hardcore audience, so a somewhat drier sense of humor or some talk that feels more insider-y is kind of expected. Plus, the bigger events have Chris Charlton being awesome, and before the pandemic Gino Gambino was fun, too. But putting all political stuff aside, Ian was just so much better suited to a national gig like Collision, while Kelly came in sounding unfamiliar with the product. That's, uh...no good, not even a little bit. Ian's incredibly valuable as the voice of ROH, but he's also clearly the best option for the job on Saturdays. But the thing here seems to be whatever this drama is; I hadn't heard anything about this, so what the actual hell? Both Kevin and Ian seemed to play roles in getting the other gigs over the last couple years (Ian suggesting Kelly for Collision, Kelly getting Ian in for some NJPW Strong shows), so you wouldn't think this would be the case, but sheesh.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 1, 2023 17:06:42 GMT -5
I don't want to misquote TK, but I do want to say to him : "No, Tony, the product is NOT better when people aren't getting along with each other."
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Post by King Devitt on Sept 1, 2023 17:42:04 GMT -5
Kevin Kelly is so, so f***ing shit. Man's commentary sounds like he's doing voice-over pandemic work for an empty arena. And as I said in another thread, he's such a f***ing ghoul. Am I the only who believes Kelly was "good" in NJPW due to Callis carrying him?
Looking back on my time watching NJPW I would agree with this sentiment whole-heartedly. Callis is just that damn good. Commentary? Managing? Cutting a promo? dude is GOOD. I respect Ian for showing professionalism for so long in the face of Kevin Kelly's bullshit. I probably would've went all CM Punk on him by now.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 1, 2023 21:04:50 GMT -5
Am I the only who believes Kelly was "good" in NJPW due to Callis carrying him?
Looking back on my time watching NJPW I would agree with this sentiment whole-heartedly. Callis is just that damn good. Commentary? Managing? Cutting a promo? dude is GOOD. I respect Ian for showing professionalism for so long in the face of Kevin Kelly's bullshit. I probably would've went all CM Punk on him by now. Callis does his job well. Want him to commentate? He’ll do it. Want him to be an evil scumbag manager? He’s on that life.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 1, 2023 21:07:15 GMT -5
This thread is like that one poll someone made where the votes were like 39 to 1. Nobody's taking Kevin Kelly's side on this. Love to see it.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 1, 2023 21:09:09 GMT -5
Ian Riccaboni is the best thing to happen to AEW in 2023.
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Post by chazraps on Sept 1, 2023 21:37:42 GMT -5
I've enjoyed Ian's worked since he was doing ROH DVD bonus feature dark match commentary. Especially those early *early* Women of Honor matches, he just made everything that much better being on the mic.
I can only assume Ian's looking forward tomorrow because he keeps getting better every day.
He and Colt were amazing (and probably still would be), he and Coleman are always amazing - Ian's knowledgable without being insidery or meta and a professional welcoming presence who calls it like a sport without downplaying the dramatic storyline aspects. He's someone you'd be proud to have at the booth when showing a prospective wrestling fan a match.
AND he's a fellow NYUnicorn.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 1, 2023 21:43:53 GMT -5
Also like, this was the ugly shit in the last Kevin Kelly thread that had to be danced around and made complicated, but like. The problem isn't just "he has political beliefs" because it's not a political belief to say "the people I disagree with are Satanic pedophiles trafficking children to sexually abuse them and harvest by-products of their adrenal glands" and frankly you should distrust anyone who tries to dismiss the problem like it is just 'different politics'. That's not politics. That's insanity. I said in the last thread that 'school boards want to control your children' was a dogwhistle for ugly shit and now here it is.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Sept 1, 2023 22:10:22 GMT -5
I don't want to misquote TK, but I do want to say to him : "No, Tony, the product is NOT better when people aren't getting along with each other." Can't say I've ever watched Toni Storm and Jamie Hayter beat the hell out of each other and been like, "This would even better if they hated each other in real life."
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Post by Hernan on Sept 2, 2023 1:49:26 GMT -5
I was shocked when I heard the news. Granted I don't follow Kelly's social media, so I don't know what was up with him. I had a soft spot for him because of the early years of ROH Sinclair Broadcasting era commentary but I feel this was improved once Ian took over duties. I am in a Discord server with Ian but not the that broke the news. Anyways, I'm team Ian.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Sept 2, 2023 2:00:47 GMT -5
I was enjoying NJPW until Kevin started with the excessive which turned into obnoxious “DESTINOOOOOOOOO” and “RAINMAKERRRRRRRRRR” schtick, so much so I now watch fully in Japanese (which I think has improved my knowledge of the language, but I digress).
I’ve been a big fan of Ian Riccaboni since I rediscovered ROH back in the day, and if this is going to lead to him doing more in the future, I’ll be a happy camper. If he’s not, give me Mauro Ranallo, Samoa Joe, or even Daddy Magic. They would be great improvements over KK
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 5:54:39 GMT -5
Whomever said Kelly started to drop off when Callis left. I think you're onto something. I was indifferent when he was with Callis and thought he was good. But that mightve been on Don leading
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 2, 2023 5:55:37 GMT -5
I was enjoying NJPW until Kevin started with the excessive which turned into obnoxious “DESTINOOOOOOOOO” and “RAINMAKERRRRRRRRRR” schtick, so much so I now watch fully in Japanese (which I think has improved my knowledge of the language, but I digress). I’ve been a big fan of Ian Riccaboni since I rediscovered ROH back in the day, and if this is going to lead to him doing more in the future, I’ll be a happy camper. If he’s not, give me Mauro Ranallo, Samoa Joe, or even Daddy Magic. They would be great improvements over KK Mauro would be a definite no go. He has conflicts working Saturdays (he does MMA/boxing commentary).
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