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Post by KingPooper on Sept 19, 2023 14:45:09 GMT -5
Dude's always given me the creeps. Not really surprized.
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Post by thechase on Sept 26, 2023 11:56:42 GMT -5
Copycats The Beeb are scheduling a 'mystery' hour long Panorama next Monday, and, like the early promotion for the Dispatches programme that exposed Brand, aren't telling you what it's about just yet. www.tvzoneuk.com/post/bbcpanorama-021023
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 26, 2023 15:07:19 GMT -5
To the surprise of nobody except his supporters, Brand – estimated net worth £15-40 million – has taken to e-begging.
And in related news:
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 26, 2023 15:17:22 GMT -5
I'm sure we'll see Russell switch to in video adverts for gold suppliers and prepper buckets to fill the gap, if he hasn't already. Kinda surprised Rumble has ads that would be willing to pull support for someone like Brand, to be honest.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Sept 26, 2023 15:17:59 GMT -5
I am curious. Maybe it's because during my time in law school, I studied divorce proceedings. I have seen some heinous lies be exposed before. Why exactly are people (aka the general public) willing to forgo due process, especially when they have not personally seen any evidence? I don't even really know who this is, but it seems like he has not even been charged with anything yet.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 26, 2023 15:30:59 GMT -5
Rumnble is such a scumbag platform that I'm seriously surprised the companies advertising on there would pull said advertising because they're platforming an accused rapist. Like that's the bridge too far over all the other garbage on there.
Due process doesn't exist in the court of public opinion and there's a ton of damning evidence in the expose on Brand. And it had to be double and triple checked for accuracy because of how the UK's libel laws protect the plaintiff to a ridiculous degree.
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Post by eJm on Sept 26, 2023 15:37:11 GMT -5
Rumnble is such a scumbag platform that I'm seriously surprised the companies advertising on there would pull said advertising because they're platforming an accused rapist. Like that's the bridge too far over all the other garbage on there. Due process doesn't exist in the court of public opinion and there's a ton of damning evidence in the expose on Brand. And it had to be double and triple checked for accuracy because of how the UK's libel laws protect the plaintiff to a ridiculous degree. And again, police in the UK are terrible with SA cases in general. Like, some stuff has been reported to the Met Police since the documentary aired but whether that goes further than that, who knows? It does need to be stress how sure and iron tight this has to be, with the long process that happened because one slip up ruins it all. Especially since Brand went all “The mainstream media’s against me, man” which, to me, doesn’t exactly say “I’m innocent” as much as “TIME TO GRIFT!” To put it an easier way; if one person said something, they should be listened to but it is easier broadly to just go “Well, it only happened to one person”. To have this many stories? Nah, man. That isn’t something to shun.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 26, 2023 15:37:22 GMT -5
I am curious. Maybe it's because during my time in law school, I studied divorce proceedings. I have seen some heinous lies be exposed before. Why exactly are people (aka the general public) willing to forgo due process, especially when they have not personally seen any evidence? I don't even really know who this is, but it seems like he has not even been charged with anything yet. His behaviour was so well known his agency and companies that employed him went out of their way to tell women to avoid him, or to avoid loeaving him alone with female employees and guests on the shows he hosted. Plus one of his victims went to a crisis center, kept messages (which were released as part of the documentary) where he admitted what he'd done and plead for forgiveness. If she's lying, she's playing a pretty long con with nothing to gain but having her life destroyed by his horrendous supporters.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 26, 2023 15:44:04 GMT -5
I kind of wonder if the recent video Jose put up breaking down how Rumble re-counts livestream viewers every 15 seconds to drastically inflate its numbers might lead to a mass exodus of sponsors from it. Clearly demonstrates that the metrics the site provides are extremely dubious.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 26, 2023 16:03:58 GMT -5
If she's lying, she's playing a pretty long con with nothing to gain but having her life destroyed by his horrendous supporters. And that's the thing, like clockwork his supporters fall back on the "They're just doing it for the money and their 15 minutes of fame" fallacy that supporters of Bill Cosby, Danny Masterson, Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, et al also fell back on. Nobody gets famous for being the survivor of a sexual assault from a celebrity. Almost nobody gets rich, and even if they do I doubt they'd consider having a media circus and having internet creeps dig up everything they can find on you and your family to be worth it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 26, 2023 16:30:17 GMT -5
I am curious. Maybe it's because during my time in law school, I studied divorce proceedings. I have seen some heinous lies be exposed before. Why exactly are people (aka the general public) willing to forgo due process, especially when they have not personally seen any evidence? I don't even really know who this is, but it seems like he has not even been charged with anything yet. Hey, the general public are...just asking questions. Or as Russell would say "the collective population of civic society are rethinking the paradigm of how mass media and global conglomerates disseminate information in a sincere endeavour to recontextualise discourse".....and blah blah f***ing blah. There's also something amusing about a conspiracy theorist who positions himself as being anti establishment, now being very focused on the value of evidence, due process and the legal institutions of the state.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 26, 2023 16:39:45 GMT -5
If she's lying, she's playing a pretty long con with nothing to gain but having her life destroyed by his horrendous supporters. And that's the thing, like clockwork his supporters fall back on the "They're just doing it for the money and their 15 minutes of fame" fallacy that supporters of Bill Cosby, Danny Masterson, Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, et al also fell back on. Nobody gets famous for being the survivor of a sexual assault from a celebrity. Almost nobody gets rich, and even if they do I doubt they'd consider having a media circus and having internet creeps dig up everything they can find on you and your family to be worth it. And this attitude is why so many who have been victims of the 'open secret' monsters are unwilling to come forward, they know they'll be dragged through the mud, made to do battle in the court of public opinion against people who have PR agencies ready to run interference, and friends in the press all too eager to run hit pieces. There is no financial upside to this, Brand's career has fizzled out by this point because nobody wanted to work with him and he isn't going to be swimming in residuals from Hop.
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Post by eJm on Sept 26, 2023 17:18:53 GMT -5
To further add to all of this, the Court of Public Opinion has no real power to declare verdicts or really judge those accused of anything except what they know. So, as proven with history, people can be shamed and bashed and, yes, "cancelled" and it wouldn't mean anything because they could still get jobs or stay in their roles.
What people can do is not support the people involved financially or pay attention to their work and it didn't even need any of this stuff for that to work out against Russell Brand.
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Post by Gunhaver on Sept 26, 2023 18:24:10 GMT -5
To the surprise of nobody except his supporters, Brand – estimated net worth £15-40 million – has taken to e-begging. Begging financial support while still performing life shows? Pfffft. On the upside, the usual suspects now have to tie themselves in knots over whether or not to boycott Rumble. Whoopsie poopsie indeed.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 26, 2023 18:45:43 GMT -5
Especially since Brand went all “The mainstream media’s against me, man” which, to me, doesn’t exactly say “I’m innocent” as much as “TIME TO GRIFT!” To add onto this, I've just seen this pop up on my Twitter feed: To save people a click, the influencer is upset because she tried to pay for people's groceries so she could show it on her TikTok and, understandably, the people she approached weren't comfortable with being used for clout. There's absolutely nothing preventing her doing it without an audience, just as there's nothing preventing Russell Brand from peddling his conspiracy theories. It's all about the grift for them. The influencer doesn't do good deeds out of the good of her heart, and Brand doesn't spread his shit because he sees evils that need to be put right or whatever bullshit justification he gives, they do it because they see a market to exploit.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 26, 2023 21:07:52 GMT -5
To the surprise of nobody except his supporters, Brand – estimated net worth £15-40 million – has taken to e-begging. And in related news: The sad thing is, the saps who support him will donate to his fund, despite him having more money than they will ever earn in their lifetime.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 27, 2023 6:23:25 GMT -5
The sad thing is, the saps who support him will donate to his fund, despite him having more money than they will ever earn in their lifetime. Of course. It's a cult, and the hallmark of every good cult is the Leader demands their followers marks give them their money.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 27, 2023 17:32:02 GMT -5
He'll be on GB News eventually, with the rest of the trash.
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