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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 12, 2024 20:44:25 GMT -5
"Okay, Jade, we only need you to do two moves without screwing up, think you can manage it?"
"... Uh..."
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 12, 2024 20:45:05 GMT -5
As the slow build continues to build, I'm just glad they got the look downpat. In terms of looking like a star, Jade carries it 100%! I have heard this story before
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 12, 2024 21:16:37 GMT -5
The conversations around Jade have become so boring already.
"They're scared to put her on TV, she's not ready!" *Jade is put on TV* "She only does 2 moves, she isn't ready!" *They put her in a tag team*
She's literally starting on the live event loop this weekend (I think), this will be the first time she's ever wrestled a normal schedule, she's an absolute star and deserves the time to pick it up.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 12, 2024 21:35:18 GMT -5
The conversations around Jade have become so boring already. "They're scared to put her on TV, she's not ready!" *Jade is put on TV* "She only does 2 moves, she isn't ready!" *They put her in a tag team* She's literally starting on the live event loop this weekend (I think), this will be the first time she's ever wrestled a normal schedule, she's an absolute star and deserves the time to pick it up. My attitude on it is the same as it was with her in AEW. If she isn’t good enough yet to be on TV then why is she on TV? I don’t care about potential if I’m having to watch you suck now.
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Post by HIM on Apr 12, 2024 21:38:07 GMT -5
She will be fine, I'm just glad she's in a tag team and she's working the schedule now so she can get some real time underneath her. I say if she's with Bianca in a tag team until say Rumble season and then they work up to her against Bianca at WM? That would work well. Just do with her what they should have done with Roman.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 21:46:15 GMT -5
The conversations around Jade have become so boring already. "They're scared to put her on TV, she's not ready!" *Jade is put on TV* "She only does 2 moves, she isn't ready!" *They put her in a tag team* She's literally starting on the live event loop this weekend (I think), this will be the first time she's ever wrestled a normal schedule, she's an absolute star and deserves the time to pick it up. My attitude on it is the same as it was with her in AEW. If she isn’t good enough yet to be on TV then why is she on TV? I don’t care about potential if I’m having to watch you suck now. This has basically been my stance on her since they signed her...I knew what to expect her from watching her in AEW so it no surprise to me she is catching the criticism she is now. We are and have been at a point with this division where IMO presence alone isn't enough maybe like 10-15yrs ago sure but this is what everyone solely hypes her around and this is WWE's fault for throwing her into a division where the expectation is we want this division to have 10 , 15 even 20min bangers. A stint in NXT would not have killed her to get some reps in....hell THEY ARE SENDING GIULIA TO NXT for goodness sakes.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 12, 2024 21:50:46 GMT -5
I gave her the benefit of the doubt for a while in AEW and thought if she wrestled a different kind of match she could display more range. But ultimately it was a case of 'when are they going to get to the fireworks factory?' and in AEW sadly the case was never. If she can eventually be a better wrestler in WWE that's fantastic, but training with Bryan didn't do it and to go all this time and be the exact same is... Disheartening.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 12, 2024 21:51:49 GMT -5
Jade rules and is teaming with one of the greatest ever. I'm hyped for this
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 12, 2024 21:51:57 GMT -5
My attitude on it is the same as it was with her in AEW. If she isn’t good enough yet to be on TV then why is she on TV? I don’t care about potential if I’m having to watch you suck now. This has basically been my stance on her since they signed her...I knew what to expect her from watching her in AEW so it no surprise to me she is catching the criticism she is now. We are and have been at a point with this division where IMO presence alone isn't enough maybe like 10-15yrs ago sure but this is what everyone solely hypes her around and this is WWE's fault for throwing her into a division where the expectation is we want this division to have 10 , 15 even 20min bangers. A stint in NXT would not have killed her to get some reps in....hell THEY ARE SENDING GIULIA TO NXT for goodness sakes. That's insane they're sending freaking Giulia to NXT. Jade should have had a run down there, and would have fit in massively well in 'uncomfortably horny NXT'.
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2024 22:46:38 GMT -5
This has basically been my stance on her since they signed her...I knew what to expect her from watching her in AEW so it no surprise to me she is catching the criticism she is now. We are and have been at a point with this division where IMO presence alone isn't enough maybe like 10-15yrs ago sure but this is what everyone solely hypes her around and this is WWE's fault for throwing her into a division where the expectation is we want this division to have 10 , 15 even 20min bangers. A stint in NXT would not have killed her to get some reps in....hell THEY ARE SENDING GIULIA TO NXT for goodness sakes. That's insane they're sending freaking Giulia to NXT. Jade should have had a run down there, and would have fit in massively well in 'uncomfortably horny NXT'. Almost everyone starts in NXT. Adam Cole, Kevin Owens, Asuka, Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe etc. Debuting on the main roster is extremely rare.
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Post by gl83 on Apr 12, 2024 22:55:19 GMT -5
The conversations around Jade have become so boring already. "They're scared to put her on TV, she's not ready!" *Jade is put on TV* "She only does 2 moves, she isn't ready!" *They put her in a tag team* She's literally starting on the live event loop this weekend (I think), this will be the first time she's ever wrestled a normal schedule, she's an absolute star and deserves the time to pick it up. My attitude on it is the same as it was with her in AEW. If she isn’t good enough yet to be on TV then why is she on TV? I don’t care about potential if I’m having to watch you suck now. And watching you suck now can actually be detrimental as people will think you still suck even if you're now somewhat decent(i.e. Lash Legend & Nikki Bella)
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 12, 2024 22:59:21 GMT -5
There's no other way to put it except she looked bad in there tonight but I think it bears remembering that she is capable of decent matches. Like that one with Statlander and some of the Red Velvet ones weren't bad at all. The issue is if they're going to throw titles on her immediately and I don't think they're going to do that still. Like really, let's say you put those tag titles on Jade and Bianca. Who is even going to compete with them for the titles? I don't see them doing that until way later than most people are expecting, like Novemberish.
As for her not being in NXT, I would imagine that was because of reasons. One being that she was the first big person besides Cody to come over from AEW and that was likely a kicker to incentivize the deal. Now if I was her I'd much rather start in NXT so any issues could be limited on the main roster but I could easily see that being part of the contract. She was still off TV and I would hope training but if she felt like AEW wasn't really teaching her, probably didn't think NXT would either which I'd disagree with.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 12, 2024 23:08:26 GMT -5
Jade teams with Bianca post Mania still. So yeah, they are definitely taking the tag titles from Damage CTRL. This is good she stays in a tag team and continues to learn from one of the best ever in Bianca. Bianca probably benefits, too, given I just do not think she'd have anything super compelling to do right now going after a singles title. Like, I am sure her versus Bayley is going to be in the cards, but doing it right away is just asking for one or both of them to get fan backlash, and that's just asinine.
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 13, 2024 0:46:00 GMT -5
That's insane they're sending freaking Giulia to NXT. Jade should have had a run down there, and would have fit in massively well in 'uncomfortably horny NXT'. Almost everyone starts in NXT. Adam Cole, Kevin Owens, Asuka, Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe etc. Debuting on the main roster is extremely rare. Yes, but those names you mentioned was when NXT was a glorified Indie paradise. Now it's firmly developmental. I don't know you'd have Giulia make a stop there, and not Jade when one of the two definitely needs the developmental aspects of the brand. Giulia back in Black and Gold? Yeah, makes total sense. She can put on bangers with Asuka. Now? Eh, I think she's main roster ready. Jade, looks amazing, but skill-wise not so much.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 13, 2024 0:52:25 GMT -5
Most of sending Giulia into NXT is to make her relocation from Japan to the US easier, isn’t it? I don’t care if she’s as good as 10 Bryan Danielsons, I’m not throwing her into the WWE main roster travel schedule within weeks of relocating to a foreign country.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 13, 2024 0:58:16 GMT -5
I will grant that I do feel like there is someone else who epitomizes the same problem behind Jade's push but looks like it could go a lot more catastrophically wrong and that's Bron Breakker. Like, at least with Jade they're not doing anything of substance with her and her current push could kind of end as easily as just having someone beat her and send her tumbling back off of TV. Bron they're endlessly talking up as the future of the business but thrown him right back into the boring generic happy to be here smash everybody face gimmick that wasn't over to start with, and he doesn't quite seem as ready for the main roster grind as they thought he was because he was botching like crazy with Grimes tonight. Feels like they're setting themselves up for way more of a fall on that one than with Jade when really the thing to do with him right now should be keeping the Wolf Dogs together so he can keep showing off more personality and keep growing.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 13, 2024 1:19:18 GMT -5
I don't get the hype. Good look, sure. But David Otunga had a good look. Big Zeke had a good look. And let's be honest, Bianca Belair has a better and more iconic look
She's really not very good
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Post by mistery on Apr 13, 2024 5:20:42 GMT -5
I will grant that I do feel like there is someone else who epitomizes the same problem behind Jade's push but looks like it could go a lot more catastrophically wrong and that's Bron Breakker. Like, at least with Jade they're not doing anything of substance with her and her current push could kind of end as easily as just having someone beat her and send her tumbling back off of TV. Bron they're endlessly talking up as the future of the business but thrown him right back into the boring generic happy to be here smash everybody face gimmick that wasn't over to start with, and he doesn't quite seem as ready for the main roster grind as they thought he was because he was botching like crazy with Grimes tonight. Feels like they're setting themselves up for way more of a fall on that one than with Jade when really the thing to do with him right now should be keeping the Wolf Dogs together so he can keep showing off more personality and keep growing. I mean they have been endlessly hyping up Jade as well.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 13, 2024 5:28:56 GMT -5
I will grant that I do feel like there is someone else who epitomizes the same problem behind Jade's push but looks like it could go a lot more catastrophically wrong and that's Bron Breakker. Like, at least with Jade they're not doing anything of substance with her and her current push could kind of end as easily as just having someone beat her and send her tumbling back off of TV. Bron they're endlessly talking up as the future of the business but thrown him right back into the boring generic happy to be here smash everybody face gimmick that wasn't over to start with, and he doesn't quite seem as ready for the main roster grind as they thought he was because he was botching like crazy with Grimes tonight. Feels like they're setting themselves up for way more of a fall on that one than with Jade when really the thing to do with him right now should be keeping the Wolf Dogs together so he can keep showing off more personality and keep growing. I mean they have been endlessly hyping up Jade as well. True, but in kind of a, "Look at this hot new prospect!" way. With Bron they're like going out of their way to say he's the future of the business in Hall of Fame speeches and shit.
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Post by mistery on Apr 13, 2024 5:40:42 GMT -5
I mean they have been endlessly hyping up Jade as well. True, but in kind of a, "Look at this hot new prospect!" way. With Bron they're like going out of their way to say he's the future of the business in Hall of Fame speeches and shit. A counterpoint to that is Bron also isn't getting a title put around his waist with probably less than 15 minutes of ring time (not counting the Rumble) either. They set up Jade/Bianca vs KW for the tag titles on the post show last night. Also Bron in general while still sloppy, still has more actual potential than Jade who can't even execute three moves correctly. I don't think its a stretch to assume Jade is royally f***ed once this run with Bianca is over either. Because I have literally no reason to believe she is going to be in the ring selling or learning at house shows either. They are going to have her hit two or three moves and then win. She has been wrestling for roughly four years now. And is just as bad as the day she started. If she doesn't even have those basic fundamentals down now, she never will.
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