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Post by PTBartman on Nov 9, 2023 9:46:01 GMT -5
I'm calling it now Miz wins setting a WM match with Cena. I know people out there will be hella mad if Gunther loses to Miz, but 1. It might be because Gunther can’t travel overseas for a few months and the Intercontinental champion should be on overseas shows. 2. It’s long past time for Gunther to move up to the main event. 3. It would be nice if Miz got one last run, even if it’s only for a month or so, enough for him to pass Morales for number of days. 4. I would absolutely be down for that Miz vs Cena match at Mania, but who wins that match? I'm not sure which way to go and I'm fine either way. I just want to see the build. Both are instant HOFers. They have history, and Mania history at that. It'd be the one belt Cena never won Vs the guy who's won it the most number of times (tied) and held it the most number of combined days. I'd probably give it to Cena and have him lose it the next night or week. But I'm fine either way.
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Post by Fade on Nov 10, 2023 1:30:30 GMT -5
Bye miz
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 10, 2023 8:48:52 GMT -5
Bye miz His chest will look like Kofi's after this match.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 11, 2023 23:20:33 GMT -5
I know people out there will be hella mad if Gunther loses to Miz, but 1. It might be because Gunther can’t travel overseas for a few months and the Intercontinental champion should be on overseas shows. 2. It’s long past time for Gunther to move up to the main event. 3. It would be nice if Miz got one last run, even if it’s only for a month or so, enough for him to pass Morales for number of days. 4. I would absolutely be down for that Miz vs Cena match at Mania, but who wins that match? I'm not sure which way to go and I'm fine either way. I just want to see the build. Both are instant HOFers. They have history, and Mania history at that. It'd be the one belt Cena never won Vs the guy who's won it the most number of times (tied) and held it the most number of combined days. I'd probably give it to Cena and have him lose it the next night or week. But I'm fine either way. Honestly, more I think about it, more I want this match. Miz Vs Cena Title vs career. And have it be Cena’s idea, don’t turn Miz back heel for it. Cena wants a shot at the title because he’s never won it and it’s the one thing he’d like to accomplish before he retires. Cena reminds Miz that they’re technically 1-1 at Mania and mentions the beginning of their rivalry when Miz would come out and “challenge” him and declare fake count out victories. He lays it all out, if Miz wins, not only will he officially have the edge over Cena on the biggest stage, he will be the one to retire John Cena once and for all. An offer even face Miz can’t refuse. And just maybe, you even have Cena lean slightly heel in the build, just have him say something to the effect of “If I can’t beat The Miz, I deserve to retire.” Tweak the dynamic a little. Cena would probably win, I’d imagine he’d either retire on Raw or put someone else over on the way out. But I could see John giving that to Mike, and it would be especially ironic to have Cena check the last two boxes on his resume, fight for the IC title and do the heel turn.
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Post by SirLucas on Nov 12, 2023 12:14:01 GMT -5
I am going to guess this will be a 5 match card.
1. Men's Wargames 2. Women's Wargames 3. Gunther vs. Miz 4. Rhea vs. Zoey At this point, possible 5th and 6th matches would be Rey vs. Santos or Knight/Owens vs. Theory and Waller.
There will most likely be some filler in-ring talking segment. Maybe they will do a 5 on 5 traditional survivor series match for brand supremacy.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 12, 2023 12:59:30 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if WWE messed with us and had one babyface member of the war games team, attacked and is out for the match.
Then the fans get excited thinking Punk will be the replacement.
Only for it to be Drew, to further his heel turn, by denying he jumped said babyface.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 12, 2023 20:14:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if WWE messed with us and had one babyface member of the war games team, attacked and is out for the match. Then the fans get excited thinking Punk will be the replacement. Only for it to be Drew, to further his heel turn, by denying he jumped said babyface. Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there.
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Post by Nosnorb on Nov 14, 2023 6:31:31 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if WWE messed with us and had one babyface member of the war games team, attacked and is out for the match. Then the fans get excited thinking Punk will be the replacement. Only for it to be Drew, to further his heel turn, by denying he jumped said babyface. Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there. Looks like Orton will return next monday to make it 5 on 5.
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Post by mistery on Nov 14, 2023 8:20:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if WWE messed with us and had one babyface member of the war games team, attacked and is out for the match. Then the fans get excited thinking Punk will be the replacement. Only for it to be Drew, to further his heel turn, by denying he jumped said babyface. Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there. Eh people will still speculate Punk will be there, especially with Shinsuke's promos as of late. Problem is that I don't even see Shinsuke getting on the Survivor Series card. Presumably two war games matches, plus a women's world title match, plus Gunther/Miz already makes that a loaded card.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 14, 2023 9:34:53 GMT -5
Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there. Eh people will still speculate Punk will be there, especially with Shinsuke's promos as of late. Problem is that I don't even see Shinsuke getting on the Survivor Series card. Presumably two war games matches, plus a women's world title match, plus Gunther/Miz already makes that a loaded card. If Shinsuke is announced for the card in some type of open challenge, then you know something is up.
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Post by PTBartman on Nov 14, 2023 12:10:01 GMT -5
I am going to guess this will be a 5 match card. 1. Men's Wargames 2. Women's Wargames 3. Gunther vs. Miz 4. Rhea vs. Zoey At this point, possible 5th and 6th matches would be Rey vs. Santos or Knight/Owens vs. Theory and Waller. There will most likely be some filler in-ring talking segment. Maybe they will do a 5 on 5 traditional survivor series match for brand supremacy. I really want the fifth match to be Pierce vs Aldis in a traditional Survivor Series match.
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Post by SirLucas on Nov 14, 2023 13:49:49 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if WWE messed with us and had one babyface member of the war games team, attacked and is out for the match. Then the fans get excited thinking Punk will be the replacement. Only for it to be Drew, to further his heel turn, by denying he jumped said babyface. Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there. I think they will keep the 4 vs. 4 format where Priest will force JD to step aside so Drew can take his spot in the match. So far, JD has been treated like the jabroni of the group. On Raw, Priest didn't seem completely genuine about allowing him to become a full member of the group. I could see Priest giving JD the shaft for the Wargames match, which will further build tension between Priest and Balor, since McDonagh is Finn's understudy.
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Post by PTBartman on Nov 14, 2023 20:30:20 GMT -5
Rumor is they’ll announce the full 5-on-5 teams for the Men’s match so as to avoid anyone thinking Punk will be there. I think they will keep the 4 vs. 4 format where Priest will force JD to step aside so Drew can take his spot in the match. So far, JD has been treated like the jabroni of the group. On Raw, Priest didn't seem completely genuine about allowing him to become a full member of the group. I could see Priest giving JD the shaft for the Wargames match, which will further build tension between Priest and Balor, since McDonagh is Finn's understudy. 🤔 Maybe Rhea pushes Priest out in favor of Drew by telling him to concentrate on the briefcase
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Post by SirLucas on Nov 14, 2023 21:54:26 GMT -5
I think they will keep the 4 vs. 4 format where Priest will force JD to step aside so Drew can take his spot in the match. So far, JD has been treated like the jabroni of the group. On Raw, Priest didn't seem completely genuine about allowing him to become a full member of the group. I could see Priest giving JD the shaft for the Wargames match, which will further build tension between Priest and Balor, since McDonagh is Finn's understudy. 🤔 Maybe Rhea pushes Priest out in favor of Drew by telling him to concentrate on the briefcase I like that better, a little Money in the Bank tease.
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Post by Hunch back of Notredomus on Nov 15, 2023 7:32:24 GMT -5
Hey all I’m new here.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 15, 2023 9:15:31 GMT -5
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Post by SirLucas on Nov 15, 2023 22:46:59 GMT -5
So I guess here are the options now.
1. The match stays status quo with Priest/Balor/Dominik/JD vs. Seth/Cody/Sami/Jey 2. JD is removed from the heel team and replaced with Drew 3. Priest removes himself from the heel team and is replaced with Drew
Now if the match increases to 5 on 5 with the additional of Drew and no subtractions from the Judgement Day, here are the most likely possibilities for the 5th team member on the babyface side.
1. Randy Orton 2. Kevin Owens...Since he was suspended on Smackdown, I could possibly see him hopping back over to Raw and joining his buddies for Wargames. 3. And of course, CM Punk as a surprise entrant.
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Post by DMO- on Nov 16, 2023 5:46:59 GMT -5
I know sometimes WWE gonna WWE, but how do they explain Orton agreeing to team with Jey USO when he was part of the kayfabe reason orton was out with his injury.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 16, 2023 13:06:23 GMT -5
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 16, 2023 15:36:43 GMT -5
I know sometimes WWE gonna WWE, but how do they explain Orton agreeing to team with Jey USO when he was part of the kayfabe reason orton was out with his injury. begrudgingly, then the match happens with Jey proving himself to be trustworthy. It's a nice contrast from Drew turning heel from blaming Jey.
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