So...What Now? (Post-Vince Wrestling Industry)

[nisidhe]

I've asked the mods about creating this thread but didn't receive an answer so, assuming here that qui tacit consentia, here goes.

Many of us are clearly jubilant that Vince McMahon, rightly, has been forced from his last remaining grip on WWE - with allegations that all but guarantee that he is never going to be able to appear in polite society again. Others might stfill be processing the news, however, with an eye to changes that will almost certainly be afoot throughout the industry in the near and long-term future.

We've largely discussed the impact Vince's departure is likely to have upon WWE itself - with the promise of a houseclearing that may well purge most, if not all personnel from the Vince-controlled era(s) from the company, if not the industry itself. But the events of the last 40ish hours have not only all but severed the connection between WWE and its fairground/gangster past, but also brought into focus some of the darker aspects of the business which have somewhat, but not completely, been pushed out in the years since the Benoit tragedy brought them to light. Illicit use of certain drugs seems to have diminished along with the worst abuses brought about from it, for example. Injuries, however, seem to be still healing up far faster that might be reasonable. The scope for promotions expanding in number and size as gatekeeper types like DeMott are shown the exits might be a short-term trend to come from this, particularly since AEW's ownership has come from outside the business and thus not tethered to the carniness of its larger competitors.

If I may, I'd like to get some discourse going here about what Vince's ouster has accomplished that could not be fully achieved beforehand; the ways in which the business may have already been moving on without Vince (particularly since, say, 2010; and what we might come to expect in the business in the years to come.

Mods, I leave it to you to decide where, if anywhere, this discussion might be best placed.

[Allie Kitsune]

TKO may actually sign trans/nb talent, now.

Not that WWE's fanbase can be trusted to be respectful about that yet, compared to AEW's or even TNA's, but...

[fw91]

It's a big story, but assuming HHH stays on board. We're seeing what it looks like now.

[ChitownKnight]

If Trips has to go (which I doubt would happen), I wonder who the head of creative would be

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

[Allie Kitsune]

Jan 27, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

That doesn't happen until you kick everyone who has... certain... views out of the company.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jan 27, 2024 14:35:36 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Jan 27, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

That doesn't happen until you kick everyone who has... certain... views out of the company.

might happen, might not but regardless this type of event in a company's history usually leads to stuff like that

maybe from 0% to 1%

[Dub H]

Nothing is gonna change, the culture of management is already the one that enabled Vince and the booking is the same and the fans don't care about the whole mess.

[Zombie Mod is not a ghoul.]

Jan 27, 2024 13:15:02 GMT -5 nisidhe said:

I've asked the mods about creating this thread but didn't receive an answer so, assuming here that qui tacit consentia, here goes.


Mods, I leave it to you to decide where, if anywhere, this discussion might be best placed.

next time wait longer than 2 hours for an answer.

[cosmo]

Jan 27, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

I’ve actually wondered if pro wrestlers could qualify for a stunt performer’s union. Probably not, but there’s be no harm in trying.

[lucas_lee]

Jan 27, 2024 15:38:09 GMT -5 cosmo said:

Jan 27, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

I’ve actually wondered if pro wrestlers could qualify for a stunt performer’s union. Probably not, but there’s be no harm in trying.

Jesse Ventura was close to getting the boys a shot at a union but the Hulkster rated to Vince allegedly and got that notion shut down asap.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Jan 27, 2024 15:38:09 GMT -5 cosmo said:

Jan 27, 2024 14:32:51 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

this whole time i've been thinking about a union

I’ve actually wondered if pro wrestlers could qualify for a stunt performer’s union. Probably not, but there’s be no harm in trying.

yeah probably not but as lucas just mentioned, there has been attempts before. not saying i think it'll happen or even there's a big chance but this strikes me as one of those moments where it might get mentioned eventually

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

Ice cream bars

[chrom]

[daaave]

Jan 27, 2024 13:22:38 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

TKO may actually sign trans/nb talent, now.

Not that WWE's fanbase can be trusted to be respectful about that yet, compared to AEW's or even TNA's, but...

Considering Dana White/UFC (and ergo TKO) let Sean Strickland get away with saying some nasty transphobic stuff literally the other week, I wouldn't hold your breath

[Bo Rida]

I think for a long time wrestling was seen as something so weird and unique that it needed wrestling people to run it.

Now Vince imploding and the success of the two Khans will give the money men the perception that's no longer true.

In many ways that's good, things will be done more professionally.
But they also don't care for wrestling. It doesn't look likely now but if they hit a slump what's their reaction? Or if they dont appreciate the crazy logistical challenge it must be to keep the circus on the road.

Maybe other big players will want to enter the industry. Or the wrestlers will make their millions and say f*** it and start their own little territories away from the corporate influence.

We might mock hhh's world domination map but geographically there's a lot of untapped potential. Netflix have found success with tv from around the world. Why not the same with wrestling?

[ace]

A post Vince industry?

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Jan 27, 2024 13:48:00 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

If Trips has to go (which I doubt would happen), I wonder who the head of creative would be

Fine, I'll do it.

No one is going to enjoy this but me.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

This thread is way premature. Vince is a petty man who refuses to accept losing. The industry isn't post Vince until he is dead or in an institution, and even in the latter case I would have my doubts

And not to put too fine a point on it but even without us knowing who his enablers were, they clearly all still work there so I doubt much will change at all

I hope it does. I hope this is him gone and a cull of the execs happens next and then maybe we can move on with our lives

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The same stuff we've seen the last year unless HHH leaves in the fallout.