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Post by cjh on Feb 24, 2024 19:55:06 GMT -5
There was an attempt at a Fox show, Enemies….get it?  ! It had its back door pilot on an episode of Married with Children. A subplot even has Al watching Friends…with the sound off and binoculars. Which is hilarious considering they tried launching another back door pilot a few years prior... starring Matt LeBlanc. Fox actually did turn that MWC episode into a series called Top of the Heap that was canceled after 7 episodes. A year later, for some bizarre reason, they gave LeBlanc's character Vinnie Verducci a spinoff series called Vinnie and Bobby. That one also ended after just 7 episodes. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 24, 2024 20:06:05 GMT -5
Don't have a stegosaurus man!
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 24, 2024 20:10:21 GMT -5
I mean seemingly every sitcom there for a while was the same formula: Dipshit husband and his shenanigans, brilliant wife who always pulls husband out of the jam he gets himself (and usually best friend who lives next door) in, and cute kid(s) who are just...there. Has there ever been a reversal, where the wife was the idiot who fouled things up and the husband was the smart one who fixed things? I Love Lucy perhaps She wasn't actually the wife (at least not at first) but that's not an inaccurate description of The Nanny. |
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Post by tafkaga on Feb 26, 2024 14:30:35 GMT -5
The Office clones...
Parks & Rec
Superstore
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Post by KingPooper on Feb 26, 2024 20:02:36 GMT -5
While there are differences, I always thought HIMYM was Friends where they didn’t hide the fact they were all a bunch of jerks.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 26, 2024 21:35:37 GMT -5
Ozark was pretty clearly an attempt to ape Breaking Bad, complete with cartel involvement and a marital affair.
They even both star actors then-best known for playing the put-upon father in a family sitcom.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 27, 2024 5:21:27 GMT -5
While there are differences I always thought HIMYM was Friends where they didn’t hide the fact the were all a bunch of jerks. Pretty much. And at least Friends finale didn't make me want to burn down the studio |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 27, 2024 5:24:14 GMT -5
I mean seemingly every sitcom there for a while was the same formula: Dipshit husband and his shenanigans, brilliant wife who always pulls husband out of the jam he gets himself (and usually best friend who lives next door) in, and cute kid(s) who are just...there. Has there ever been a reversal, where the wife was the idiot who fouled things up and the husband was the smart one who fixed things? I Love Lucy perhaps Somewhat. And there's absolutely no chance in hell they'd do a reversal now. Society would never allow it. |
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Post by Glitch on Feb 27, 2024 5:53:19 GMT -5
Jackass was basically Buzzkill but with a lot of gay jokes.
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Post by karl100589 on Feb 27, 2024 15:23:16 GMT -5
The Office clones... Parks & Rec Superstore Parks and Rec was made by the same guy (Michael Schur) and Superstore by one of The Office’s writers (Justin Spitzer) |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 27, 2024 16:10:26 GMT -5
While there are differences I always thought HIMYM was Friends where they didn’t hide the fact the were all a bunch of jerks. Pretty much. And at least Friends finale didn't make me want to burn down the studio I am fine with the finale as that is what they were building towards from the very beginning. They filmed all of the kids’ scenes roughly at the same time, including their enthusiastic endorsement of Robin as their dad’s new GF. I imagine that the show being so long-running is part of the problem. I’m guessing the showrunners were anticipating 4-5 seasons where the mom was introduced in the final season. That way it would have been only 3-4 seasons of building to the mother’s introduction, which is definitely better than the 8 seasons of buildup for a character that was always destined to die. Remember, the premise of the show was to ultimately dictate how important Robin was to Ted all along. It also explains why Ted was always portrayed as looking for the perfect one. He was both explaining his history with Robin while also putting their mother on an exalted pedestal. It was basically “I really, really loved your mom. Believe me on that. I also hope you can be okay with me dating not-your-mom, now that I have explained why she is so important to me”. That probably would have gone over better had the show not been so outrageously successful and ran so long. |
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Post by saneiac on Feb 27, 2024 16:18:53 GMT -5
A lot of shows are premised on "What if Sherlock Homes was ____", so there is going to be some overlap, though obviously, Monk and House MD are WILDLY different in actual execution. Monk and Psyche, on the other hand, were not all that different. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 27, 2024 16:48:35 GMT -5
Has there ever been a reversal, where the wife was the idiot who fouled things up and the husband was the smart one who fixed things? I Love Lucy perhaps Somewhat. And there's absolutely no chance in hell they'd do a reversal now. Society would never allow it. Ehhh, I think it'd just kind of depend on how they portrayed it. You could do an impulsive wife with a more straight-laced husband easily enough if you have the writing/performances to back it up. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Feb 27, 2024 17:36:12 GMT -5
Somewhat. And there's absolutely no chance in hell they'd do a reversal now. Society would never allow it. Ehhh, I think it'd just kind of depend on how they portrayed it. You could do an impulsive wife with a more straight-laced husband easily enough if you have the writing/performances to back it up. Heck, Dharma and Greg wasn’t that long ago. Its final episode only aired in…… (Looks it up) 2002? Really? It was 22 years ago? Well, Jenna Elfman still looks good, all the same. |
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Post by unc40 on Feb 27, 2024 19:50:25 GMT -5
Supertrain was very similar to the Love Boat with having a different guest stars with individual stories except it took place on a train that traveled across the country and was run by nuclear power. The show only lasted nine episodes.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 27, 2024 23:56:48 GMT -5
one tree hill is degrassi with no kids.
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Post by thechase on Feb 28, 2024 2:00:31 GMT -5
Viper was Knight Rider but the car didn't talk
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 28, 2024 7:29:43 GMT -5
Pretty much. And at least Friends finale didn't make me want to burn down the studio I am fine with the finale as that is what they were building towards from the very beginning. They filmed all of the kids’ scenes roughly at the same time, including their enthusiastic endorsement of Robin as their dad’s new GF. I imagine that the show being so long-running is part of the problem. I’m guessing the showrunners were anticipating 4-5 seasons where the mom was introduced in the final season. That way it would have been only 3-4 seasons of building to the mother’s introduction, which is definitely better than the 8 seasons of buildup for a character that was always destined to die. Remember, the premise of the show was to ultimately dictate how important Robin was to Ted all along. It also explains why Ted was always portrayed as looking for the perfect one. He was both explaining his history with Robin while also putting their mother on an exalted pedestal. It was basically “I really, really loved your mom. Believe me on that. I also hope you can be okay with me dating not-your-mom, now that I have explained why she is so important to me”. That probably would have gone over better had the show not been so outrageously successful and ran so long. The problem is in keeping with their endgame, they destroyed *seasons* worth of character growth as well as failing to consider that fans not only accepted Barney and Robin, but completely fell in love with the idea of them living happily ever after. And making matters worse is that they managed to do all that in the span of about 15 minutes. |
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 28, 2024 11:43:27 GMT -5
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is Seinfeld but with no holding back on how bad the characters are.
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Post by mountaindew on Mar 22, 2024 0:36:48 GMT -5
King of Queens is just the Honeymooners. So are the Flintstones. So are about 500 other sitcoms. What do The King of Queens and The Flintstones have in common with The Honeymooners, besides having a fat husband and thin wife? |
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! It had its back door pilot on an episode of Married with Children. A subplot even has Al watching Friends…with the sound off and binoculars.
