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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Mar 5, 2024 23:32:31 GMT -5
With his current reign, where do you place him as far as IC Champions go? Is he in contention for the goat? Top 5? Top 10?
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 5, 2024 23:39:19 GMT -5
I started watching regularly in 2004, so I’d say he’s the GOAT IC champ my opinion
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 5, 2024 23:54:02 GMT -5
The best. His combination of longevity and match quality is easily tops.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 5, 2024 23:56:32 GMT -5
It will depend on how it all ends, but I'd rank him exceedingly high, in the top 5 without hesitation. I am reluctant to call him the best until I know how it all pays off. That determines the value of a reign as much as the beginning and middle, arguably.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 6, 2024 0:00:43 GMT -5
One of the best to hold the belt imo
Dude has put on amazing match after amazing match, and when he loses it, he should be immediately going for the world title.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 6, 2024 0:03:10 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd call him the outright best off hand. But he's easily in the conversation.
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 6, 2024 0:08:09 GMT -5
Can't call him the outright greatest as I think the Ultimate Warrior(yeah, I know) took the belt to it's highest point and depending how it ends, we'll see where he ranks top 5.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 6, 2024 0:10:10 GMT -5
Not sure but far as I'm concerned a year long title reign and a good title reign are antonyms so it isn't high.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Mar 6, 2024 0:20:11 GMT -5
Methinks that GUNTHER would find a way to pin all IC Champions that went before, so yea he's the greatest, IMHO.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Mar 6, 2024 1:03:22 GMT -5
GUNTHER is easily the greatest.
Longest reign ever, consistent defences, clean wins, great matches.
The only thing maybe going against him is lack of storylines, but even then, he made a contender's child cry while she watched from the front rowm
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 6, 2024 1:35:21 GMT -5
Never threw the IC belt off a bridge along with a snorkel and a pair of flippers/10
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Post by HIM on Mar 6, 2024 1:55:23 GMT -5
Top 5 for me. Sure he's got the longest reign but when counting quality in matches, programs, character, prestige, yeah I'd put him in the top 5 portion. I just wish the storylines were a bit better.
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Post by grungesmurf on Mar 6, 2024 3:32:02 GMT -5
He’s in my top 3 favorites of all time! The other 2 being Perfect and Randy Savage.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 6, 2024 4:54:42 GMT -5
Top 5 for me. Perfect is 1 and Razor is 2, when you say IC Title they're the first names I think of, afterwards it's Bret, HBK, and Gunther.
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Post by callmekc on Mar 6, 2024 7:56:19 GMT -5
GUNTHER is easily the greatest. Longest reign ever, consistent defences, clean Winds, great matches. The only thing maybe going against him is lack of storylines, but even then, he made a contenders child cry while she watched from the front rowm By virtually any metric you could use, he is easily the Kayfabe GOAT IC champion. From a fan perspective, this isn't the right time or way to evaluate his reign compared to the likes of Perfect or Razor because we have seen how those matches influenced the business and wrestlers that came after. Those kind of reigns made the IC title the workhorse belt and it is only in retrospect that you can classify and categorise historic moments.
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Post by lucas_lee on Mar 6, 2024 10:14:32 GMT -5
GUNTHER is what you'd want an IC champion to be. Elevating the title through great ring work and winning clean most of the time. Hes one of the greatest to hold it next to Macho and Warrior.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Mar 6, 2024 10:20:09 GMT -5
Kayfabe wise, he’s easily #1
For me, probably top 3.
High match quality, I feel like he’s elevated opponents too. He’s defended it a good amount and is awesome in the ring. Gotta see how it finishes and whatnot, but he’s been amazing.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 6, 2024 10:24:19 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect is synonymous with the IC Title for me. But Gunther is right up there now. Putting over Gable at Mania would be a great way to end it too.
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Post by Soultastic on Mar 6, 2024 11:00:40 GMT -5
Who betta?
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Post by Stu on Mar 6, 2024 11:01:16 GMT -5
Outside of Miz, I feel like the bar is pretty low from the past 20 years.
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