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Post by daaave on Apr 9, 2024 15:07:20 GMT -5
My brain is drawing a blank but are we talking about All In? yep, imo they're gonna want to put the title on a heel champion before ospreay takes it from him at wembley. i'd rather see swerve go on a run of at least six months but i really don't think anyone can resist the temptation of that God imagine they quickly turn Swerve for that. Be awful. Be like TNA and Austin Aries. Dude gets super over so they turn him face, belt him up in an fantastic all time great TNA moment. Then turn him back heel quite quickly so he could lose title to Jeff Hardy.
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Post by markymark on Apr 9, 2024 17:06:43 GMT -5
I posted it in the Mercedes thread too but its insane TK is saving her AEW in ring debut for next month but I kinda understand it because with 7 matches in the main card thus far it will probably end up with 10 by adding Trios, International title defenses and then whatever LionHook does because Jericho always has to be on PPV....
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 9, 2024 17:13:23 GMT -5
yep, imo they're gonna want to put the title on a heel champion before ospreay takes it from him at wembley. i'd rather see swerve go on a run of at least six months but i really don't think anyone can resist the temptation of that God imagine they quickly turn Swerve for that. Be awful. Be like TNA and Austin Aries. Dude gets super over so they turn him face, belt him up in an fantastic all time great TNA moment. Then turn him back heel quite quickly so he could lose title to Jeff Hardy. i don't think they would, they have to know that swerve is solidly a face even if the way there can be questioned. hell for all we know maybe they're not super set on ospreay getting the title no matter what at Wembley but if they were going to do that for Saraya last year, common sense would point to someone who is massively over.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Apr 9, 2024 19:07:00 GMT -5
Nobody NEEDS to be a concrete heel for Swerve/Ospreay to work as the main event of All In. I think the match is just as big if they are both faces with Swerve leaning more into his sadistic side during the build. Honestly, it already feels bigger than Cole/MJF last year and they have months to properly build up both men. I think you need to strike now with Swerve if you want to cement him as one of your top draws moving forward.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 10, 2024 13:45:13 GMT -5
Couple of thoughts on the major matches:
-Part of me's thinking Joe vs. Swerve doesn't end here: I don't know if the iron is as hot right now for Swerve as it's intended to be whenever he wins it, given that the build for this right now hasn't really hit a fever pitch and Hangman's absence makes it feel like they're going to have him do something drastic again to keep Swerve from winning. His TV segments haven't been as protected as Ospreay's right now (e.g. in terms of not having to worry about commercial wraparounds and whatnot), so it's possible they're saving his win for a more pronounced build in May. Basically, I think there's more they can do with him and Joe, and just feel like they're not at the crescendo of the story yet. Big indicator, to me, will be if this match is the semi-main, with Ospreay/Dragon on last: if that's the case, then I think they're saving Swerve's moment for Vegas, where he can say he's going "Double or Nothing" on Joe.
-That said, I'm also getting the vibe that Ospreay might actually fall short against Danielson: he's been on a roll and regularly featured in matches, but the story for this one has that vibe that he's not entirely ready for what Dragon will bring to the table as an opponent, so what he's been doing on Dynamite fails to get the job done at Dynasty. Basically, Ospreay's longterm story seems to be "I'm going to be the new top face of this promotion", but an early stumble against one of the top standard bearers gives him something to overcome: he likely builds to a rematch where he declaratively wins, while a loss here potentially turns Don Callis against him, since Callis has seen him as his unbeatable golden goose up to this point.
That said, it could just as easily finish with Swerve holding the big belt and Ospreay winning to cement his spot now, not later, just throwing out what could end up being complicating factors.
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Post by daaave on Apr 10, 2024 14:22:06 GMT -5
100% agree about Ospreay losing and to an extent Swerve losing. If they have Ospreay win then it's going to be really hard to not have him facing champ at DON. Both he and Danielson are in the top 5 rankings. So could easily see Danielson winning and set him up as challenger at DON.
But when I fantasy book that in my head I then want Danielson vs Joe at DON. A match they have weirdly avoided so far in AEW. That's a huge match with huge history. Especially if billed as Danielson's last chance at AEW world title. But then Swerve has to lose and then what, save his title win for All In?
Screw it, lets do that. Hangman costs Swerve. Danielson wins, Don Callis then turns on Ospreay next Dynamite and thats a program (god knows how as Ospreay has already cleaned through his stable). Danielson beats Joe at DON (just f***ing do it Bryan) and Swerve/Hangman have there big blow off also at DON.
Danielson has some dream match with whoever from Japan at Forbidden Door. Swerve finally beats Joe in a no1 contender on the road to All In where he goes on to finally win title, beating Danielson. Ospreay doesn't really need the title this year. He can have it at All In next year
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 10, 2024 14:39:09 GMT -5
100% agree about Ospreay losing and to an extent Swerve losing. If they have Ospreay win then it's going to be really hard to not have him facing champ at DON. Both he and Danielson are in the top 5 rankings. So could easily see Danielson winning and set him up as challenger at DON. But when I fantasy book that in my head I then want Danielson vs Joe at DON. A match they have weirdly avoided so far in AEW. That's a huge match with huge history. Especially if billed as Danielson's last chance at AEW world title. But then Swerve has to lose and then what, save his title win for All In? Screw it, lets do that. Hangman costs Swerve. Danielson wins, Don Callis then turns on Ospreay next Dynamite and thats a program (god knows how as Ospreay has already cleaned through his stable). Danielson beats Joe at DON (just f***ing do it Bryan) and Swerve/Hangman have there big blow off also at DON. Danielson has some dream match with whoever from Japan at Forbidden Door. Swerve finally beats Joe in a no1 contender on the road to All In where he goes on to finally win title, beating Danielson. Ospreay doesn't really need the title this year. He can have it at All In next year sounds about perfect to me. only issue is dragging danielson kicking and screaming into a title run
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Post by daaave on Apr 10, 2024 14:46:48 GMT -5
Only problem with that is Ospreay never gets a win over Danielson. But I guess you could save that rematch for one of Danielson's marque rare post-retirement matches
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 13, 2024 22:06:05 GMT -5
Bucks/FTR is a ladder match now and they added kyle vs. roddy for the international title. bring that title home kyle, there's enough room in the cardboard box!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 13, 2024 22:18:50 GMT -5
This is shaping up to be an insanely stacked show.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 14, 2024 5:53:17 GMT -5
This is an unbelievable card. They've made some decisions I don't agree with recently but this is a reminder of why I'm an AEW fangirl.
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Post by daaave on Apr 14, 2024 6:17:26 GMT -5
You'd expect Jericho will be on this card. Do they set up Hook/Jericho II on Dynamite this week and Jericho completes the turn at ppv? Or do they do sonething bit more interesting and different?
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 14, 2024 8:55:32 GMT -5
Why haven't they announced Bullet Club Gold vs The Acclaimed?
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Post by markymark on Apr 14, 2024 10:09:12 GMT -5
You'd expect Jericho will be on this card. Do they set up Hook/Jericho II on Dynamite this week and Jericho completes the turn at ppv? Or do they do sonething bit more interesting and different?
Yes given how they have been rushing the story recently, Jericho beats Hook for the FTW title and turns heel in the process.
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Post by daaave on Apr 14, 2024 11:08:31 GMT -5
You'd expect Jericho will be on this card. Do they set up Hook/Jericho II on Dynamite this week and Jericho completes the turn at ppv? Or do they do sonething bit more interesting and different?
Yes given how they have been rushing the story recently, Jericho beats Hook for the FTW title and turns heel in the process.
That would be the boring option. I think there is something different to do here which I'm hoping they try. Something like where Jericho is Hook's douchey veteran manager/mentor who is basically using Hook for his own nefarious means. But I think the ship has sailed for that now
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 14, 2024 15:04:41 GMT -5
You'd expect Jericho will be on this card. Do they set up Hook/Jericho II on Dynamite this week and Jericho completes the turn at ppv? Or do they do sonething bit more interesting and different? Yes given how they have been rushing the story recently, Jericho beats Hook for the FTW title and turns heel in the process.
Jericho beating Hook would suck so f***ing much There's just no logic behind it. Hook is over, magically, and giving it to a guy the crowd is absolutely fed up with is the most Jericho brained bullshit possible.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 14, 2024 16:18:27 GMT -5
Yes given how they have been rushing the story recently, Jericho beats Hook for the FTW title and turns heel in the process.
Jericho beating Hook would suck so f***ing much There's just no logic behind it. Hook is over, magically, and giving it to a guy the crowd is absolutely fed up with is the most Jericho brained bullshit possible. Magically? He's been over for three years lol, Jericho wouldn't stop that tbh
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 14, 2024 16:58:49 GMT -5
Jericho beating Hook would suck so f***ing much There's just no logic behind it. Hook is over, magically, and giving it to a guy the crowd is absolutely fed up with is the most Jericho brained bullshit possible. Magically? He's been over for three years lol, Jericho wouldn't stop that tbh Magically BECAUSE he's in a Jericho feud and that murders everyone.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 14, 2024 17:03:53 GMT -5
i'm gonna need to figure out how the whole FITE in the states thing works, I want to watch this but I've had enough of paying way more to give it to bleacher report lmao
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 14, 2024 17:33:10 GMT -5
Magically? He's been over for three years lol, Jericho wouldn't stop that tbh Magically BECAUSE he's in a Jericho feud and that murders everyone. HOOK's pretty much bulletproof at this point
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