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Post by thirteen3 on Apr 12, 2024 11:32:13 GMT -5
I might give Smackdown a try this week, but I might just stick with youtube clips. I don't really watch weekly wrestling of any kind anymore.
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Post by mo on Apr 12, 2024 11:33:31 GMT -5
I’m definitely more interested in the product now than I have been in forever but I don’t think I care about wrestling enough to tune in every single week anymore. I’ll keep tabs on the people I’m most interested in but most of the wrestlers themselves are just blah to me.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2024 11:34:24 GMT -5
I don't have TV service, so I only watch PLEs anyway. Otherwise, segment clips here and there.
If the tribalism continues to get worse, well, I don't want to feel like a bad person about what I watch, so WWE's gonna be on thin ice.
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Post by schma on Apr 12, 2024 11:40:07 GMT -5
I actually picked up the sportsnet online package to watch Wrestlemania, but I've also watched Smackdown, Raw and NXT. Dear god the commercials. I swear every match on Raw had at least 1 commercial break and it wasn't a short break either. Also so they could do a 45 minute Cody/Triple H/Rock promo that managed to get a "this is awkward" chant going. Even the main event of Raw had two commercial breaks. How the hell am I supposed to get into that? That's late WCW bs. Unless things change in the next couple of weeks, I won't be renewing the subscription. There's some excellent content but even being able to fast forward through commercials, it's nuts. The extra commercials in that episode is really to make up for the “commercial-free” first hour. That won’t be the case week to week. I figured that might be the case but even NXT seemed to have a lot of commercials. That said, I'll give the shows a couple more chances. Rock can't eat up an hour on every show after all.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 12, 2024 11:44:15 GMT -5
2023 was the first full year since...2008 I think that I basically watched consistently. Not just Mania, Rumble, some other big PPVs and the occasional TV show. I got back into the groove of watching almost every show.
It remains to be seen if 2024 will be the same. The locations alone have me hyped for the upcoming PPVs though so I doubt I'll be taking my old post-Mania break until Summerslam. Backlash in France. Clash at the Castle in Scotland. MITB in Toronto. Bash in Berlin. Without even knowing the cards yet I'm expecting these to be exciting shows. I think that's what helped me stick around last year. A PPV in Puerto Rico? A real PPV in London after 30 years? If they ever go back to having 90% of big shows in regular US arenas again I think I'd lose quite a bit of interest. I want them to go even further in the other direction. Have PPVs in South Africa, Japan, Spain, Ireland, Denmark and on and on.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 12, 2024 11:47:42 GMT -5
The extra commercials in that episode is really to make up for the “commercial-free” first hour. That won’t be the case week to week. I figured that might be the case but even NXT seemed to have a lot of commercials. That said, I'll give the shows a couple more chances. Rock can't eat up an hour on every show after all. American shows have a lot of commercials these days. Not really anything WWE can help on their own.
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Post by schma on Apr 12, 2024 11:50:54 GMT -5
I figured that might be the case but even NXT seemed to have a lot of commercials. That said, I'll give the shows a couple more chances. Rock can't eat up an hour on every show after all. American shows have a lot of commercials these days. Not really anything WWE can help on their own. Yeah, when I go home for christmas I can't help but notice it, (my mom still has cable). I guess I've been streaming for so long that it makes it so much worse but damn there needs to be a limit. They were hitting TBS 'let's stretch a 90 minute movie into 3 hours' levels.
But yeah, it's really got out of hand. I remember watching one of the nighttime talk shows and I'd be surprised if there was even 45 minutes of content in the hour.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 12, 2024 12:01:00 GMT -5
I watched raw after a PP.. I mean "PLE" which is rare...
I may watch smackdown tonight for the first time in like 4 years...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 12, 2024 12:03:51 GMT -5
American shows have a lot of commercials these days. Not really anything WWE can help on their own. Yeah, when I go home for christmas I can't help but notice it, (my mom still has cable). I guess I've been streaming for so long that it makes it so much worse but damn there needs to be a limit. They were hitting TBS 'let's stretch a 90 minute movie into 3 hours' levels. But yeah, it's really got out of hand. I remember watching one of the nighttime talk shows and I'd be surprised if there was even 45 minutes of content in the hour.
It's why when I was a regular watcher I dvr'd it... a 3 hour raw could fly by and I wouldn't have had to sit through the never starting Rock promo that seemed to take up most of the first hour but really only had about 5 minutes of content.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 12, 2024 12:05:57 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that if you're not enjoying something, just stop. I did it with WWE in the past, ROH in 2016, and currently with New Japan.
For WWE, I am watching weekly but not live unless it's a PLE. I'll DVR the weekly shows (same with AEW) and skim them, watching what I like, which is most of it.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 12, 2024 12:28:23 GMT -5
Haven't watched WWE in over a decade and don't see myself starting up again now. Just isn't the promotion for me anymore. They've definitely improved but there's still this icky feeling I get when I think about how Vince is still a major shareholder and they're ostensibly still putting on those sportswashing blood money shows for Saudi Arabia. I'm also just really turned off by all the punching down they've been wasting time on over a promotion with half their audience over the last week. Kinda feels like I'd be supporting the playground bully, personally. If it helps at all, Vince has almost sold all of his shares, he’s down to 4.7% of the company, and I believe the overwhelming majority of those shares are collateral for loans (7.2 million of his 8 million remaining shares are for that purpose). It does a little bit but ... Yeah it's going to take more than one person leaving for me. Maybe if they stopped putting on shows in Saudi I'd start considering it.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Apr 12, 2024 12:31:26 GMT -5
There's still a lot of meaningless wrestling on both Raw and SD, so I can see how someone would still find both shows a little difficult to sit through.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2024 12:31:38 GMT -5
If it helps at all, Vince has almost sold all of his shares, he’s down to 4.7% of the company, and I believe the overwhelming majority of those shares are collateral for loans (7.2 million of his 8 million remaining shares are for that purpose). It does a little bit but ... Yeah it's going to take more than one person leaving for me. Maybe if they stopped putting on shows in Saudi I'd start considering it. They only question is if they can refuse to honor the rest of the contract without someone getting the Khashoggi treatment.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 12, 2024 13:51:21 GMT -5
It does a little bit but ... Yeah it's going to take more than one person leaving for me. Maybe if they stopped putting on shows in Saudi I'd start considering it. They only question is if they can refuse to honor the rest of the contract without someone getting the Khashoggi treatment. After what happened that one time Vince abandoned the whole roster over there I'm always worried something f***ed up will happen again and this time people will not be coming home.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2024 13:59:15 GMT -5
They only question is if they can refuse to honor the rest of the contract without someone getting the Khashoggi treatment. After what happened that one time Vince abandoned the whole roster over there I'm always worried something f***ed up will happen again and this time people will not be coming home. I'd love for them to be able to tell the Saudis to go screw, but let's not pretend they wouldn't retaliate. It's a difficult position, but they made their own bed (as far as if it's a factor in people feeling icky about watching their product).
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 13, 2024 19:50:17 GMT -5
Raw’s been better than Smackdown for a while, especially if you like in-ring action primarily. It depends: I like in-ring action that matters. I just don't think that's what WWE has to offer when it comes to TV, and certainly not of the WWE I've watched recently. Much of what I've read and heard the past few years about Raw is the matches might just be the least important thing that happens. And that makes sense, in a way, because WWE has to crank out 3 hour Raws every week, week after week. The matches just become time-fillers. SmackDown is a shorter show in comparison, and my assumption, and maybe I'm wrong, is that this holds true on Mondays nights as much as it does for Friday nights. Besides, I don't receive a channel that has Raw, and I haven't cared about Raw as an entire show to seek out recaps. At best, I only checked out a couple of Rock/Cody/Roman/Seth promos from Raw in the Wrestlemania 40 build-up, and one talking segment with Ripley and Lynch that I thought was pretty good. Everything else has been a pass.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 13, 2024 19:51:08 GMT -5
Obviously I'm sticking around. You're braver than I am.
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Post by Legion on Apr 13, 2024 19:56:39 GMT -5
Last year made me quit main WWE for a few weeks, but then Backlash drew me back in.
NXTY doesnt count. It's a separate continuity. I dont miss NXT.
This year, I'm all in. Genuinely haven't felt this excited about the product in years.
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 13, 2024 19:56:52 GMT -5
I thought the post-WM Raw was entertaining and I actually managed to stick with it the entire show. Will I be watching Raw going forward? Absolutely not. It's a lot easier to catch anything interesting the next day and three hours is still too long. I'll watch PLEs and stuff, but I don't think WWE is as "must see" as others do.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 13, 2024 19:58:51 GMT -5
I didn't watch Raw on Monday but a large part of me wants to keep going, but another thinks that if i never watched wrestling again after Sunday night, that I'd be perfectly ok with it. This is a good point worth emphasizing: it's okay to go cold turkey with wrestling. Not just go from WWE to AEW, or AEW to TNA, or TNA to ROH, or from ROH to NJPW, or NJPW to AAA, or whatever. But to stop, full stop, altogether. It's easy to forget that the WCW fans who stuck with the show didn't really transition to watching the WWF. They went away altogether. I've read speculation that fairweather Attitude Era WWF fans migrated to UFC in the early-to-mid 00s. WWE may be in a fattening up the goose period with its product, but it's fun to imagine where the new(er) fans of today might go when they (inevitably?) burn out on WWE TV. Other live sports like football or basketball? Or maybe video game streaming? I don't know.
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