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Post by Kalmia on Apr 15, 2024 17:02:31 GMT -5
I don't want either of them near the title. Been there, done that. Give me something new.
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Post by khali on Apr 15, 2024 17:07:41 GMT -5
Okay, so the entire premise of the thread and info about Danielson and Copeland is wrong. But aside from that, what a great thread!
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Apr 15, 2024 17:08:35 GMT -5
i think bryan danielson and adam copeland should start a tug of war with the title on the next episode of dynamite, splitting the title literally in two and candy should fall out of it.
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Post by Doo Doo on Apr 15, 2024 17:11:03 GMT -5
Are we gonna turn this into a thread where we photoshop Bryan and Adam onto different wrestlers?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 15, 2024 17:12:34 GMT -5
I assume OP meant in the main event title scene, and I can't say I disagree I like main eventers holding midcard titles, but Bryan and Copeland do bring in more viewers and having one of them as the champ wouldn't hurt Right now wouldn't make any sense, though, as that is clearly Swerve's belt at the moment I think we need to really ask what defines a "Main Event" though, Copeland and Christian was presented as a main event or main event adjacent feud, and Copeland then won the title, and is revving up to feud with Malakai Black which certainly isn't some "Random dude" Bryan main evented THREE PPVS last year, and the Ospreay match is certainly the other main event on Dynasty, it's the match people are going out of their way to see outside of the world title match I really can't say these guys aren't doing something they shouldn't currently be doing. To me, we just need to embrace the idea that a match doesn’t have to be for a belt and/or the last match of the night and it doesn’t mean that it’s not important. Match A for a champonship being more important than non-title Match B doesn’t make Match B not important at all.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 15, 2024 18:28:21 GMT -5
Ah, so this is the other side of the fabled “make new stars” coin.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 15, 2024 18:45:28 GMT -5
Ah, so this is the other side of the fabled “make new stars” coin. I get where you're coming from, but I think the op has a point in that Danielson and Edge have name value. If you build a show/title scene around that then new stars can be made through association.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 15, 2024 19:01:12 GMT -5
Danielson's final year retirement run bucket list year matches have been amazing and I want more of them. Give me more of them. Unearth some job guy Danielson saw on a fourth generation VHS of an All Japan show from '94 who he decided was actually an unsung indie hero he needs to work with, have the guy show up, only for them to put on an utter clinic that nobody could have seen coming.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 15, 2024 22:10:35 GMT -5
Danielson, who is a wrestler whose work I almost always enjoy, and Copeland, who is a wrestler I'm agnostic about but I'd say trends positively for me, seem like obvious choices. I'd much rather see a guy like Dustin Rhodes get a main event run. Hell, give him the world title. He just main evented Dynamite two weeks ago, in a match for the World Title You picked a bad time to stop watching I guess lol Maybe it will happen again if/when I check out AEW again. And maybe as a longer program, like if TK re-ran the Sting retirement playbook, but have Dustin put on the line his goal for becoming world champion. He seemed positive in this interview that he'll be wrestling for a while yet.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 16, 2024 13:38:49 GMT -5
Just those two forever, or?
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Post by chazraps on Apr 16, 2024 15:01:52 GMT -5
I think at some point Danielson should have had the title - he had a bigger peak the Punk, was a bigger star than Punk in WWE and means more to the target demo and casuals for longer than Punk if only for being around for longer so sliding him into that feud with Hangman instead would have accomplished more - and I think the only reason he hasn't had it is because he non-kayfabe doesn't want it.
He's someone who just knows how to click with any crowd, we've seen him become the biggest star in every promotion he's been in the last 20 years, so it wouldn't be out of the question to easily heat himself up to get to that point again and reach that massive star power peak. But, I just think he doesn't want to.
Copeland I think AEW has been great for really showing off more of his talents and making him a more compelling performer than his most recent WWE return run. The build with him has been just what he and the audience needs rather than him being suddenly thrust into the world title picture on some TNA "what's Corner doing in the Impact Zone" shit.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 16, 2024 15:03:45 GMT -5
He just main evented Dynamite two weeks ago, in a match for the World Title You picked a bad time to stop watching I guess lol Maybe it will happen again if/when I check out AEW again. And maybe as a longer program, like if TK re-ran the Sting retirement playbook, but have Dustin put on the line his goal for becoming world champion. He seemed positive in this interview that he'll be wrestling for a while yet. Man, you missed an amazing two promos from Dustin and Joe: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5cqZ1qu1M8 https://www.instagram.com/p/C5ctjYiObv2
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 17, 2024 1:43:31 GMT -5
I think at some point Danielson should have had the title - he had a bigger peak the Punk, was a bigger star than Punk in WWE and means more to the target demo and casuals for longer than Punk if only for being around for longer so sliding him into that feud with Hangman instead would have accomplished more - and I think the only reason he hasn't had it is because he non-kayfabe doesn't want it. He's someone who just knows how to click with any crowd, we've seen him become the biggest star in every promotion he's been in the last 20 years, so it wouldn't be out of the question to easily heat himself up to get to that point again and reach that massive star power peak. But, I just think he doesn't want to. Copeland I think AEW has been great for really showing off more of his talents and making him a more compelling performer than his most recent WWE return run. The build with him has been just what he and the audience needs rather than him being suddenly thrust into the world title picture on some TNA "what's Corner doing in the Impact Zone" shit. He's said he doesn't want it, but I'd have given him one of the Mox "cleaning up Punk's mess" reigns. Probably the one just after Brawl in. Not a long term plan, gets his name in the lineage and is used to create the next big champ in MJF. It's one of the times you could do a 1-1 swap and have basically nothing change.
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Post by daaave on Apr 17, 2024 4:07:15 GMT -5
That last Mox reign was very short as it was just to get in MJF. And that was fine as it felt like Mox had been champ forever anyway. Not sure it would have worked with Danielson having the short reign. You could have pushed their iron man match forward to Full Gear instead and have MJF win title there I guess.
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 17, 2024 6:40:54 GMT -5
I think at some point Danielson should have had the title - he had a bigger peak the Punk, was a bigger star than Punk in WWE and means more to the target demo and casuals for longer than Punk if only for being around for longer so sliding him into that feud with Hangman instead would have accomplished more - and I think the only reason he hasn't had it is because he non-kayfabe doesn't want it. He's someone who just knows how to click with any crowd, we've seen him become the biggest star in every promotion he's been in the last 20 years, so it wouldn't be out of the question to easily heat himself up to get to that point again and reach that massive star power peak. But, I just think he doesn't want to. Copeland I think AEW has been great for really showing off more of his talents and making him a more compelling performer than his most recent WWE return run. The build with him has been just what he and the audience needs rather than him being suddenly thrust into the world title picture on some TNA "what's Corner doing in the Impact Zone" shit. He's said he doesn't want it, but I'd have given him one of the Mox "cleaning up Punk's mess" reigns. Probably the one just after Brawl in. Not a long term plan, gets his name in the lineage and is used to create the next big champ in MJF. It's one of the times you could do a 1-1 swap and have basically nothing change. I'm not a huge Danielson fan and don't care about him winning the belt but I agree that he should have had one of Mox's reigns. I get why they gave it to Mox following the Punk issues but Danielson would have done the job well too.
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