hassanchop
Grimlock
Who are you to doubt Belldandy?
Posts: 14,788
|
Post by hassanchop on Apr 23, 2024 2:49:54 GMT -5
............................is Hulk dying? No, he's just turning into Gandalf. At least this is not happening to Hulkster
|
|
|
Post by Jaws the Shark on Apr 23, 2024 4:03:35 GMT -5
............................is Hulk dying? You know, I sort of wonder if it's not that he's dying or something, but rather that at seventy years old he's realised that he's no longer untouchable and is having to take stock of his life. Despite his enormous ego, I got the impression during the Gawker trial that he wasn't an especially happy man, and in the past few years he's had another marriage break down, Nick's troubles, and clearly isn't in the best of health anymore. I could be very wrong about this and giving him too much credit here, but apparently he got baptised in December, perhaps it's all part of that and he wants to make peace with his past. Perhaps not, I don't know.
|
|
Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
Is the #3 humanoid at best.
Posts: 5,484
|
Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 23, 2024 4:16:33 GMT -5
"A legend and an out of work bum look a lot a like, Daddy." -Little Enos Burdette.
|
|
|
Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 23, 2024 4:38:23 GMT -5
............................is Hulk dying? You know, I sort of wonder if it's not that he's dying or something, but rather that at seventy years old he's realised that he's no longer untouchable and is having to take stock of his life. Despite his enormous ego, I got the impression during the Gawker trial that he wasn't an especially happy man, and in the past few years he's had another marriage break down, Nick's troubles, and clearly isn't in the best of health anymore. I could be very wrong about this and giving him too much credit here, but apparently he got baptised in December, perhaps it's all part of that and he wants to make peace with his past. Perhaps not, I don't know. I usually don’t even say what I think about him on here, cause the better majority of comments about him are about him being a “liar” and “racist” (using quotes cause I’m quoting people, not cause they may not be true, idk).. but from the lens of someone who doesn’t know him personally, it does seem like he’s turned his life around. He was in a terrible, terrible place mentally during the divorce. Couple that with still probably reconciling what his son had done, and how Nick’s trajectory in life was going as well. In regards to Linda, imagine being married to someone that long then not too much later you see her dating a guy 50 years younger than you.. me and my wife divorced (we reconciled thank God) and we dated other people during that short time.. and any time we knew of someone else in our lives it was heartbreaking. Awful. He was drinking a lot back then too. Again, something I’ve struggled with (coming up on 1 year sober), and boys let me tell ya, a man who’s drunk/hungover all the time is perfectly capable of saying and doing things we would never say/think if he was sober. I’m just glad he seems to be doing better. We all have skeletons in our closet, and not a single one of us alive is a saint by any means. I just can’t bring myself to crap on the guy like most others.
|
|
|
Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 23, 2024 7:12:51 GMT -5
While I think a more sincere apology from Hogan would be nice, acting like "he does this oddly specific thing I thought of or he doesn't mean it" is an odd standard to be holding him to. I want to see how many hard boiled eggs he’ll eat. Eventually he’ll be sorry. This is my favourite post you have ever made
|
|
|
Post by salparadise on Apr 23, 2024 8:08:01 GMT -5
You know, I sort of wonder if it's not that he's dying or something, but rather that at seventy years old he's realised that he's no longer untouchable and is having to take stock of his life. Despite his enormous ego, I got the impression during the Gawker trial that he wasn't an especially happy man, and in the past few years he's had another marriage break down, Nick's troubles, and clearly isn't in the best of health anymore. I could be very wrong about this and giving him too much credit here, but apparently he got baptised in December, perhaps it's all part of that and he wants to make peace with his past. Perhaps not, I don't know. I usually don’t even say what I think about him on here, cause the better majority of comments about him are about him being a “liar” and “racist” (using quotes cause I’m quoting people, not cause they may not be true, idk).. but from the lens of someone who doesn’t know him personally, it does seem like he’s turned his life around. He was in a terrible, terrible place mentally during the divorce. Couple that with still probably reconciling what his son had done, and how Nick’s trajectory in life was going as well. In regards to Linda, imagine being married to someone that long then not too much later you see her dating a guy 50 years younger than you.. me and my wife divorced (we reconciled thank God) and we dated other people during that short time.. and any time we knew of someone else in our lives it was heartbreaking. Awful. He was drinking a lot back then too. Again, something I’ve struggled with (coming up on 1 year sober), and boys let me tell ya, a man who’s drunk/hungover all the time is perfectly capable of saying and doing things we would never say/think if he was sober. I’m just glad he seems to be doing better. We all have skeletons in our closet, and not a single one of us alive is a saint by any means. I just can’t bring myself to crap on the guy like most others. A great take. Thanks for sharing and good luck with your sobriety battle!
|
|
mcstoklasa
Hank Scorpio
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 6,936
|
Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 23, 2024 10:27:02 GMT -5
Hogan has outlived a LOT of his peers, despite all the roids etc. must make him reflect
|
|
tafkaga
Samurai Cop
the Dogfather
Posts: 2,115
|
Post by tafkaga on Apr 23, 2024 10:49:16 GMT -5
I always try to keep in mind that people are complicated. Most of us have said and done shitty things that don't correspond with the way we see ourselves or want to be seen by others. Most of us have faults that are more obvious and glaring to others than they are to ourselves. The people we tend to hoist on our shoulders are just people whose shitty words and deeds have not caught our attention. All I know is that humble, introspective Hulk is a guy I can root for. Stay on that path, Hulkster, and off the ignorant dumbass path.
|
|
|
Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 23, 2024 11:42:45 GMT -5
Hogan has outlived a LOT of his peers, despite all the roids etc. must make him reflect Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s.
|
|
mcstoklasa
Hank Scorpio
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 6,936
|
Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 23, 2024 11:50:25 GMT -5
Hogan has outlived a LOT of his peers, despite all the roids etc. must make him reflect Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s. Plus the lifestyle, the bumps and the injuries
|
|
Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
Posts: 41,495
|
Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 23, 2024 11:58:41 GMT -5
If Hogan offered up a real apology where he owns up to the garbage he's said and really seemed contrite about his words and the effect they had, I feel like most people would forgive him albeit with a lot of them, it'd (rightfully) take some time.
|
|
dav
Hank Scorpio
Posts: 6,030
|
Post by dav on Apr 23, 2024 15:34:30 GMT -5
I mean I’m a big Mick Foley fan but this really seems like it should be way way way way way further down the list of people he needs to apologise to Maybe he's doing it like Earl and picking them off at random from the list?
|
|
tirtefaa
Unicron
If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
Posts: 2,833
|
Post by tirtefaa on Apr 23, 2024 18:19:46 GMT -5
All I know is that humble, introspective Hulk is a guy I can root for. Stay on that path, Hulkster, and off the ignorant dumbass path. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, I want the guy to be the positive influence in the same way he came off on TV growing up. It's funny, I didn't really like Hogan growing up and part of that was his squeaky clean image. Even with the steroid scandal, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone from that era who wasn't juicing, outside of Samoans and Andre the Giant. So for me, there were just so many others who were more interesting whether it was Macho Man, Bret or Rick Martel. Those were my guys. That being said, as I got older I went back and watched a lot of old wrestling and really grew to appreciate much of the stuff you see between the moves a lot more, especially Hogan. That kinetic energy he had between the fans and himself is something I really wish there was more of in wrestling; being able to watch a 35 year old match and get excited because the fans are getting excited and being "part of the moment". Unfortunately it was around this time the Gawker stuff happened, and of course my newfound appreciation was tested by Hogan's stupidity. I agree, Hogan definitely seems like he was an unhappy man. Without trying to cut him any slack, he really strikes me as someone who wants to be the image portrayed, but his own insecurities hinder him from just accepting his path. He can't just slam Andre the Giant, he has to slam a 800lb Andre and Andre has to die shortly after that. He's been a pathological liar for so long that I wouldn't be surprised if he started convincing himself some of these things are real. Again, a man so insecure he quit WCW over Russo calling him bald. That said, I'm hoping that seeing his fellow travelers gone has helped him reflect on things, perhaps even make peace with any of those insecurities he had. I don't think he necessarily needs to make public apologies for everything he's done, but for anyone he has wronged, to make those amends, and be a positive influence for the remainder of the time he has on this planet. Hope he continues to Hulk Up and no-sell the bad Hogan.
|
|
Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
Is the #3 humanoid at best.
Posts: 5,484
|
Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 24, 2024 6:48:50 GMT -5
Hogan has outlived a LOT of his peers, despite all the roids etc. must make him reflect Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s. Didn't Hogan quit steroids in the early 90's? Could have been another lie of course.
|
|
|
Post by Jaws the Shark on Apr 24, 2024 6:56:45 GMT -5
Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s. Didn't Hogan quit steroids in the early 90's? Could have been another lie of course. He says he did, and I believe it because he became a lot leaner and less puffy then, but there was also all the pills and speed and coke in the seventies and eighties, and just the whole lifestyle of constant travelling and stress. There are a lot of others who it finished off at a much younger age.
|
|
|
Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 24, 2024 7:41:19 GMT -5
Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s. Didn't Hogan quit steroids in the early 90's? Could have been another lie of course. There is absolutely no way that Hogan quit steroids permanently in the 90s. Even if I was to believe he was off them after '92 - and I don't - men his age do not look the way he does just through healthy living.
|
|
tafkaga
Samurai Cop
the Dogfather
Posts: 2,115
|
Post by tafkaga on Apr 24, 2024 8:08:34 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan quit steroids in the early 90's? Could have been another lie of course. He says he did, and I believe it because he became a lot leaner and less puffy then, but there was also all the pills and speed and coke in the seventies and eighties, and just the whole lifestyle of constant travelling and stress. There are a lot of others who it finished off at a much younger age. He bulked up again around '98 so I always assumed he went back on them around that time.
|
|
tirtefaa
Unicron
If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
Posts: 2,833
|
Post by tirtefaa on Apr 24, 2024 8:12:11 GMT -5
He says he did, and I believe it because he became a lot leaner and less puffy then, but there was also all the pills and speed and coke in the seventies and eighties, and just the whole lifestyle of constant travelling and stress. There are a lot of others who it finished off at a much younger age. He bulked up again around '98 so I always assumed he went back on them around that time. His torso looked like an upsidedown chemistry flask around this time.
|
|
|
Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Apr 24, 2024 12:08:28 GMT -5
What was the context of these two being together? I don't recall Foley and Hogan ever sharing screen time.
That said, Cactus Jack in WCW was presented as a joke by 1994 and after he failed to beat Vader wasn't treated as a Main Eventer again in the company. To present him as a threat to Hogan wouldn't have worked in 1994 WCW. Just like it didn't work with Kevin Sullivan.
That said, I think Cactus would have pulled off the stable leader better than Sullivan did but only because Cactus was a bit taller and just as violent.
Sullivan just looked like a miniature Hulk Hogan when standing next to Hulk, but he was also the booker, so that added to the issue.
Now that said, a Foley/Hogan feud at Sumnmerslam 2006 instead of Foley/Flair and without the Melina arc could have been a good brawl at the very least and Mankind circa 1996 would have been a great opponent for WWF Hulk Hogan in 1991 with the same booking.
A feud that could have worked and very well if you play up Foley being crazy and Hulk having to fight against his own morality to combat someone so sadistic. Mankind and Cactus Jack as Heels for Hulk or even flip with with Face Mankind and Cactus fighting Hollywood and the nWo.
Part of me wishes there was a multiverse where the nWo with Hogan, Hall, and Nash with Bischoff would have invaded 1999 WWF going after Foley, The Rock and Austin. Say what you want with Vince, but I think the WWF could have made that work then.
|
|
mcstoklasa
Hank Scorpio
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 6,936
|
Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 25, 2024 19:24:18 GMT -5
Yeah I don't mean this to be offensive or anything but I'm shocked Hogan lived to see his 70s with all the sketchy stuff he must have been putting into his body during the 70/80/90s. Didn't Hogan quit steroids in the early 90's? Could have been another lie of course. almost certainly got back on them by the time the NWO got red hot
|
|