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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jul 25, 2007 16:44:01 GMT -5
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 16:44:45 GMT -5
Yes, but I doubt they did it on purpose. Also, aside from that riff the songs are totally different.
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 16:46:26 GMT -5
That's weird. How come the thread says 0 replies, but when I click on it my replies are there? I'm scared.
EDIT: Ok, it's not doing it anymore. Phew, I'm glad that's over.
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Post by twiggy101 on Jul 25, 2007 16:55:41 GMT -5
I don't think Nirvana intentionally copied Killing Joke. Killing Joke's riff is faster and sounds different.
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Post by Jock Ass on Jul 25, 2007 17:01:37 GMT -5
You have got to be kidding me. There's quite a few of those on YTMND (comparison pages). So what if someone was "influenced" by another song, it wouldn't be the first time someone used/stole another riff from another artist or something.
How exactly do you "trademark" a riff?
Then again, it would be like if I were to say that I own all rights to the letter "B", including to/but not limited to any/all music usage of said letter/note/tone (B-Sharp, B-Flat, and all octaves/ranges inbetween); and that anybody who uses it would have to pay a royalty fee or face prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.
Besides, it was bad enough that Cobain and crew had to pony up some dough since there was also a British band using the name Nirvana since the late 60's.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go talk to my attorney. Something about waiving all rights and privleges to my title match at Wrestlemania due to winning the Royal Rumble...
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 17:04:05 GMT -5
You have got to be kidding me. There's quite a few of those on YTMND (comparison pages). So what if someone was "influenced" by another song, it wouldn't be the first time someone used/stole another riff from another artist or something. How exactly do you "trademark" a riff? By going through the proper legal channels. |
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Post by Jock Ass on Jul 25, 2007 17:08:14 GMT -5
You have got to be kidding me. There's quite a few of those on YTMND (comparison pages). So what if someone was "influenced" by another song, it wouldn't be the first time someone used/stole another riff from another artist or something. How exactly do you "trademark" a riff? By going through the proper legal channels. So does that mean that Delores Rhoads (Randy's mom, and I think executor of his estate - I could be wrong) can sue Ozzy for the guitar riffs on Blizzard of Oz because a few them were on the first two Quiet Riot albums (not released stateside)? |
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 17:08:50 GMT -5
Theoretically. Er, well maybe. I have no idea who owns those copyrights.
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Post by Jock Ass on Jul 25, 2007 17:16:17 GMT -5
I'm thinking maybe Kevin Dubrow would own the masters, as he's the one who (mainly) produced the Quiet Riot: The Randy Rhoads Years album that Rhino put out in the mid-90's. Although, he did thank Delores Rhoads in the liner notes.
Or would it be Sony, as they're the ones who bought out CBS Records?
Or is CBS Records Japan (the label that released Quiet Riot I and Quiet Riot II) seperate from the Sony-owned CBS Records?
Damn, now I'm confused...
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 17:18:19 GMT -5
Usually whoever wrote the material owns the copyrights, unless they sign the rights away in a contract.
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Post by Jock Ass on Jul 25, 2007 17:24:49 GMT -5
Usually whoever wrote the material owns the copyrights, unless they sign the rights away in a contract. So then what happens in the case of a record label buy-out? Would that affect matters, or does that apply to contracts only? And would the contracts themselves be null-and-void, or would they be honored by the "new" owners of the contract (prime example: WWF buy-out of WCW)? (Sorry to sound ignorant/stupid...but this is actually somewhat interesting to talk about/discuss.) |
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Post by 333-333-333 on Jul 25, 2007 18:33:23 GMT -5
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IS YOUR BEST ENTERTAINMENT VALUE
~Negativland
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 25, 2007 18:42:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Kurt said he did or something. Come As You Are is still way better though. Better then Smells Like Teen Spirit too...
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Post by metylerca on Jul 25, 2007 18:49:17 GMT -5
Wats the name of the killing joke song?
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Post by bigHEADinc on Jul 25, 2007 19:01:45 GMT -5
Sometimes it can be simple as a tribute to a band they liked...
Look at Sum 41's "The Bitter End" and Metallica's "Battery"...
It's pretty much the same (musically) but I see it less as copying more of honoring (And lord knows that they were the best band to honor them at the MTV Icon presentation)...
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Jul 25, 2007 19:06:15 GMT -5
Wasn't this common knowledge 15 years ago?
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Post by Corporate H on Jul 25, 2007 19:09:19 GMT -5
Similar, but different.
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Post by The OP on Jul 25, 2007 19:31:59 GMT -5
Usually whoever wrote the material owns the copyrights, unless they sign the rights away in a contract. So then what happens in the case of a record label buy-out? Would that affect matters, or does that apply to contracts only? And would the contracts themselves be null-and-void, or would they be honored by the "new" owners of the contract (prime example: WWF buy-out of WCW)? (Sorry to sound ignorant/stupid...but this is actually somewhat interesting to talk about/discuss.) *deep breath* It depends. A song copyright is not the same as a recording contract. Usually only a foolish artist would sign away the rights to their songs as part of a record deal. However, in these cases if the label was to have somehow acquired the rights to the artists' songs, these could be transferred to a new label as part of a buyout, but only if that was the condition negotiated between the old owners and the new ones. *exhales* |
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 25, 2007 19:33:15 GMT -5
So then what happens in the case of a record label buy-out? Would that affect matters, or does that apply to contracts only? And would the contracts themselves be null-and-void, or would they be honored by the "new" owners of the contract (prime example: WWF buy-out of WCW)? (Sorry to sound ignorant/stupid...but this is actually somewhat interesting to talk about/discuss.) *deep breath* It depends. A song copyright is not the same as a recording contract. Usually only a foolish artist would sign away the rights to their songs as part of a record deal. However, in these cases if the label was to have somehow acquired the rights to the artists' songs, these could be transferred to a new label as part of a buyout, but only if that was the condition negotiated between the old owners and the new ones. *exhales* Is it wrong if I sell this post? Ahem. Where did you learn all this stuff? |
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Post by -Lithium- on Jul 25, 2007 22:15:23 GMT -5
Wats the name of the killing joke song? Eighties... |
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