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Post by joeman on Dec 29, 2007 17:34:58 GMT -5
Metallica is said to come out with a new album around next year(or next month). What style of music are they going to do and would the album bomb or not?
Mix feelings here. I think they are spending a lot of time studying their old work and making the album with a lot of thought, but there is also a thought that it might be like St Anger.
What is your predictions of the new album?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 29, 2007 17:41:26 GMT -5
it'll suck, they're too out of touch to make a good album these days.
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Post by Derk! on Dec 29, 2007 17:42:22 GMT -5
No matter how it ends up sounding, there's no way it can be worse than that pile of audio excrement known as St. Anger.
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Post by texaswhopper on Dec 29, 2007 17:42:25 GMT -5
They need alcohol again.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 29, 2007 17:48:31 GMT -5
I thought Load was exactly that, and I had no interest at all in St. Anger, so I really REALLY hope they can do better. I think they need to realize that there are fans that will always dig their old stuff (such as myself - I thought the Black Album and everything before it was fan-f***ing-tastic) and that is who they need to cater to.
I mean really. If I'm trying to get someone to see my POV about Metallica and say "This is one of the greatest f***ing hard rock/metal bands of all time!" am I going to play Re-Load for them, or am I going to play Master of Puppets?
If you said Re-Load, please run your face repeatedly into my fist. Thank you.
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Post by joeman on Dec 29, 2007 17:52:43 GMT -5
I thought Load was exactly that, and I had no interest at all in St. Anger, so I really REALLY hope they can do better. I think they need to realize that there are fans that will always dig their old stuff (such as myself - I thought the Black Album and everything before it was fan-f***ing-tastic) and that is who they need to cater to. I mean really. If I'm trying to get someone to see my POV about Metallica and say "This is one of the greatest f***ing hard rock/metal bands of all time!" am I going to play Re-Load for them, or am I going to play Master of Puppets? If you said Re-Load, please run your face repeatedly into my fist. Thank you. Agreed. The post-Black song I do love "Down the Line" though since Hetfield put more emotions to it than Bob Seager. Shame Cliff Burton isn't alive today, his bass alone can make Metallica sound good, it is even between when he jams with Kirk Hammett.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 29, 2007 17:56:12 GMT -5
I liked all their albums.
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Post by Nick Loves Dr. Pepper on Dec 29, 2007 18:26:49 GMT -5
Not going to argue with Black Album being the best but Unforgiven II and Devil's Dance are good songs on Re-Load.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Dec 29, 2007 18:45:09 GMT -5
St. Anger is actually the only Metallica record I don't really dig...and if I pretend it isn't by Metallica I don't really mind it.
That said, the new material they've released sounds amazing, so I'm definitely looking forward to this.
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Post by rubber johnny on Dec 29, 2007 19:01:58 GMT -5
i'll probably buy it out of curiosity, but honestly they stopped being good after they ran out of dave mustaine's ideas
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Post by MCMGM on Dec 29, 2007 20:20:41 GMT -5
Not going to argue with Black Album being the best but Unforgiven II and Devil's Dance are good songs on Re-Load. Devil's Dance is my favorite Metallica song, so I agree. And anyone who doesn't think S and M is a beautiful and insanely awesome live album needs shook therapy
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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 29, 2007 20:26:20 GMT -5
From the new songs they have played in concert, it sounds like this album will be nothing like St. Anger. The way Kirk Hammett described it as being the missing link between Justice and Black. From what i can derive from the The New Song (aka: Death Is Not The End), they do have that And Justice For All feel, but they have the polished finish that The Black album had.
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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 29, 2007 20:28:09 GMT -5
I read in an interview that Kirk Hammett said the new album has a middle eastern sound in some of it. So I'm not interested if that's the case. I mean, why the middle east for a sound? seems boring
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Post by jfbop37 on Dec 29, 2007 20:32:42 GMT -5
The way Kirk Hammett described it as being the missing link between Justice and Black. This statement alone has convinced me to at least listen to it. I also heard that Bobby Rock is gone from the equation, is that correct?
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Post by lotus on Dec 29, 2007 20:37:04 GMT -5
I must be the only guy on the planet who likes the actual song St. Anger.
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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 29, 2007 20:50:40 GMT -5
The way Kirk Hammett described it as being the missing link between Justice and Black. This statement alone has convinced me to at least listen to it. I also heard that Bobby Rock is gone from the equation, is that correct? Rock is gone, they have Rick Rubin now.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 29, 2007 21:16:36 GMT -5
the only thing that could be worse than St. Anger is if Metallica recorded themselves crying and hugging in therapy, then inviting Dave Mustaine over so he could cry too... oh wait.
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Post by akumashogun on Dec 29, 2007 21:47:56 GMT -5
I must be the only guy on the planet who likes the actual song St. Anger. I think it would be a better song if it were about half its length and I think that would be true for the rest of the album too. i don't hate St. Anger (the album) but it does make me cringe at several points. Well, I'm not going to go into it that much. As for the Load and ReLoad, I can understand where a lot of people were shocked and disappointed with these albums, especially at the time they were released. The Black Album was beyond huge in the 90's and Metallica was the mainstreams image of metal and like gods to long-haired thirteen year olds everywhere (think Beavis). It had been 5 years, and black t-shirted, long-haired metalheads had lived through the fall of butt-rock and the rise of grunge, Garth Brooks and Gangsta Rap and wanted our metal gods to deliver something that would blow everything else away. And we got and four guys with short hair and "Until it Sleeps." I think you can understand the disappointment. Once you get past that and actually go back listen them, you'll notice despite the style change, the band really did write some great songs (a failing of St. Anger). It's a looser, more relaxed style than the tight, complex, almost clinical music that came before it but still loud and heavy. They go great with the then comtemporary albums Deliverance and "Wiseblood" by should-have-beens Corrosion of Conformity. Anyway, I haven't heard any of the new stuff, but I'll listen to with an open mind. There's this mindset that after rock bands have been around a certain number of years, they can't make good new music anymore. Which is sad, and untrue. Look at Iron Maiden, they've put out some of the best songs of their career since their reunion with Bruce Dickinson. Also, Rush has always managed some great songs with each new album after all these years. St. Anger had a couple songs that showed promise, but really weren't developed fully. I guess, I'll just wait and see.
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Post by akumashogun on Dec 29, 2007 22:01:15 GMT -5
The way Kirk Hammett described it as being the missing link between Justice and Black. A bridge between Justice and the Black album, huh? Is that really possible 18 years after the fact? What would that sound like? I view Justice as sort of Metallica's equivalent to Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy. It pushed their sound and songwriting at the furthest limits it could go and what they did next was a big uncertainty. The Black Album is a different beast. All the complexity the had been building on since Lightning is gone. What was left has an album of music that while it still sounded like metal, and it was still heavy and scared old people, but it was also had a strange mainstream accessability to it. So what exists inbetween those two?
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Post by Loki on Dec 29, 2007 22:10:14 GMT -5
If the new songs they've been playing on their recent tours are a valid hint of the style of the new record, it's safe to say it'll be better than St.Anger. But that's not saying much... as pretty much anything is better than that godawful album.
I guess they'll try to find a decent compromise between oldish Metallica (around Black Album, sadly the days of Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are gone with Cliff) and new, quasi nu-metal, MTV friendly, Metallica.
As said, a step forward, but I'm not really expecting that much anyway. All the good bands from 20-30-40 years ago stopped having something interesting to say, and can only, at best, "rephrasing" something already said.
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