Victoria: Brickhouse?

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dagreenguy said:

mightykretzler said:

Well it's good to see that there's some people here who don't follow the preverbial flock and think differently.

To continue my rant:

She was a crappy face and a worse wrestler.

Although, she played the complain and/or rude female role to a T.

To this day, I still cringe when she's used to describe what is ideal in the women's divison. She was basically the female Cena with much less charisma and with the wrestling ability of Nathan Jones. Yet because she's "hawt" see gets a pass.

Lita was ten times the entertainer, wrestler, and champion Trish was. And she didn't have to hold the title at the end of her last match.

And she did the job and put over a younger wrestler at the end to boot, which at least says something about her willingness to do what's needed rather than what looks good.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

mightykretzler said:

dagreenguy said:

To continue my rant:

She was a crappy face and a worse wrestler.

Although, she played the complain and/or rude female role to a T.

To this day, I still cringe when she's used to describe what is ideal in the women's divison. She was basically the female Cena with much less charisma and with the wrestling ability of Nathan Jones. Yet because she's "hawt" see gets a pass.

Lita was ten times the entertainer, wrestler, and champion Trish was. And she didn't have to hold the title at the end of her last match.

And she did the job and put over a younger wrestler at the end to boot, which at least says something about her willingness to do what's needed rather than what looks good.

What gets me too is that people said that Trish was the women's division. Well yeah, because every women jobbed to her eventually. Just like the way they booked Cena. She would lose her title, then win it back within a week or so to hold to for five months again.

So look for Cena to go on a "injury"/vacation with the WWE title for three months.

[rocket]

I find it interesting that the direction of this thread is vastly different from the thread where these pictures were posted yesterday:

officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=WWE&action=display&thread=1169838689

[dirtydickraines]

I put her in a category with Luna and Jazz as some of the ugliest women in pro wrestling.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

Jazz isn't that bad either. She even has her good days.

[Faces rule!]

I'm in love with her this week

[lechuck]

Lita sucked. I mean she really blew.

She had zero charisma, a horrible nasal voice, couldn't do the basics like throw a punch, and botched damn near everything.

The only reason that POS got over in 2000 was because seeing a woman do a moonsault was a unique thing at the time.

Her "resurrgance" two years ago was due to real life heat for cheating on Matt.

And she ain't even that hot she looks like a man in drag with that squarejaw.

Anyway the reason Trish got pushed was the same reason Hogan got pushed, because she drew more than anyone else.
Though she is better than Lita in pretty much every way.

[dirtydickraines]

dagreenguy said:

Jazz isn't that bad either. She even has her good days.

You're jokeing right?

[Vinny McCool]

Ah. So there is a God. Good to know.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

lechuck said:

Lita sucked. I mean she really blew.

She had zero charisma, a horrible nasal voice, couldn't do the basics like throw a punch, and botched damn near everything.

The only reason that POS got over in 2000 was because seeing a woman do a moonsault was a unique thing at the time.

Her "resurrgance" two years ago was due to real life heat for cheating on Matt.

And she ain't even that hot she looks like a man in drag with that squarejaw.

Anyway the reason Trish got pushed was the same reason Hogan got pushed, because she drew more than anyone else.
Though she is better than Lita in pretty much every way.

None of Trish's offense was believable and she really didn't draw as much as she should have. If she really had a ounce Hogan's charisma her show would have lasted longer.

"She had zero charisma, a horrible nasal voice, couldn't do the basics like throw a punch, and botched damn near everything."

While Lita did have those problems, you could be discribing Trish as well. Including her infamous Ebonics.

Lita was different back in 2000. She could work. She didn't start as a super model turned diva, she was a trainer wrestler in Mexico. When she was with The Hardys, the crowd loved her.

And then she cheated. She went from a loved face to a hated heel. So she was successful in both places, unlike her "peer" Trish who bombed as a face.

Finally, I'm stepping my foot down guys. I've had it as a straight male. I'm embrassed by some of you. You mock certain Cena and Orton fans who are women because they think he's not. You hate the fact that the women cheered guys aren't the best workers. YET YOU TURN AROUND AND DO THE SAME THING! Or insult talented female workers because they aren't FREAKIN' VIDA INTERNETFANBOYGIRLFRIENDMCSLUTSLUT!

...Sorry, I had to rant there.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

dirtydickraines said:

dagreenguy said:

Jazz isn't that bad either. She even has her good days.

You're jokeing right?

No, I'm not "jokeing". Nor am I joking.

I'm sorry that my opinion isn't yours Oh Great One, but I stand by my words.

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dagreenguy said:

lechuck said:

Lita sucked. I mean she really blew.

She had zero charisma, a horrible nasal voice, couldn't do the basics like throw a punch, and botched damn near everything.

The only reason that POS got over in 2000 was because seeing a woman do a moonsault was a unique thing at the time.

Her "resurrgance" two years ago was due to real life heat for cheating on Matt.

And she ain't even that hot she looks like a man in drag with that squarejaw.

Anyway the reason Trish got pushed was the same reason Hogan got pushed, because she drew more than anyone else.
Though she is better than Lita in pretty much every way.

None of Trish's offense was believable and she really didn't draw as much as she should have. If she really had a ounce Hogan's charisma her show would have lasted longer.

"She had zero charisma, a horrible nasal voice, couldn't do the basics like throw a punch, and botched damn near everything."

While Lita did have those problems, you could be discribing Trish as well. Including her infamous Ebonics.

Lita was different back in 2000. She could work. She didn't start as a super model turned diva, she was a trainer wrestler in Mexico. When she was with The Hardys, the crowd loved her.

And then she cheated. She went from a loved face to a hated heel. So she was successful in both places, unlike her "peer" Trish who bombed as a face.

Finally, I'm stepping my foot down guys. I've had it as a straight male. I'm embrassed by some of you. You mock certain Cena and Orton fans who are women because they think he's not. You hate the fact that the women cheered guys aren't the best workers. YET YOU TURN AROUND AND DO THE SAME THING! Or insult talented female workers because they aren't FREAKIN' VIDA INTERNETFANBOYGIRLFRIENDMCSLUTSLUT!

...Sorry, I had to rant there.

While I won't say Lita was the most talented woman of all time, there's no disputing how overrated Trish was/is. The women's division was terrible during her long reigns, and has become signifigantly better with the focus going to the likes of Victoria, Melina and Mickie. From watching a number of matches, she has botched more on TV/PPV than all three of these women combined(in their WWE tenures). Don't doubt that; the matches prove themselves. Also of note, these three opponents have been known to not only A)Do the job to her, but B)Carry her in their matches. Once again, the matches speak for themselves. Now while she has been far from being the worst diva, it's pretty much impossible to prove that she hasn't become treated much better than she really is. Don't blame me for this conclusion, blame what was on Tv and PPV.

[TsfNugeFan]

Victoria, at least for me, is a definite butterface.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

I really don't think Lita is the most talented female wrestler ever. She had many flaws, as with many wrestlers.

But she deserved a better send off than what she got (but still letting a younger talent get the win). While Trish should have jobbed to Mickie.

[Banned Member]

dagreenguy said:

I stand by my mark hate of her.

I've never liked her as a mark and as a smark I care for her even less.

*Sharpens knife, and loads gun*

Nah just kidding . Hey different folks different thoughts.

[Boku AKA Da Green Guy]

I mean no offense, of course Merc. Just my opinion. Carry on with the Trish love.

[Banned Member]

dagreenguy said:

I mean no offense, of course Merc. Just my opinion. Carry on with the Trish love.

Ok not a pro......OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

I forgot about the GF again! Dammit!!!

[Corporate H]

Noice azz!!

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

I am one of the biggest Victoria fans around. Do I think she looks masculine? Yes I do. I wouldn't go as far as to say she looks like a man, but she definitely has a masculine look to her. If anyone thinks that Victoria should have Barbie Doll good looks, then they are completely missing the entire point of Victoria. Victoria is the powerhouse who beats the hell out of the pretty ones.

I suppose the argument could be made that they shouldn't have Victoria posing in these girly photo shoots since she doesn't have the look for it. Well to be honest, I think often times even WWE completely misses the entire point of Victoria.

[Banned Member]

lenny said:

I am one of the biggest Victoria fans around. Do I think she looks masculine? Yes I do. I wouldn't go as far as to say she looks like a man, but she definitely has a masculine look to her. If anyone thinks that Victoria should have Barbie Doll good looks, then they are completely missing the entire point of Victoria. Victoria is the powerhouse who beats the hell out of the pretty ones.

I suppose the argument could be made that they shouldn't have Victoria posing in these girly photo shoots since she doesn't have the look for it. Well to be honest, I think often times even WWE completely misses the entire point of Victoria.

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