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Post by Arturo Classico on Jan 28, 2007 15:03:10 GMT -5
Source: Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
WWE writer Dave Lagana pushed hard for Monty Brown to keep his name, but Vince wouldn't listen to his arguments and decided Marquis Cor Von was the way to go. Brian Gerwitz wanted Brown on RAW, but Lagana did manage to convince Vince to put him on ECW saying he could be a big challenger for Lashley and the top heel on ECW. Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay have been pushing for Bob Holly to be ECW's top heel and have convinced Vince that was the direction to go, but Holly may have suffered nerve damage in his elbow from previous surgery and will need another operation and there's a chance his career may questionable so Monty Brown is there to plug in that spot if needed.
Really this is f***ed up news if Holly is healthy and becomes the top heel? WHAT! Just shows you how lame ECW is right now! I mean at least with Cor Von he's comeone who can talk on the mic a sell a PPV. Holly just way awful! Honestly they should turn Punk heel and be like he was as a heel in ROH and that would be awesome. Or even Test would be better than Holly. Right now I hate Andrson and Finlay they are just idiots and must have they're heads up there asses. Finlay is probaly worried that Cor Von will be more popular than he is now! And Arn well he's just a dick!
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:04:56 GMT -5
Source: Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter WWE writer Dave Lagana pushed hard for Monty Brown to keep his name, but Vince wouldn't listen to his arguments and decided Marquis Cor Von was the way to go. Brian Gerwitz wanted Brown on RAW, but Lagana did manage to convince Vince to put him on ECW saying he could be a big challenger for Lashley and the top heel on ECW. Arn Anderson and Fit Finlay have been pushing for Bob Holly to be ECW's top heel and have convinced Vince that was the direction to go, but Holly may have suffered nerve damage in his elbow from previous surgery and will need another operation and there's a chance his career may questionable so Monty Brown is there to plug in that spot if needed. Really this is waxed up news if Holly is healthy and becomes the top heel? WHAT! Just shows you how lame ECW is right now! I mean at least with Cor Von he's comeone who can talk on the mic a sell a PPV. Holly just way awful! Honestly they should turn Punk heel and be like he was as a heel in ROH and that would be awesome. Or even Test would be better than Holly. Right now I hate Andrson and Finlay they are just idiots and must have they're heads up there asses. Finlay is probaly worried that Cor Von will be more popular than he is now! And Arn well he's just a dick! Why would Finlay be intimidated by Monty Brown there not even on the same brand..... They don't like overpushing young talent. Nothing wrong with that and Holly is getting more and more over And I'm glad Hollys finally getting a push. His Royal Rumble feud with Lesnar wasn't really his fault.... More of a booking problem as he was over at first. Hopefully Holly is healthy and gets a push. I really think he's decent in the ring and above average in the ring. |
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Post by Big Hurt on Jan 28, 2007 15:05:02 GMT -5
They pushed Holly to a title match against Lesnar a few years ago and was awful. The guy just seems so bitter and pissed at people but he just is not that good or entertaining IMO. He did have a good match with RVD, but that is it.
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:07:04 GMT -5
They pushed Holly to a title match against Lesnar a few years ago and was awful. The guy just seems so bitter and pissed at people but he just is not that good or entertaining IMO. He did have a good match with RVD, but that is it. If you don't remember they botched that feud. Holly was over at first and got thrown out of Survivor series really really early. He got almost no mic time and the feud was really just thrown together. He also lost to Brock in 6 FREAKING MINUTES. Holly is gettng more and more over nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2007 15:08:58 GMT -5
I have no desire to watch Bob Holly main event anything. Nothing against the guy I just find him supremely boring.
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:09:40 GMT -5
I have no desire to watch Bob Holly main event anything. Nothing against the guy I just find him supremely boring. I'd take him over Lashley and Test anyday. I'm a bit biased because I like Holly but Test and Lashley are just terrible. ESPECIALLY Lashley on the mic |
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 28, 2007 15:12:05 GMT -5
Yeah, Holly has so much main event potential, that's why so many people who were there for the Lesnar match decided it was snack/bathroom time as it was going on.
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Jan 28, 2007 15:14:00 GMT -5
I'd take him over Lashley and Test anyday. I'm a bit biased because I like Holly but Test and Lashley are just terrible. ESPECIALLY Lashley on the mic This is a devisive issue. I like Test, don't mind Holly, and hate Lashley. I don't think Hardcore is as bad as the rap he gets. Considering what the overall roster of ECW is, I think he should be a main eventer. If he were on RAW or Smackdown! then he wouldn't be. I think that's fair. |
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:14:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Holly has so much main event potential, that's why so many people who were there for the Lesnar match decided it was snack/bathroom time as it was going on. Again, the buildup for that feud was terrible. They did a great job at Survivor series but after that it was just bad. Holly got no mic time and wasn't built up as a threat. The match also lasted 6 minutes. His Royal Rumble thing isn't really fair to compare to. If you threw Monty Brown versus Cena with no mic time I'm sure that feud would suck too. |
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 28, 2007 15:15:45 GMT -5
Yeah, Holly has so much main event potential, that's why so many people who were there for the Lesnar match decided it was snack/bathroom time as it was going on. Again, the buildup for that feud was terrible. They did a great job at Survivor series but after that it was just bad. Holly got no mic time and wasn't built up as a threat. The match also lasted 6 minutes. His Royal Rumble thing isn't really fair to compare to. If you threw Monty Brown versus Cena with no mic time I'm sure that feud would suck too. No matter what, I highly doubt that the fans of Philly, perhaps the toughest crowd in the world to please, would buy him as a main-eventer, unless of course his promos started to be on the level of Mick Foley. |
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:18:50 GMT -5
Again, the buildup for that feud was terrible. They did a great job at Survivor series but after that it was just bad. Holly got no mic time and wasn't built up as a threat. The match also lasted 6 minutes. His Royal Rumble thing isn't really fair to compare to. If you threw Monty Brown versus Cena with no mic time I'm sure that feud would suck too. No matter what, I highly doubt that the fans of Philly, perhaps the toughest crowd in the world to please, would buy him as a main-eventer, unless of course his promos started to be on the level of Mick Foley. ECW diehards are the LAST people WWE/ECW care about |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2007 15:20:45 GMT -5
You can try and put the blame on WWE's buildup of the feud etc. but in my eyes the cause of the Lesnar/Holly fued and Holly's failure to get over with the fans over the past 13 years (Apart from the brief moment during his days as a super-heavyweight) can be summed up in 3 words
Bob.......fricking.......Holly
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 28, 2007 15:22:08 GMT -5
No matter what, I highly doubt that the fans of Philly, perhaps the toughest crowd in the world to please, would buy him as a main-eventer, unless of course his promos started to be on the level of Mick Foley. ECW diehards are the LAST people WWE/ECW care about I'm talking about the city of Philadelphia. Ask Donovan McNabb how easy they are to please. |
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 28, 2007 15:23:53 GMT -5
They should turn Lashley heel. So he can have a fued with RVD that makes sense and he could fued with Punk,Sandman,Dreamer,Sabu.
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Post by Ass Dan on Jan 28, 2007 15:25:03 GMT -5
The real answer is: push René Duprée. He is the answer to all of ECW's woes.
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:25:55 GMT -5
You can try and put the blame on WWE's buildup of the feud etc. but in my eyes the cause of the Lesnar/Holly fued and Holly's failure to get over with the fans over the past 13 years (Apart from the brief moment during his days as a super-heavyweight) can be summed up in 3 words Bob.......fricking.......Holly When was he truely given a chance though? He was mainly stuck on Heat, jobbing, or put in random tag teams/ His 3 chances were during the Holly Family ECW and the Royal Rumble. The Holly family DID get over, the Royal Rumble match with Lesnar had terrible buildup and he has been getting more over in ECW. He isn't exactly memorable (like a Val Venis who still gets pops) because he never had an outrageous gimmick but he is someone that you can buildup as a badass and he would get over. But a badass who keeps jobbing isn't going to get over no matter what (Which is what Hollys problem was and why he never got MAJORLY over) |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 28, 2007 15:26:21 GMT -5
Holly as a heel could be be a good spot main eventer (especially on ECW since they have 2 PPVs to sell on their own and the Big 4 a year so he is really only needed for TV main events). He's easily hate-able and if the face is strong enough, he can help make Holly seem more hate worthy.
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:27:02 GMT -5
They should turn Lashley heel. So he can have a fued with RVD that makes sense and he could fued with Punk,Sandman,Dreamer,Sabu. The only way Lashley is going to be heel is if he gets a manager. His voice sounds like it's coming from an accountant |
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Post by "IcePic" Rick Cobos on Jan 28, 2007 15:29:52 GMT -5
They should turn Lashley heel. So he can have a fued with RVD that makes sense and he could fued with Punk,Sandman,Dreamer,Sabu. The only way Lashley is going to be heel is if he gets a manager. His voice sounds like it's coming from an accountant Prince Nana? Coach? |
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Post by blackhart on Jan 28, 2007 15:30:37 GMT -5
Oh, and another reason the Holly/Lesnar feud was botched is because Holly was the face
Holly sucks to an incredible amount as a face.
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