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Post by Arturo Classico on Mar 8, 2007 19:07:54 GMT -5
With reading the post about TNA wanting to compete with WWE on Mondays(STUPID IDEA!) It made me think what was the better promotion. My pick is obvious, it's WCW. That promotion was so much better than TNA it's not funny and unfortunately stupid egos ruined it. That being said it still getting way higher ratings than what TNA is. TNA is a wannabe and will never compete I know some might blast me but whatever WCW was more of the alternative than TNA ever will be. Stupid gimmick matches wont get it done. Intreasting gimmicks and great storylines will. Which they don't have as of now. Anyway what do you think?
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Post by tommyvercetti on Mar 8, 2007 19:09:00 GMT -5
At it's peak...WCW.
But TNA is better than WCW before and after that period.
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Post by MGH on Mar 8, 2007 19:09:45 GMT -5
I liked TNA a lot last year, but at no point has TNA been in the same league of quality as WCW was in 1996-1998.
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Post by Kerry Von Erich is my hero on Mar 8, 2007 19:13:03 GMT -5
At it's peak...WCW. But TNA is better than WCW before and after that period. Disagree. During Russo's Reign-O-Terror, WCW ruled the school with hilarious gimmicks and angles like Oklahoma, Viagra on a pole, Mean Gene vs Mark Madden, Powers That Be, Se7en, and others. It is almost solely the entire reason this very website exists. TNA wont be remembered for those kinds of things. I mean, I hope it survives, but if it doesnt it will never be remembered like WCW was
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Post by tommyvercetti on Mar 8, 2007 19:14:59 GMT -5
At it's peak...WCW. But TNA is better than WCW before and after that period. Disagree. During Russo's Reign-O-Terror, WCW ruled the school with hilarious gimmicks and angles like Oklahoma, Viagra on a pole, Mean Gene vs Mark Madden, Powers That Be, Se7en, and others. It is almost solely the entire reason this very website exists. TNA wont be remembered for those kinds of things. I mean, I hope it survives, but if it doesnt it will never be remembered like WCW was I'll reword it. I PERSONALLY find TNA more enjoyable than WCW during that period.
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Post by antimcmahon on Mar 8, 2007 19:26:25 GMT -5
WCW. They did what no other company ever dreamed of. Beat Vince McMahon in some aspect of the wrestling business. Even though it didn't last.
But if not for that reason then because they had what many consider to be the best American promoted ppv in Great American Bash 96.
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Post by comahan on Mar 8, 2007 19:37:26 GMT -5
Dubya See Dubya.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 8, 2007 19:41:35 GMT -5
This isn't even a contest. The only time WCW was as bad as TNA was when Russo was in charge.
Wait a minute...
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Mar 8, 2007 19:54:11 GMT -5
This isn't even a contest. The only time WCW was as bad as TNA was when Russo was in charge. Wait a minute... No early Bischoff was pretty bad to. In fact even before then it sucked. Have you forgotten Black Scorpion, Cheatum, that golfer guy, arachnaman, Robocop, Uncensored, Lost in Cleveland, Evad Sullivan, Loch Ness, IT'S NOT HOT!, The Darkside BROTHER!, the revitalizing elbow... ect. In fact by sheer volume I'd say early WCW is worse than the end of WCW. That said TNA has not been around long enough to even touch WCW. It's been what? Five years? Give it a break, took 10 years till WCW put on something interesting. This isn't very fair. So yeah... WCW all the way baby!
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Post by hollywood on Mar 8, 2007 19:59:10 GMT -5
This isn't even a contest. The only time WCW was as bad as TNA was when Russo was in charge. Wait a minute... No early Bischoff was pretty bad to. In fact even before then it sucked. Have you forgotten Black Scorpion, Cheatum, that golfer guy, arachnaman, Robocop, Uncensored, Lost in Cleveland, Evad Sullivan, Loch Ness, IT'S NOT HOT!, The Darkside BROTHER!, the revitalizing elbow... ect. In fact by sheer volume I'd say early WCW is worse than the end of WCW. That said TNA has not been around long enough to even touch WCW. It's been what? Five years? Give it a break, took 10 years till WCW put on something interesting. This isn't very fair. So yeah... WCW all the way baby! When TNA stops sucking, I'll stop razzing them. ;D
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Post by Joekishi on Mar 8, 2007 20:08:25 GMT -5
I LOVED WCW so much, Rick Rude, The Steiners, Cactus Jack, Vader, 2 Cold Scorpio, Sting, Arn Anderson... Good god I loved WCW before Hogan and the WWF guys came in, I still liked it, but it didn't feel like the WCW i was used to watching it slowly felt like it was turning into WWF-ish... Oh and yeah TNA does have some of the biggest stars.. but Kurt Angle, Christian, Tomko, Rhino, dudleys and Steiner are not at the level of Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. Nobody is expecting them to be either, at least I hope not. None of those guys really have that OMG he's legit, that's THE TOP GUY, he IS wrestling vibe to them. Of course those kinds of guys are few and far between... I mean WCW didn't get the ball rolling until the nWo showed up and Hogan turned into Hollywood. There's a lot of the same kinds of practices TNA is following with Bischoff and his starts with WCW... Filming in Orlando in front of a free crowd Bringing in Cruiserweights Hiring guys from the WWE (difference was Bisch could afford to hire THE BIGGEST NAMES from WWF) so far they've followed him in those modes. But it's like the Underpants gnomes Step 1: Get second Hour Step 2: ?? Step 3: TNA biggest wrestling company in the world
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Post by Arturo Classico on Mar 8, 2007 20:09:59 GMT -5
This isn't even a contest. The only time WCW was as bad as TNA was when Russo was in charge. Wait a minute... No early Bischoff was pretty bad to. In fact even before then it sucked. Have you forgotten Black Scorpion, Cheatum, that golfer guy, arachnaman, Robocop, Uncensored, Lost in Cleveland, Evad Sullivan, Loch Ness, IT'S NOT HOT!, The Darkside BROTHER!, the revitalizing elbow... ect. In fact by sheer volume I'd say early WCW is worse than the end of WCW. That said TNA has not been around long enough to even touch WCW. It's been what? Five years? Give it a break, took 10 years till WCW put on something interesting. This isn't very fair. So yeah... WCW all the way baby! Good point early WCW wasn't great but it had some sort of focus. Where TNA dosen't know what to do. They don't understand booking. Trust me Russo isn't doing most of the booking because very little of Impact is Russo he is a far better writer than this and this stinks of Dutch Martel and Jeff Jarrett! It's almost as bad as Jerry Lawler's booking! Russo is above that.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 8, 2007 20:15:11 GMT -5
No early Bischoff was pretty bad to. In fact even before then it sucked. Have you forgotten Black Scorpion, Cheatum, that golfer guy, arachnaman, Robocop, Uncensored, Lost in Cleveland, Evad Sullivan, Loch Ness, IT'S NOT HOT!, The Darkside BROTHER!, the revitalizing elbow... ect. In fact by sheer volume I'd say early WCW is worse than the end of WCW. That said TNA has not been around long enough to even touch WCW. It's been what? Five years? Give it a break, took 10 years till WCW put on something interesting. This isn't very fair. So yeah... WCW all the way baby! Good point early WCW wasn't great but it had some sort of focus. Where TNA dosen't know what to do. They don't understand booking. Trust me Russo isn't doing most of the booking because very little of Impact is Russo he is a far better writer than this and this stinks of Dutch Martel and Jeff Jarrett! It's almost as bad as Jerry Lawler's booking! Russo is above that. He is...? Se7en "shoots" on Creative Control Buff Bagwell "shoots" on Creative Control Hulk Hogan lays down for Jeff Jarrett Viagra on a Pole Match David Arquette, WCW World Champ Vince Russo, WCW World Champ?
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Post by Arturo Classico on Mar 8, 2007 20:19:46 GMT -5
Good point early WCW wasn't great but it had some sort of focus. Where TNA dosen't know what to do. They don't understand booking. Trust me Russo isn't doing most of the booking because very little of Impact is Russo he is a far better writer than this and this stinks of Dutch Martel and Jeff Jarrett! It's almost as bad as Jerry Lawler's booking! Russo is above that. He is...? Se7en "shoots" on Creative Control Buff Bagwell "shoots" on Creative Control Hulk Hogan lays down for Jeff Jarrett Viagra on a Pole Match David Arquette, WCW World Champ Vince Russo, WCW World Champ? All of those were way more entertaining than what is happening in TNA. It shows you that TNA is so bad they aren't even good enough to create somewhat entertaining crap. Also you say Arquette was bad it garnerd headlines everywhere. Oh and Russo made sense from a booking point of view(no diffrent than McMahon becoming world Champion), Viagra on a Pole was funny, Se7en was no diffrent than VKM and in fact better becuase they didn't contradict themselves, oh and Hulk Hogan's arrogance caused him laying down for Jarrett; blame Hogan for that one.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 8, 2007 20:22:24 GMT -5
He is...? Se7en "shoots" on Creative Control Buff Bagwell "shoots" on Creative Control Hulk Hogan lays down for Jeff Jarrett Viagra on a Pole Match David Arquette, WCW World Champ Vince Russo, WCW World Champ? All of those were way more entertaining than what is happening in TNA. It shows you that TNA is so bad they aren't even good enough to create somewhat entertaining crap. Also you say Arquette was bad it garnerd headlines everywhere. Oh and Russo made sense from a booking point of view(no diffrent than McMahon becoming world Champion), Viagra on a Pole was funny, Se7en was no diffrent than VKM and in fact better becuase they didn't contradict themselves, oh and Hulk Hogan's arrogance caused him laying down for Jarrett; blame Hogan for that one. I'm sorry, but even the most idle and passing thought that for even a moment TNA is better than WCW was makes me laugh.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Mar 8, 2007 20:22:33 GMT -5
I agree, even if Vince Russo makes crap, but he can make some damn entertaining crap. When he makes something good, it's really entertaining good. I mean look at Austin/McMahon, he worked on that. He wrote This Is Your Life, Rock, the highest rated wrestling segment ever.
And the recent reports do say that good ol' Vinnie Ru has little to do with the writing right now. Makes sense.
You're supposed to muzzle him not having him write storylines without wrestling.
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Post by Garee on Mar 8, 2007 20:44:17 GMT -5
Definately WCW
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Post by Aya Reiko on Mar 8, 2007 20:52:19 GMT -5
{snip} Bringing in Cruiserweights {snip} But it's very Russo-like in the fact the X-Div is getting buried in stupid gimmicks and angles.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Mar 8, 2007 20:54:06 GMT -5
{snip} Bringing in Cruiserweights {snip} But it's very Russo-like in the fact the X-Div is getting buried in stupid gimmicks and angles. The only difference this time is that Dutch Mantell is booking the X-Division.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Mar 8, 2007 20:56:49 GMT -5
But it's very Russo-like in the fact the X-Div is getting buried in stupid gimmicks and angles. The only difference this time is that Dutch Mantell is booking the X-Division. It's still very Russo-like.
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