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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 6, 2007 13:19:39 GMT -5
I'd say Trish was the worst thing to happen to the division. Because after her, Vinnie was convinced that any model could be a Trish. And thus, many talented females were forced to do jobber duty and make these bimbos look good. if you hate Trish because she set the standard for hiring pretty models and expecting talent, then you should especially hate Sunny for starting the whole concept of females in wrestling being Divas instead of wrestlers or managers. Yet no one ever complain about Sunny.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 6, 2007 13:21:07 GMT -5
Chyna did a lot for women in Wrestling as far as overness. Women's division itself, not so much when she runs over everyone like their nothing. Only if she came back only to be
a. Squashed by Beth Phoenix or b. heel it up and taken down by a much smaller underog face.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Nov 6, 2007 13:34:42 GMT -5
Love the song and how it sticks out among the dance-club themes that all the other divas have, which adds to her menace.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 6, 2007 14:43:03 GMT -5
I really dig the music. It sounds like they did alter it somewhat, however. I don't know which I like better though
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 6, 2007 15:02:23 GMT -5
To me, Beth's music almost sounds like a super hero-esque song, almost as if they really are trying to play her up as Sailor Moon (props to whoever first thought that comparison up)
To put in my 2 cents on a growing topic: Chyna buried the women's division, but gave it a big boost, also. She was the most over woman that the WWF had had since Sable had done Playboy. She also gave rise to the question of how equal the women were to the men.
Trish carried the torch for women's wrestling for several years. She was easily the most popular women's champion in ten years, surpassing both Chyna and Sable. But she also raised the bar kind of high, and did indeed get Vince hooked on fitness models. She also left a huge void in her absence that is starting to now get filled.
Beth is probably the best all round champion since Trish left. She has the right combination of looks, talent, and charisma. She has managed to play the character she has been given up well, and get truly over with the crowd. Candice is good, make no mistake, but her in ring skills are still fair, at best. She has a ways to go before she is a Sherry Martel or Trish Stratus. I think a long term feud with Beth will be a great way to help further sharpen Candice's ring skills. Meanwhile, I like Beth and hope to see her for a long time to come.
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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 6, 2007 15:52:39 GMT -5
No, it's not an opinion. That's like saying it's your opinion that randomly murdering people is a good thing. Liking Chyna by herself, is an opinion. Chyna buried the Women's division like it was nothing. Now ask yourself again if she was really ever a good thing for it. Is that really the problem though? Or is the real problem that there should have been atleast some women in that time frame that should have been able to look credible against Chyna. I mean, the main reason why Beth Phoenix is able to wrestle the women instead of the men is because we actually have some credible women in the WWE right now that Beth dosen't have to automaticcaly squash. Every woman in WWE in 2000 was like Kelly Kelly except for Ivory. PS: Believe it or not, but there actually are alot of dumbasses out there that do act like that people's thoughts of randomly murdering people as a good thing really is just someone's opinion.
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Post by azz0r on Nov 6, 2007 16:09:08 GMT -5
Imagine a womens division made out of Beth Phoenixs and Chynas.
There must be strong, credibly women wrestlers out there for the WWE to hire.
No offense to the rest of the womens division, but bar Melina, none of them can hold a good 5 minute match.
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Post by r. on Nov 6, 2007 16:19:58 GMT -5
Megumi Kudo> Aja Kong>Amazing Kong>Beth Phenoix.
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