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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 11, 2007 2:19:04 GMT -5
Still, Cade and Murdoch have dominated the belts, and London is injured, seemingly, so they couldn't of dropped them to them. It's hard to say how much people normally would of cared, because they seemed disappointed about not getting any legends in the match. Poor Cody. He can only do so much to make people give a smurf about Holly. Dominated? More like they happened to hold the belts while the division became, like over on Smackdown, non-existant. I tell ya, the MVP/Matt Hardy tag program wasn't perfect, but at least it made that division matter again. As for Cody, well at least Bob Holly has something good right now instead of jobbing out on ECW. I can see your point. The Highlander's ship has sailed, but the tag division on Raw needs more gimmick teams. Too bad the Headbangers aren't around.
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Post by primetime110 on Dec 11, 2007 2:22:51 GMT -5
Rated RKO.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 11, 2007 2:23:30 GMT -5
I marked out for the obvious things that have been mentioned, but I also marked for the little things as well. The opening intro montage was so f***ing cool and brought back a lot of memories. Vince's opening of "Welcome to Monday Night Raw!" had me unintentionally marking for the memories of his mid-90s commentary. Sadly, after weeks of anticipation, Mantaur failed to make an appearance, and left me feeling empty inside.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2007 2:24:52 GMT -5
Oh, and I LOVED Lita and Kane trying to make small talk. "Yeah, it's been, uhhh, cold." That was damn funny. But I really didn't see Van Dam coming at all. That was a nice surprise. And Sunny looked great. I'm happy to see her looking so healthy.
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Post by rra on Dec 11, 2007 2:26:36 GMT -5
Dominated? More like they happened to hold the belts while the division became, like over on Smackdown, non-existant. I tell ya, the MVP/Matt Hardy tag program wasn't perfect, but at least it made that division matter again. As for Cody, well at least Bob Holly has something good right now instead of jobbing out on ECW. I can see your point. The Highlander's ship has sailed, but the tag division on Raw needs more gimmick teams. Too bad the Headbangers aren't around. Why is it that WWE hypes the hell out of a new tag team, then promptly forgets them? Why not keep up on the gimmick and make an actual division? Its like Deuce & Domino on SD!....that's a gimmick I dig, and they seemed like they could sell hotcakes for the division as the local heel jackoffs. Then boom, they don't matter anymore. Then again, look at years ago with the WWE Tag division. You had the Hardys duking it out against Edge/Christian, with Dudleys involved. Then late 90s, it was the Smoking Gunns, later the New Age Outlaws along with the Headbangers. Or God forbid, ole WCW. The Steiners, the Andersons, Harlem Heat, you name it. Sorry, rant over, back to topic.
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Post by hobo on Dec 11, 2007 2:28:30 GMT -5
Definitely Sunny. I haven't watched WWE in at least five years and I was really on the fence whether to tune in tonight until I heard she's be there. Too bad most of the crowd seemed to be too young to remember her.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 11, 2007 2:30:59 GMT -5
I can see your point. The Highlander's ship has sailed, but the tag division on Raw needs more gimmick teams. Too bad the Headbangers aren't around. Why is it that WWE hypes the hell out of a new tag team, then promptly forgets them? Why not keep up on the gimmick and make an actual division? Its like Deuce & Domino on SD!....that's a gimmick I dig, and they seemed like they could sell hotcakes for the division as the local heel jackoffs. Then boom, they don't matter anymore. Then again, look at years ago with the WWE Tag division. You had the Hardys duking it out against Edge/Christian, with Dudleys involved. Then late 90s, it was the Smoking Gunns, later the New Age Outlaws along with the Headbangers. Or God forbid, ole WCW. The Steiners, the Andersons, Harlem Heat, you name it. Sorry, rant over, back to topic. Yeah. I think a lot of it is that some of the highest ranked teams don't have a real sense of something holding them together. I think the writers are really bad about staying behind an over concept sometimes. I mean, Jimmy Wang Yang and Carlito manage to still get reactions after getting yo-yo booked so damn much, but they still don't get gold. Hopefully, Carlito has upped the anty tonight and will get to keep a push.
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Post by rra on Dec 11, 2007 2:31:55 GMT -5
Definitely Sunny. I haven't watched WWE in at least five years and I was really on the fence whether to tune in tonight until I heard she's be there. Too bad most of the crowd seemed to be too young to remember her. I'm not surprised since she was gone what, 10 years? Plus, she left just before WWF fully exploded into massive popularity of that Attitude Era. Its like Stanley Kubrick. What movies do people know him most for, 2001 or the equally awesome-yet-not-as-valued PATHS OF GLORY? I wouldn't be surprised that with RAW tonight, and how Sunny was put over as the first "Diva"...they'll book her for the HOF in the near future.
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Post by reevolutionj2005 on Dec 11, 2007 2:32:03 GMT -5
Hands down ... and I am surprised has not been talked about much yet.. the return of Matt Borne as Doink the "Evil" Clown
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 11, 2007 2:33:03 GMT -5
Hands down ... and I am surprised has not been talked about much yet.. the return of Matt Borne as Doink the "Evil" Clown They mentioned him as being evil, but are you sure it was Bone and not just Eugene as it sometimes is? If it is Borne, wow, he looks fit.
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Dec 11, 2007 2:35:00 GMT -5
IRS throwing himself out of the ring after selling out to Ted DiBiase. Hands down ... and I am surprised has not been talked about much yet.. the return of Matt Borne as Doink the "Evil" Clown Because he wasn't evil Doink?
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Post by rra on Dec 11, 2007 2:35:39 GMT -5
Hands down ... and I am surprised has not been talked about much yet.. the return of Matt Borne as Doink the "Evil" Clown They mentioned him as being evil, but are you sure it was Bone and not just Eugene as it sometimes is? If it is Borne, wow, he looks fit. Its not Eugene, because he got booked for a local wrestling gig, and he's "Former WWE Superstar"...
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Post by SassovsHart on Dec 11, 2007 2:41:25 GMT -5
Hands down ... and I am surprised has not been talked about much yet.. the return of Matt Borne as Doink the "Evil" Clown They mentioned him as being evil, but are you sure it was Bone and not just Eugene as it sometimes is? If it is Borne, wow, he looks fit. Pwinsider before the show said that Borne was going to be playing Doink at least. It seemed like it was him to me, as his mannerisms seemed like Borne's version of Doink.
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Post by reevolutionj2005 on Dec 11, 2007 2:43:02 GMT -5
JR mentioned him as Doink "The Evil" Clown after he was eliminated
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 11, 2007 2:56:43 GMT -5
JR mentioned him as Doink "The Evil" Clown after he was eliminated I know but it bothered me. If he was evil he would come out to the evil music
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Post by Reverend BTY on Dec 11, 2007 3:09:46 GMT -5
1- Steven F'n Blackman 2- Stone Cold's segment (I know he comes out a good amount but his recent times in the WWE have been more fun to me) 3- Sunny 4- Abe "Knuckleball" Schwartz 5- Pete Gas 6- Scotty 2 Hotty
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Post by phenomphan on Dec 11, 2007 5:36:10 GMT -5
I marked for: -Stephanie/Triple H kiss -RVD -Evolution theme -Rated RKO -Sunny -Trish -Lita -Gangrel -Al Snow -Million Dollar Man -Austin -Taker -Beer bash to end it all
I loved this show.
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Post by letigre on Dec 11, 2007 5:41:21 GMT -5
Stunned that I am the first to mention Bob Backlund. I thought he would never be in a WWE ring again.
Also, RVD was a shock, Trish and her more shredded abs, Repo Man (seriously, this guy was retired not that long ago).
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Post by Cyborg Franky on Dec 11, 2007 5:46:02 GMT -5
1. Lita and Trish basically beating Jillian 2. Gillberg ( I was basically dieing of laughter during this part of the Battle Royal) 3. Money Inc Reunion 4. Molly Holly 5. The Entire Opening segment (I was totally marking out when Steph and Triple H begin making out.
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Post by The Heff on Dec 11, 2007 5:46:39 GMT -5
RVD for me. I wasn't sure if Trips was gonna turn or not though. What he said after was funny. "See you at home. I mean, your brother's a gnome!" Brilliant!
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