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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 23:46:18 GMT -5
Now Three Man Band will never get back together . I mean, apparently Drew’s contract ends in May and hasn’t been renewed yet so…
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 23:39:02 GMT -5
Still stunned finding out he was the guy who “Million Dollar Arm” was based on and the best they could do was “foreign monster heel”. Like, Christ, really?
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 15:29:35 GMT -5
I could be reading Zarian's comment wrong, but I think he was saying that if Smackdown leaves Friday than Collision could move to that slot. Otherwise, everything stays the same. My other feelings is if Collision moves to Friday, I think they pair it with Rampage. Similar to tomorrow's show. I believe it’s already said USA will keep Smackdown on Fridays.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 13:14:07 GMT -5
Collision should move to whatever weekday is left once RAW, NXT, and SmackDown figure their days out. Saturday isn't a death slot but I think it could do better in a weeknight. It’s doing well for the slot it has but, yeah, better to see what Netflix, CW and USA decide before picking a potential new spot. And I can understand TK’s stance on loyalty if that’s the case. Especially for how much WBD has allowed for cross promotion and also creative access to programming and such.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 9:50:49 GMT -5
Apologiez was not saying you were assuming anything sorry. But yea right now it is a honyemoon period and we will see what 6-9 months down the line brings. All good. As long as we're not talking about it like we do the All Japan "partnership", then it'll be a massive improvement.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 9:43:12 GMT -5
I mean, EVOLVE was a talent exchange until WWE brought EVOLVE so, again, I need to be convinced. But also took 5yrs for that to happen and also the pest was in charge of everything and everyone knew that working relationships with other companies would only end in one way. We can't just assume either way that under HHH it goes the same way...it is all wait and see. Rossy only sold STARDOM to Bushiroad with the assumption he would remain in charge and be able to keep independently booking the show without their interference , I doubt he makes that second mistake again especially when this time everything is basically built from his retirement funds allegedly so making that mistake again would be way more costly for him now. I also didn't assume, I said I need convincing from how they work together. If after 5 years, we're not talking about Rossy taking a big pay day from an acquisition, great. I'll just keep side eying this whole thing until then. EDIT: Especially since HHH was very much involved in the UK company partnerships in all but name, so much so the guy who ran PROGRESS still works for WWE to this day. So like I said, going to need convincing from WWE's actions here.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 9:26:47 GMT -5
The big differnce here is that MariGold is not part of WWE...this would be just a working/talent exchange. WWE has as far as anyone knows no stake financially in MariGold , where as WWE basically owned EVOLVE. I mean, EVOLVE was a talent exchange until WWE brought EVOLVE so, again, I need to be convinced.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 9:20:15 GMT -5
Rossy's new company has a connection with WWE?! It's almost like we called this happening months ago!
I'd frankly need to be convinced long term this isn't just going to lead to an eventual EVOLVE situation where the company is sucked into WWE and becomes WWE Network/Peacock/Netflix material because, well, history and precedence and all that.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 7:26:26 GMT -5
I just got the triple bundle on Triller, which will let me watch that, DoN and Forbidden Door.
So I guess that's considered a yes.
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2024 2:01:14 GMT -5
Yeah, the 2015 Rumble wasn't just on Bryan losing. The entire thing was very specifically structured to make sure nobody but Roman came out of it looking any good at all. Probably why they did that weird shit with Rusev lying on the floor then coming back in just to lose, so that it'd be Roman easily tossing a non-entity as opposed to the people who had been dominating the match because Kane and Big Show might have looked decent the other way around. And Roman didn’t even look good. The only reason he eliminated Kane and Big Show was because they decided to bicker and argue and he had to be bailed out by his famous cousin when they attacked him. Nobody came out of that Rumble looking any way credible, not even Dwayne Johnson.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 23:57:22 GMT -5
I mean, I wouldn't say that. Disney rolled out the red carpet for him at CinemaCon just last week and Netflix has enough of a relationship to promote his newest Christmas movie later this year so it's not like that's gone from him. And all it takes for an admin change for him to work for Warner Bros again. The Christmas movie is actually with Amazon/MGM, I believe. You’re correct.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 14:51:52 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the Rumble where he was carted off for a bit before coming back in later on. Because that's what makes for a great babyface, them taking rest breaks. Coming from the same man that booked Hulk Hogan. no no no... he wasn't carted off that would be silly. He walked to the back on his own power... so he willingly took a rest break... Wow! That’s worse!
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 12:02:53 GMT -5
That’s a cop out though because he wouldn’t have done that nonsense if he didn’t get into a fight with Punk backstage. Would he have done it in LA or Houston or wherever else to heel on the crowd? We all know why he did it. Anyways I thought it was stupid and I’ve given way more thought to Jack Perry than I ever thought I would in the last few replies. Carry on lads. This is a weird criticism? He only heeled out on Chicago because of the Punk incident... yeah, like... of course. Why would you heel out on Punk randomly for no reason? That's just linear time Along with TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out's point, what were Chicago going to do after the tape came out and Jack Perry was going to wrestle days later? Sit in silence? Bounce a beachball? Of course they were going to react on both sides. Props to him for embracing it and not just ignoring it.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 11:51:52 GMT -5
They hit on the recipe for success around TLC 2015 when Reigns destroyed HHH after the TLC main event and went on to win the title the next night. Fans were huge into it. PHILLY fans, to boot. Then he dropped it in the Rumble match, that HHH won, which set up the most forgone and least desired Mania main event possible Oh yeah, the Rumble where he was carted off for a bit before coming back in later on. Because that's what makes for a great babyface, them taking rest breaks. Coming from the same man that booked Hulk Hogan.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 11:13:33 GMT -5
"I'll even do it with a poorly thought out terrorism storyline!" *Everyone else in the room leaps on him to stop him from confirming it* I can see it now Sheik Rock vs. American Nightmare Cody Rhodes is the main event. No, don't be silly, that'd be wrongly suited. Supreme Leader Chad Gable vs. American Nightmare Cody Rhodes, clearly!
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 11:04:39 GMT -5
Weirdos online: Forbes, what do they know? AEW's in the toilet!
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 10:42:17 GMT -5
In another FU to Vince, Trips is rushing to book the Los Angeles Coliseum and actually sell out "I'll even do it with a poorly thought out terrorism storyline!" *Everyone else in the room leaps on him to stop him from confirming it*
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 10:36:00 GMT -5
I'd suggest he's now on the board at TKO because he's likely managed to piss off a lot of Hollywood bigwigs with his manipulations. I mean, I wouldn't say that. Disney rolled out the red carpet for him at CinemaCon just last week and Netflix has enough of a relationship to promote his newest Christmas movie later this year so it's not like that's gone from him. And all it takes for an admin change for him to work for Warner Bros again.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 10:17:45 GMT -5
Big Boss figures like that almost always have a Hatchet Man to do the dirty work, so the Boss doesn't have to get his own hands dirty, and can say "Hey, it wasn't me, it was him". Never mind that of course, as the Boss, he has to approve the actions and has final say. Exactly, which was why it's weird when people like AJ Styles implied otherwise with Paul Heyman. You think he just fired a bunch of people and the boss couldn't do anything about it? That would get him fired faster than he would have with anyone else.
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Post by eJm on Apr 18, 2024 10:08:33 GMT -5
Cutting someone out like Vince has been for Rock and Cena is not easy. I'm going through a similar situation right now where I have an uncle in prison for something heinous but I cannot bring myself to cut him out of my life because of how much he has lost, deservedly so too. I hate what he did and he's currently not speaking to me because I told him that and that he earned his place in prison but I want him to know that when he gets out there will be someone there to try and help him piece his life back together if he wants to makes the changes necessary. I get that not everyone is like that and don't blame people that can do that, I honestly wish I was one at times. Trying to maintain that relationship is difficult to put it mildly. When you have decades of a relationship, where a guy is like a father figure to you, not being there when they are at their lowest isn't something you can always do. The other thing to add, and less about your own situation and more to do with the topic (even though I do understand what you mean), Vince's entire corporate strategy is having a cult of personality. He's the boss whose like the boys, hangs out with them, supports them with endeavors and takes advantage of that for his own means in a way he can put the blame on someone else. It's why half the roster have said they helped him in the business when, like, most people wouldn't say that about their boss. But most bosses aren't giving out an image of supporting the "boys will be boys" mentality in extremes Vince has. Like, look at how many times you heard in shoot interviews of ex talent "Vince liked me, it was Jim Ross/Johnny Ace/Paul Heyman etc who had it out for me and cost me my job"? Countless. Because, whilst it's easier for us to look outside and see, logically, that Vince did the deed or approved on the firing, the image you convey is someone who wants the best for you when he doesn't. Grooming might be an extreme word but it's hard for me to think of any word that lines up to what he's done. That doesn't mean if he has a new company, people will flock to it but it also doesn't mean that they won't.
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