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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 13, 2007 11:11:32 GMT -5
I prefer calling him Arab Bischoff, personally.
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Post by joeman on Dec 13, 2007 11:41:45 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for the people believing this NEWZ source, I really do.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 13, 2007 11:43:44 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for the people believing this NEWZ source, I really do. And I feel sorry for the people that have to go into every "NEWZ" thread to condescend to us and tell us how stupid we are for not automatically assuming everything that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie.
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Post by joeman on Dec 13, 2007 12:04:27 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for the people believing this NEWZ source, I really do. And I feel sorry for the people that have to go into every "NEWZ" thread to condescend to us and tell us how stupid we are for not automatically assuming everything that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie. NEWZ sites lately have been very inconsistent, and it isn't just recently. Back in 99, the NEWZ sites constantly was reporting that Kane will join DX with a green atire. Months later, nothing happened. Earlier this year Batista was said to break Undertaker's record, nope...nothing. An example is a most recent news. You remember Droz, right? Apparently he still has a job at the WWE despite two months ago people ask for Stephanie's head when she fired him. Plus, how are these reporters getting the news source? Are they using the same methods the pappazzi uses to get their dirt on celebrities? I don't how anybody can fully rely on them. Plus, watching wrestling is so much better if we didn't rely on insider news spoiling us.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 13, 2007 12:19:04 GMT -5
And I feel sorry for the people that have to go into every "NEWZ" thread to condescend to us and tell us how stupid we are for not automatically assuming everything that comes out of someone's mouth is a lie. NEWZ sites lately have been very inconsistent, and it isn't just recently. Back in 99, the NEWZ sites constantly was reporting that Kane will join DX with a green atire. Months later, nothing happened. Earlier this year Batista was said to break Undertaker's record, nope...nothing. An example is a most recent news. You remember Droz, right? Apparently he still has a job at the WWE despite two months ago people ask for Stephanie's head when she fired him. Plus, how are these reporters getting the news source? Are they using the same methods the pappazzi uses to get their dirt on celebrities? I don't how anybody can fully rely on them. Plus, watching wrestling is so much better if we didn't rely on insider news spoiling us. Here's the thing, though. Alot of news sources are run the exact same way. People rely on second and third hand sources to get their information. Newspapers relie on these sources especially for their major news stories. The celebrity news industry is ridden with sources going all over the place, uncovering where stars are, who they're (illegidly) been dating and things like that. I'll bring my sports example again. The amount of times newspapers and websites have been wrong about big transfers and managerial switches is more so then probably the times The Observer has been wrong about wrestling news. The case I point out was after Sven got fired from the England job and Scolari was the man contender for the job until the media said that he already signed a contract. Problem being, he was only approached right after the story got out and as a result, he pulled out of the negociations and the job was given to McClaren. I'll say it again, we give the Observer, The Torch, Illistrated too hard a time. Whilst I've been taking my Journalism course, it dawned to me that, to be quite frank, every news industry does the exact same thing. Why we give only Wrestling a hard time whilst most of us believe some teen star likes to sleep around because E! tells us they do is something I really don't understand.
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Post by SassovsHart on Dec 13, 2007 12:21:27 GMT -5
I'll say it again, we give the Observer, The Torch, Illistrated too hard a time. Whilst I've been taking my Journalism course, it dawned to me that, to be quite frank, every news industry does the exact same thing. Why we give only Wrestling a hard time whilst most of us believe some teen star likes to sleep around because E! tells us they do is something I really don't understand. Who in this thread that showed skepticism, said they approved of the methods used to dig up "dirt" on celebrities?
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Post by The Varsity Club on Dec 13, 2007 12:24:30 GMT -5
YAWN
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Post by joeman on Dec 13, 2007 12:32:09 GMT -5
NEWZ sites lately have been very inconsistent, and it isn't just recently. Back in 99, the NEWZ sites constantly was reporting that Kane will join DX with a green atire. Months later, nothing happened. Earlier this year Batista was said to break Undertaker's record, nope...nothing. An example is a most recent news. You remember Droz, right? Apparently he still has a job at the WWE despite two months ago people ask for Stephanie's head when she fired him. Plus, how are these reporters getting the news source? Are they using the same methods the pappazzi uses to get their dirt on celebrities? I don't how anybody can fully rely on them. Plus, watching wrestling is so much better if we didn't rely on insider news spoiling us. Here's the thing, though. Alot of news sources are run the exact same way. People rely on second and third hand sources to get their information. Newspapers relie on these sources especially for their major news stories. The celebrity news industry is ridden with sources going all over the place, uncovering where stars are, who they're (illegidly) been dating and things like that. I'll bring my sports example again. The amount of times newspapers and websites have been wrong about big transfers and managerial switches is more so then probably the times The Observer has been wrong about wrestling news. The case I point out was after Sven got fired from the England job and Scolari was the man contender for the job until the media said that he already signed a contract. Problem being, he was only approached right after the story got out and as a result, he pulled out of the negociations and the job was given to McClaren. I'll say it again, we give the Observer, The Torch, Illistrated too hard a time. Whilst I've been taking my Journalism course, it dawned to me that, to be quite frank, every news industry does the exact same thing. Why we give only Wrestling a hard time whilst most of us believe some teen star likes to sleep around because E! tells us they do is something I really don't understand. I agree that all forms of entertainment does the same thing, including politics. CNN and NBC were both misrepresenting the Benoit case, a lot of people here changed their minds about world news after the news coverage. Sadly, this is no different than how wrestlign news is being run and people are getting perceptions on certain people the NEWZ sites reports that are not true. The only insider source I listen to are shoot interviews by various wrestler, and while they are not 100 percent accurate, they have been in the business long enough to hold more weight than these reporters. Sandman, in his interviews, speaks on Stephanie, Johnny Ace, and Mr Mcmahon on a positive light, despite how the NEWZ protrays them as stupid, heartless businessman that is only looking out for themselves.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Dec 13, 2007 12:32:58 GMT -5
This story sounds completely made up to me.
1) Dave Kapoor / Runjin Singh is not an on-screen character because he just woke up one morning and said "I think I want some TV time". Just like every single other character, the McMahons certainly have control over every single one of them, who plays the characters, etc. If any McMahon had a problem with a writer playing Khali's manager, then someone else would be playing Khali's manager, plain and simple.
2) Stephanie referring to working for WWE as "job of a lifetime" sounds like something that someone would come up with in order to try to make Stephanie sound like a delusional bitch. I'm not a huge Stephanie fan or anything either, but I just get the vibe that this was made up by someone trying to get others to hate her.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 13, 2007 12:35:36 GMT -5
I think we give Wrestling news sources a hard time here. Yeah, we can't prove that they're true, but we can't prove they're false either. It's like with every other newspaper/news source in the world. Some make things up, some overexagurate the truth and some on rare occasions even just say the truth. Along with that, the entire structure of Europeon Football/Soccer these days relies on the tabloids with rumors and gossip. You could even say many have lost their jobs because of hearsay. A real new source would have to cite it's sources more regularly.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 13, 2007 12:51:16 GMT -5
I'll say it again, we give the Observer, The Torch, Illistrated too hard a time. Whilst I've been taking my Journalism course, it dawned to me that, to be quite frank, every news industry does the exact same thing. Why we give only Wrestling a hard time whilst most of us believe some teen star likes to sleep around because E! tells us they do is something I really don't understand. Who in this thread that showed skepticism, said they approved of the methods used to dig up "dirt" on celebrities? It's more of the case of noone really caring. I've seen plenty of times when people have stated that Celebrities are too rich and should be happy all the time that they're rich. A real new source would have to cite it's sources more regularly. Over in America, maybe, depends on whether they want to reveal themselves. Over in the UK, however, you don't have to reveal who Maybe it's not the best example, but it does happen. I agree that all forms of entertainment does the same thing, including politics. CNN and NBC were both misrepresenting the Benoit case, a lot of people here changed their minds about world news after the news coverage. Sadly, this is no different than how wrestlign news is being run and people are getting perceptions on certain people the NEWZ sites reports that are not true. The only insider source I listen to are shoot interviews by various wrestler, and while they are not 100 percent accurate, they have been in the business long enough to hold more weight than these reporters. Sandman, in his interviews, speaks on Stephanie, Johnny Ace, and Mr Mcmahon on a positive light, despite how the NEWZ protrays them as stupid, heartless businessman that is only looking out for themselves. You do have a fair point and I'll accept that. I just take the view that wrestling, as a fast paced industry, is always streaming full of ideas and things can change on the spot like when Kennedy was supposed to be Vince's son but then got suspended for 30 days. I'm not saying you should believe them, if you want to not believe them, that's fine with me. I'm just trying to say that people should be blaming these so called 'sources' instead of the news sites themselves because, at the end of the day, they're getting their stories from them.
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Post by Dolph Zalgo on Dec 13, 2007 12:56:05 GMT -5
I noticed Khali's manager partying and having a good time and found it hilarious. Why would Stephanie be pissed at him? I saw many heels come down to the ring and party together with the faces, even people involved in current feuds, who in KAYFABE should start attacking each other were partying side by side. If that is true Stephanie is just a stupid c***. That said, I CAN believe this to be true, but I take these newz with a grain of salt...
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Post by fg76 on Dec 13, 2007 13:03:14 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Stephanie fan or anything either, but I just get the vibe that this was made up by someone trying to get others to hate her. I got a bunch of real quotes from Steph that makes me hate her, I don't need fake ones. "I was so happy when Chris congradulated Hunter and ME when i got pregeant." (Raw is Benoit, June 2007) "We're a family here, and we'll overthrow the terrorists like my daddy overthrew congress." (9-11 show in 2001) With her its always ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME. They're the worst kind,
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Post by mcmxzyptlk on Dec 13, 2007 13:28:57 GMT -5
All things considered, even if it IS true, the article's still pretty irrelevant. But it goes to show you the sad truth:
Even a fan base which worships pissed off, tough, boisterous men beating the hell out of each other can have suckers for hot gossip.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Dec 13, 2007 14:35:02 GMT -5
From the various newzsites... He then asked who the f*** she was and the shit really hit the fan........
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Post by Kae on Dec 13, 2007 15:15:38 GMT -5
Kayfabe was pretty much dead during that beer bash. You had enemies drinking together when they normally fight on sight. I seriously doubt Stephanie would crap over him.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 13, 2007 15:38:37 GMT -5
Is Arab Bishoff really that much of a bad guy anyways? He's a translator to a foreign monster heel. Foreign Heels are only heels because they are not from around here (Rocky 4 logic), and monster heels tend to be amoral, in that they never learned right from wrong in their heathen culture. And Translator? He's not evil, he just tells you what the evil guy is saying.
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Post by Evil Jan Otto on Dec 13, 2007 16:16:44 GMT -5
Runjin laughs at the people that Khali beats up. (e.g. that backstage crewman (which gave us the debut of the Khali start-stop laugh) and Hornswoggle)
HEELORZ!
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Post by Lancers on Dec 13, 2007 16:28:40 GMT -5
I enjoy reading wrestling rumors for the sheer entertainment value as much as the next guy, but like with the Enquirer or any other tabloid that thrives on speculation, I take everything I read regarding rumors in wrestling with a grain of salt. I don't understand why everyone else can't go with that approach.
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Post by Go 2 Sleeeeeeeeeep! on Dec 13, 2007 16:33:06 GMT -5
If Umaga can drink beer and smile, then Ranjin should be able to.
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