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Post by machinegun on Dec 24, 2007 17:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 24, 2007 17:16:06 GMT -5
Title's do mean something, but they really are props.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 24, 2007 17:17:38 GMT -5
Ahh, he's telling the Japanese what they want to hear. Vince had probably just told him that he's jobbing to Yokozuna.
It's funny how people are way more concerned about "respecting titles" then they were back then. There used to be a Randy Savage promo on youtube where he was hyping a World Title match with Hogan, and he said the IC title was meaningless - he then spit on it and threw it on the ground.
If Jeff Hardy did that now the IWC would freak out, and fondly remember the glory days when the IC belt mattered (even though Savage did the same thing back in the glory days).
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 24, 2007 17:26:26 GMT -5
Ahh, he's telling the Japanese what they want to hear. Vince had probably just told him that he's jobbing to Yokozuna. It's funny how people are way more concerned about "respecting titles" then they were back then. There used to be a Randy Savage promo on youtube where he was hyping a World Title match with Hogan, and he said the IC title was meaningless - he then spit on it and threw it on the ground. If Jeff Hardy did that now the IWC would freak out, and fondly remember the glory days when the IC belt mattered (even though Savage did the same thing back in the glory days). let's not forget when austin said the ic title wasn't worth his time, and handed it to the Rock. then beat him up and threw the belt into the lake.
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Post by joeman on Dec 24, 2007 18:11:14 GMT -5
Seriously, what is the f***in point of the IC title, kayfabe wise? Does everyone fight for the belt wishing "they are second best in the world?" No, they all(kayfabe) want to be on top. I say make the IC title in a television title, and treat it with the same prestige as the World title since having the same function for a lower title doesn't make any sense imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 18:14:30 GMT -5
Didn't Hogan quit to try and become a movie star before that interview
And so weird seeing him do an interview without using dude or brother
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Post by Lino on Dec 24, 2007 18:30:36 GMT -5
Haha, this was really different from the WWF's Hulk Hogan at the time. He only said that because he was in Japan. He would've called the IWGP belt a toy if it was a WWF interview. Except it would've been more like, "WELL YA KNOW SOMETHIN MEAN GENE! THIS IWGP BELT, ITS JUST A TOY BROTHER!"
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Post by molson5 on Dec 24, 2007 18:45:15 GMT -5
Seriously, what is the smurfin point of the IC title, kayfabe wise? Does everyone fight for the belt wishing "they are second best in the world?" No, they all(kayfabe) want to be on top. I say make the IC title in a television title, and treat it with the same prestige as the World title since having the same function for a lower title doesn't make any sense imo. I think a wrestling promotion needs lower-tier titles, but they need to be better defined. The Cruiserweight title works - Paul London and Jamie Noble can compete for that because they'd have no chance against a Cena or Edge. But after that, it gets a little iffy. Intercontinental Title? Who hell wants to be champion of US/Canada/Mexico, when it means they have to defend that rather than go after the top title. The NWA United States Title made some sense back in the day, because the holder of that belt was the #1 contender for the world title. But otherwise, wrestling promotions haven't done a great job of defining these midcard titles.
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Post by Max on Dec 24, 2007 18:49:32 GMT -5
"many people you see quit and come back, quit and come back, i never did that"
little would he know.....
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Dec 25, 2007 13:35:25 GMT -5
Seriously, what is the smurfin point of the IC title, kayfabe wise? Does everyone fight for the belt wishing "they are second best in the world?" No, they all(kayfabe) want to be on top. I say make the IC title in a television title, and treat it with the same prestige as the World title since having the same function for a lower title doesn't make any sense imo. Because being second best in the world is still pretty great, any title is better than no title, people who win the IC title have a history of moving up the card, etc.?
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Post by s1mplemathematics on Dec 25, 2007 13:36:57 GMT -5
ahh man they take wrestling too seriously.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 25, 2007 13:41:54 GMT -5
The belt looks ridiculous, very toy-ish.
The title's prestige itself was probably helped by that last long reign though, as tedious as it got.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 25, 2007 16:44:39 GMT -5
I love how he says he's there to "wrestle, and not to bullshit". I really enjoy Japan Hogan.
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Post by joeman on Dec 25, 2007 16:46:07 GMT -5
Seriously, what is the smurfin point of the IC title, kayfabe wise? Does everyone fight for the belt wishing "they are second best in the world?" No, they all(kayfabe) want to be on top. I say make the IC title in a television title, and treat it with the same prestige as the World title since having the same function for a lower title doesn't make any sense imo. Because being second best in the world is still pretty great, any title is better than no title, people who win the IC title have a history of moving up the card, etc.? I don't recall Batista needing a secondary title to move up, nor many others. Hell, Hogan was World champion without resorting to win the IC title first. It is meaningless imo.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 25, 2007 16:49:07 GMT -5
Because being second best in the world is still pretty great, any title is better than no title, people who win the IC title have a history of moving up the card, etc.? I don't recall Batista needing a secondary title to move up, nor many others. Hell, Hogan was World champion without resorting to win the IC title first. It is meaningless imo. That's because when they got rid of the second-tier titles it became meaningless and hasn't really recovered since, but the US Title is doing all right I think.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 25, 2007 16:57:37 GMT -5
No, the IC was the result of Pat Patterson unifying the North American Title with the South American Title in a One Night Tournament in Rio that may or may not have happened. So it means you are champion of the Americas.
Seriously, it made more sense back in the day. Remember, World Champ didn't wrestle regularly, so the best you could see at a house show was the second tier title.
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Post by joeman on Dec 25, 2007 16:59:25 GMT -5
No, the IC was the result of Pat Patterson unifying the North American Title with the South American Title in a One Night Tournament in Rio that may or may not have happened. So it means you are champion of the Americas. Seriously, it made more sense back in the day. Remember, World Champ didn't wrestle regularly, so the best you could see at a house show was the second tier title. That is what I have been saying. Either make the World title so important that is only defended on PPVs, or make the IC title have different rules so it can be distinguished from the World title, say like it is mandatory to defend it every television night,
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 25, 2007 20:43:06 GMT -5
it would also help to keep the main eventers from getting over exposed.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 25, 2007 20:45:54 GMT -5
whats he talking about? this is not a toy!
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Post by ultimatekennedy on Dec 26, 2007 0:20:46 GMT -5
Oh sure it's a toy when HE hasn't had it for almost 10 years now with infrequent changes to Savage, Slaughter or Warrior
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