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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 28, 2007 23:42:39 GMT -5
I thought you were going to admit that this wasn't really your hair color.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Dec 28, 2007 23:50:21 GMT -5
he dropped the deadman gimmick and should have stayed that way.
as the ABA he had a personality...that was his yard if you messed with it, you would die. thats scary shit.
now that he's gone back to being the deadman, he's just kinda boring to me. he's lost alot of the mystique he held when he had the minitry of darkness.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Dec 29, 2007 0:02:11 GMT -5
I've always preferred the "American Badass" version of the Undertaker than the "Deadman" version of him. Sure all the supernatural stuff do look cool, but I don't know. I guess it's because the ABA personna made him more human and IMO he was better on the mic since he seemed to be more like his real self in that caracter and could show more emotions than when he's in his other role, but I wish he had stayed that way instead of going back to the supernatural stuff. Maybe I'm just one of few people that thinks like that since I know a lot of people love the Deadman version, but that's how I feel. Any Undertaker is good, but I like you and unlike most do enjoy the bad ass just as much if not more
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 29, 2007 0:06:59 GMT -5
prefer it if he pulled a double duty and he was one version on Raw and another Version on Smackdown but never make mention of the fact that it's the same guy.
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Post by damna on Dec 29, 2007 2:46:33 GMT -5
I've always preferred the "American Badass" version of the Undertaker than the "Deadman" version of him. Sure all the supernatural stuff do look cool, but I don't know. I guess it's because the ABA personna made him more human and IMO he was better on the mic since he seemed to be more like his real self in that caracter and could show more emotions than when he's in his other role, but I wish he had stayed that way instead of going back to the supernatural stuff. Maybe I'm just one of few people that thinks like that since I know a lot of people love the Deadman version, but that's how I feel. Agreed, and as mentioned before he did alot more technical wrestling as ABA (especially submissions.) I can remember himand Angle having some great matches.
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Post by OriasPool on Dec 29, 2007 3:34:06 GMT -5
not all Bikers are rednecks...
_______ I like both gimmicks.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Dec 29, 2007 4:56:18 GMT -5
I don't like ABA Taker, but not for a good reason.
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Post by Nan Flanagan on Dec 29, 2007 6:19:20 GMT -5
For me...all and any Taker is good Taker.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 29, 2007 16:21:46 GMT -5
Didn't care for ABA Taker at all and thought his short hair made him look really goofy. Deadman all the way, it's much cooler.
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Post by Godhand on Dec 29, 2007 16:39:05 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Biker taker. Mark Calloway is one of the most talented wrestlers alive today, he makes the undertaker gimmick work wether its a zombie, cult leader, or badass biker.
Take guess who my favourite wrestler is
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Post by bonedaddycool on Dec 29, 2007 16:53:45 GMT -5
The deadman entrance is actually the coolest thing to see live. While the biker did make him more human the deadman gimmick is really the only silly gimmick that has stood the test of time.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 29, 2007 17:59:55 GMT -5
Bikertaker was awesome. His mic work was awesome, his ring work was better and he just looked like he would kick your ass for looking at him wrong
He was so natural at it and with that gimmick he put guys over well (Jeff being the biggest example) and had some killer feuds (Flair).
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Dec 29, 2007 18:00:50 GMT -5
My favorite era of the Undertaker was the Ministry of Darkness.
What exactly happened that led to him being the Deadman again? I don't recall.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Dec 29, 2007 18:10:20 GMT -5
My favorite era of the Undertaker was the Ministry of Darkness. What exactly happened that led to him being the Deadman again? I don't recall. Kane buried Bikertaker alive, with his reason being that Taker used to be a monster like him, but was now just another person. Basically he was saying that Taker had no balls anymore. Loads of crazy shit started happening to Kane (ring shaking while he was in it, his pyro not working etc.), which led to a match at WM20, where the Deadman Taker returned.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Dec 29, 2007 18:12:34 GMT -5
My favorite era of the Undertaker was the Ministry of Darkness. What exactly happened that led to him being the Deadman again? I don't recall. Kane buried Bikertaker alive, with his reason being that Taker used to be a monster like him, but was now just another person. Basically he was saying that Taker had no balls anymore. Loads of crazy crap started happening to Kane (ring shaking while he was in it, his pyro not working etc.), which led to a match at WM20, where the Deadman Taker returned. OK. I remember now. Wrestlemania 20 was the last show that I watched for a couple years.
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Post by Bollywood Bunty on Dec 29, 2007 18:38:29 GMT -5
I liked both Biker Taker and Deadman Taker, hey and um ministry Taker was awesome too. Undertaker can make any of these gimmicks work.. too bad we don't have like 2 Undertakers or something
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Dec 29, 2007 18:42:17 GMT -5
Dead Zombie Taker was the best. thou I have to admit I like Biker taker for the fact that he did interviews outside of the ring. the whole he keeps kayfabe now adays is kind of weak to me.
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Post by Legion on Dec 29, 2007 18:46:56 GMT -5
I hated the Biker Taker gimmick. After years of being portrayed as an undead monster, all of a sudden he's just your average Harley ridin' redneck. It took everything that was cool away from the character. He should have just been Mark Calaway if that was what they were aiming for. You sir speak the truth.
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Post by Powder/The Professor on Dec 30, 2007 6:03:06 GMT -5
I've always preferred the "American Badass" version of the Undertaker than the "Deadman" version of him. Sure all the supernatural stuff do look cool, but I don't know. I guess it's because the ABA personna made him more human and IMO he was better on the mic since he seemed to be more like his real self in that caracter and could show more emotions than when he's in his other role, but I wish he had stayed that way instead of going back to the supernatural stuff. Maybe I'm just one of few people that thinks like that since I know a lot of people love the Deadman version, but that's how I feel. "The American Badass", in my belief was the absolute BEST version of his gimmick. It made him more dangerous in my eyes. I hope that he relives that gimmick again before he retires,
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Dec 30, 2007 8:14:58 GMT -5
I hated the biker gimmick. When you have one of the most recognizable and unique workers in the industry with a wildly successful gimmick, why should you give him a generic "tough guy biker" gimmick? Sure, it's more realistic, but come on, we're talking about WWE here. One thing that accomplished was that people went crazy when he returned as the deadman.
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