"Hollywood" Cactus Matt
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 25, 2007 1:07:55 GMT -5
He may not have made as large of a mark on the industry as some, but there's no denying that the "Loose Cannon" paved the way for the "Attitude Era" to succeed in mainstream professional wrestling. For that reason alone I think he should go in; let's also not forget his WCW Light Heavyweight and World Tag Team title runs, his inclusion in the Horsemen, and his being literally the hottest free agent on the market at one point, and I think that seals the deal.
What do you think?
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 25, 2007 1:10:55 GMT -5
He's certainly beloved enough, and definately acclaimed. I say yes.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Dec 25, 2007 1:11:30 GMT -5
If William Perry and Pete Rose are in, anybody's alright with me.
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Post by Jam on Dec 25, 2007 1:51:33 GMT -5
Yes. I'm a total Pillman mark. His work was genuis.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Dec 25, 2007 1:58:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Pillman was amazing. I am definitely all for the man being inducted into the HOF. I think it'd be a crime if he wasn't.
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Post by Loki on Dec 25, 2007 5:01:26 GMT -5
I wasn't following that much when he was around, but from what I see he was part of some good/intriguing angles.
I'm not convinced yet a HoF induction should be granted thanks to a couple of good years in the midcard... but taking a look at who's in, my objections won't stand.
I vote "yes but..."
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Dec 25, 2007 5:13:30 GMT -5
He was great in the ring, great on the mic, and he created a gimmick about 5 years ahead of its time. Why the hell not?
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Post by jordenisgood on Dec 25, 2007 5:17:34 GMT -5
I love Pillman, I think he's an incredible talent and he deserved to be much higher on the cards then he was at. I think given time he could have really been a breakout talent in the business.
Though, he wasn't and his career ended prematurely. That's no reason to give him a spot in the Hall Of Fame. In my honest opinion, no.
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Post by BxB on Dec 25, 2007 5:40:00 GMT -5
If HOF is based on actual talent, rather than the impact. Pillman should be an easy fit, but sadly his career was cut way too short by a sudden death and the ankle injuries. Had he been healthy after arrving to WWE with the "lose cannon" gimmick, his program with Austin would've had a bigger place in history.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Dec 25, 2007 14:06:22 GMT -5
How much did Pillman actually do in WWF?
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 25, 2007 15:47:00 GMT -5
How much did Pillman actually do in WWF? Not very much actually as he arrived in the spring of 96 but could not wrestle due to his motorcycle accident earlier in the year that decimated his ankle. From October 96 to April 97, he was off tv completely after another ankle surgery stemming from his accident. His high moment I guess you could say was beating Goldust at Ground Zero to win 30 days with Terri Runnels.
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Post by Ridley on Dec 25, 2007 16:08:11 GMT -5
He may not have made as large of a mark on the industry as some, but there's no denying that the "Loose Cannon" paved the way for the "Attitude Era" to succeed in mainstream professional wrestling. For that reason alone I think he should go in; let's also not forget his WCW Light Heavyweight and World Tag Team title runs, his inclusion in the Horsemen, and his being literally the hottest free agent on the market at one point, and I think that seals the deal. What do you think? Only if They word it like that and not because he died.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 25, 2007 16:20:57 GMT -5
Some people take the HOF too seriously - Pro Wrestling is not a competitive sport, so there's a million different ways to define who "should" be inducted. But at the end of the day, all it really is an occasional storyline prop, a very cool old-school night pre-wrestlemania, a chance to hear speeches from old wrestlers, and a chance to give them one more night in the spotlight.
To induct someone who's dead causes it's own problems. I don't think they should have more than one prematurely dead person a year - it makes the whole thing kind of a downer and puts too much emphasis on the negatives of wrestling on what should be a happy night.
Pillman was surely great, but I don't really see the point of putting him in the hall of fame over some other deceased wrestlers that make more sense there.
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 25, 2007 16:41:44 GMT -5
Some people take the HOF too seriously - Pro Wrestling is not a competitive sport, so there's a million different ways to define who "should" be inducted. But at the end of the day, all it really is an occasional storyline prop, a very cool old-school night pre-wrestlemania, a chance to hear speeches from old wrestlers, and a chance to give them one more night in the spotlight. To induct someone who's dead causes it's own problems. I don't think they should have more than one prematurely dead person a year - it makes the whole thing kind of a downer and puts too much emphasis on the negatives of wrestling on what should be a happy night. Pillman was surely great, but I don't really see the point of putting him in the hall of fame over some other deceased wrestlers that make more sense there. I disagree with you there as it really wouldn't put a downer on the night as we would be celebrating the person's life and career in the sport. Flyin Brian deserves to get in as he instituted the cruiserweights in North America in a big time company as he was big star in the NWA/WCW in the late 80's and early 90's. He then invented a character that you truely felt was off the wall and was gonna hurt someone and for that, he deserves to go in.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 25, 2007 16:46:47 GMT -5
He was great in the ring, great on the mic, and he created a gimmick about 5 years ahead of its time. Why the hell not?
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Dec 25, 2007 16:47:47 GMT -5
Why not, they let every other stiff into it. People, it isn't a serious hall of fame...
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Post by seano on Dec 25, 2007 17:02:29 GMT -5
As a fairly hardcore fan, I really can't think of anything Pillman did in his career besides "he was a Horseman" and "he died."
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 25, 2007 17:11:19 GMT -5
Pillman was a former multiple time Light Heavyweight Champion, a former US tag team champion and if you look at my sig, you'll see another belt he held with another future hall of famer
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 25, 2007 17:15:15 GMT -5
As a fairly hardcore fan, I really can't think of anything Pillman did in his career besides "he was a Horseman" and "he died." One of the pioneers of the lightheavyweight style in America, tremendous matches with Jushin Thunder Liger, among others, part of the revolutionary Hollywood Blondes tag team, multiple time lightweight and tag team champ, part of the Horsemen, had a brilliant gimmick years ahead of it's time that helped usher in what would become the Attitude era. I think that about covers it. Did I miss anything?
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Post by littlenaitch on Dec 25, 2007 17:19:16 GMT -5
As a fairly hardcore fan, I really can't think of anything Pillman did in his career besides "he was a Horseman" and "he died." One of the pioneers of the lightheavyweight style in America, tremendous matches with Jushin Thunder Liger, among others, part of the revolutionary Hollywood Blondes tag team, multiple time lightweight and tag team champ, part of the Horsemen, had a brilliant gimmick years ahead of it's time that helped usher in what would become the Attitude era. I think that about covers it. Did I miss anything? Nope, you pretty much gpt it all.
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