Post by thesunbeast on Dec 31, 2007 16:15:30 GMT -5
Last few years:
HHH vs HBK 3 stages of hell HHH vs Ric Flair Raw Flair appreciation night HHH vs HBK Royal Rumble 2004 last man standing
These were good.
This was good although far too long.
Didn't enjoy these personally.
Somone had great matches with Benoit and HBK? Shocking.
So he had three good matches in a year? And he's supposed to be the best in the company?
Decent match although very slow and plodding. It seems to me HHH mistakes lack of any kind of speed and being boring as "good psychology".
This wasn't a patch on the NYR match IMO.
These were all very very average IMO.
HHH vs Mankind steel cage SummerSlam 97 HHH vs Sgt. Slaughter boot camp match HHH vs the Rock ladder match HHH vs Austin vs Mankind SummerSlam 99 HHH vs Rock vs Big Show Survivor Series 99 HHH vs Vince McMahon armaggeddon 99 HHH vs The Rock w HBK as ref (HBK superkick the Rock) HHH vs Cactus Jack RR 00 HHH vs Cactus Jack hell in a cell HHH vs The Rock backlash 00 HHH vs the Rock Ironman HHH vs Rock vs Kurt Angle SummerSlam 00 HHH vs Kurt Angle 00 Armaggeddon 2000 (Austin kill HHH in car) HHH vs Austin 3 stages of hell NWO 01 HHH vs Undertaker WM17
I agree with these, and they were all pre quad tear. He was on fire in 2000 and deserved to win wrestler of the year. Since the injury he's been very average, and been more hype and looks than anything else.
HHH was injured most of 2007.
Also, you can be entitled to what kind of tastes you like in matches, but don't go saying because you weren't a fan of some of the matches that it means HHH dosen't have good psychology. I said earlier that not many of us even has the compitense to rate a WWE performer's psychology or how good they are at the actual techniques they use. Like I said, a "smart" fan only looks for "smart" things, and therefore, are no better than an average fan at rating matches.
Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 31, 2007 18:12:01 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but I put HHH in the same category as Harley Race from a historical standpoint. HHH is a bigger star from a bigger era, but they're pretty comparable.
Won a bunch of world titles, and had just enough decent-to-good matches to earn our respect. A very worthy choice to carry the ball, good mind, gets it, and knows more about the business than any of us ever could pretend.
But frankly, a grand majority of their matches and promos bore the pee out of me (with flashes of brilliance sprinkled in), and on the national (non-indy) scene they aren't even in the discussion of the best workers of their generation. Maybe it's just my taste, but I'd take guys Flair, Shawn Michaels, or Terry Funk anyday over HHH or Harley Race. Guys like HHH and Race can have classic matches with the top group, but aren't always a sure bet when carrying somebody that sucks (though sometimes they can/do, which makes them better than most).
I won't diss the guy over DA BACKSTAGE POLITCZ. Even though he works in the scripted carny world of pro wrestling, and married the boss's daughter, you can't indict the guy's talent or success for that. Henry Godwin could've married Steph, but he wouldn't have wound up as the company's consistently biggest star since Austin and Rock trailed off from wrestling full-time.
Being a good hand backstage, smart, connected, and good natured tends to elevate you to higher places in any profession...whether its WWE, or working with Shane Douglas and Justin Credible at Target. It's how the world operates.