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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 4, 2007 19:16:03 GMT -5
Jesus, this is getting more and more confusing. The new site is odd...less poetic/clue-ridden than the first (outside of the obvious Death Before Dishonor dates/locations), but it's clear that something's coming.
I'm taking Jimmy Jacobs off the suspect list, though; dude's injured, but he already had an angle going with Lacey before they decided to just give him time off. After the YouTube videos, they had him come out to the ring with her sometimes, so he's been around.
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Post by honsou on Aug 4, 2007 19:21:57 GMT -5
Jesus, this is getting more and more confusing. The new site is odd...less poetic/clue-ridden than the first (outside of the obvious Death Before Dishonor dates/locations), but it's clear that something's coming. I'm taking Jimmy Jacobs off the suspect list, though; dude's injured, but he already had an angle going with Lacey before they decided to just give him time off. After the YouTube videos, they had him come out to the ring with her sometimes, so he's been around. Yeah i agree with taking Jacobs if only because hes more self hating then anything. And it kinda seems after the Lacey thing he was going to turn face by getting rid of her soon. So while some of the imagery is Jacobs'ish hes probably not involved in it
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2007 19:58:35 GMT -5
My picks for the new stable (if it even is one) for right now.
Steve Corino Vampiro BJ Whitmere Adam Pearce Shane Hagadorn
I think there will be more people in this then in other stables and they will will play the numbers game.
Is Shane Douglas still with TNA? If not he could be interchangeable with Corino. His first ROH show wasn't exactly a success and maybe do with the other guys what he did with The Naturals. Make them succeed through hard work and contempt.
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Post by honsou on Aug 4, 2007 20:24:02 GMT -5
My picks for the new stable (if it even is one) for right now. Steve Corino Vampiro BJ Whitmere Adam Pearce Shane Hagadorn I think there will be more people in this then in other stables and they will will play the numbers game. Is Shane Douglas still with TNA? If not he could be interchangeable with Corino. His first ROH show wasn't exactly a success and maybe do with the other guys what he did with The Naturals. Make them succeed through hard work and contempt. Out of that list i can really only see Vampiro or Corino being right for the job, with Corino being the only one that seems to have a slight chance of it being. Shane Douglas is actually a interesting theory, and i never really thought about it, but i don't know this kind of thing just doesn't seem his style, then again i didnt think adam pearce had it in him to do a very dark promo but it seems like he did in that ppv. So anything is possible at this point.
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Post by drakulon on Aug 4, 2007 20:30:46 GMT -5
I still think the whole Yo(u)nkers thing is a red herring. If Kingston was a part of the group, he'd know how to spell the place where he is from. However, he's done an insane, messed up promo before (the drinking/I beat you or I die promo from a few months ago).
It would be a tremendous recasting of the Delirious gimmick if he was taking an Odysseus approach to things (acting insane but in reality, working to tie everyone together). It would catapult him from upper-midcard to superstar in two seconds... and also allow for one of your outsiders (Corino seems valid as does Raven if he can get out of his TNA deal, as Vampiro never really struck me as ROH material, Whitmere and Peace are goons, and Hagadorn is a chickencrap heel) to come forth as the true leader of the group in time.
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 20:34:24 GMT -5
I still think the whole Yo(u)nkers thing is a red herring. If Kingston was a part of the group, he'd know how to spell the place where he is from. However, he's done an insane, messed up promo before (the drinking/I beat you or I die promo from a few months ago). It would be a tremendous recasting of the Delirious gimmick if he was taking an Odysseus approach to things (acting insane but in reality, working to tie everyone together). It would catapult him from upper-midcard to superstar in two seconds... and also allow for one of your outsiders (Corino seems valid as does Raven if he can get out of his TNA deal, as Vampiro never really struck me as ROH material, Whitmere and Peace are goons, and Hagadorn is a chickencrap heel) to come forth as the true leader of the group in time. I think the Younkers thing is actually spelled correctly... Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. The chain concentrates on the middle and upper-class segments of the market. That seems to fit with the point they're making. Seems weird to mention the store though.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 20:36:25 GMT -5
I still think the whole Yo(u)nkers thing is a red herring. If Kingston was a part of the group, he'd know how to spell the place where he is from. However, he's done an insane, messed up promo before (the drinking/I beat you or I die promo from a few months ago). It would be a tremendous recasting of the Delirious gimmick if he was taking an Odysseus approach to things (acting insane but in reality, working to tie everyone together). It would catapult him from upper-midcard to superstar in two seconds... and also allow for one of your outsiders (Corino seems valid as does Raven if he can get out of his TNA deal, as Vampiro never really struck me as ROH material, Whitmere and Peace are goons, and Hagadorn is a chickencrap heel) to come forth as the true leader of the group in time. I think the Younkers thing is actually spelled correctly... Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. The chain concentrates on the middle and upper-class segments of the market. That seems to fit with the point they're making. Seems weird to mention the store though. well, with all the mentions of "The Second City" and what not and 161 being in Chicago, it makes sense
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 20:39:24 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2007 20:41:46 GMT -5
Anybody familiar with the Chicago area? Is Moline a suburb of Chicago?
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Post by Square on Aug 4, 2007 20:41:48 GMT -5
Are ROH holding shows in Philadelpha, PA on August 11th and Boston, MA on August 10th?
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2007 20:42:28 GMT -5
Are ROH holding shows in Philadelpha, PA on August 11th and Boston, MA on August 10th? Yes sir.
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Post by honsou on Aug 4, 2007 20:42:30 GMT -5
I still think the whole Yo(u)nkers thing is a red herring. If Kingston was a part of the group, he'd know how to spell the place where he is from. However, he's done an insane, messed up promo before (the drinking/I beat you or I die promo from a few months ago). It would be a tremendous recasting of the Delirious gimmick if he was taking an Odysseus approach to things (acting insane but in reality, working to tie everyone together). It would catapult him from upper-midcard to superstar in two seconds... and also allow for one of your outsiders (Corino seems valid as does Raven if he can get out of his TNA deal, as Vampiro never really struck me as ROH material, Whitmere and Peace are goons, and Hagadorn is a chickencrap heel) to come forth as the true leader of the group in time. I think the Younkers thing is actually spelled correctly... Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. The chain concentrates on the middle and upper-class segments of the market. That seems to fit with the point they're making. Seems weird to mention the store though. I think since its a upper middle class store its just going with the flow of the blog. A attack on the upper middle class, question is why? If you have a grudge against ROH and Gabe why attack a entire segment of the population, or maybe its trying to say this is how Gabe is, hmm interesting.
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Post by Square on Aug 4, 2007 20:43:26 GMT -5
Are ROH holding shows in Philadelpha, PA on August 11th and Boston, MA on August 10th? Yes sir. im gonna go and guess that the answer will be shown there!
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Post by Johnny on Aug 4, 2007 20:45:50 GMT -5
I think the Younkers thing is actually spelled correctly... Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. The chain concentrates on the middle and upper-class segments of the market. That seems to fit with the point they're making. Seems weird to mention the store though. I think since its a upper middle class store its just going with the flow of the blog. A attack on the upper middle class, question is why? If you have a grudge against ROH and Gabe why attack a entire segment of the population, or maybe its trying to say this is how Gabe is, hmm interesting. Is this over not being paid as much as guys like Homicide and Samoa Joe? (or at least part of it?)
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Post by honsou on Aug 4, 2007 20:47:42 GMT -5
im gonna go and guess that the answer will be shown there! We will probably get more info on what this is about, and the first time anything about this is done in a ROH ring. But in all likelihood we won't know the whole truth till the 3rd PPV taping.
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Post by drakulon on Aug 4, 2007 21:05:55 GMT -5
"Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. " -
Oh wow, I'm an idiot. I had no clue. Live in Ohio and never have seen one.
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 4, 2007 21:06:41 GMT -5
"Younkers is an department store chain in the Midwestern United States. " - Oh wow, I'm an idiot. I had no clue. Live in Ohio and never have seen one. Neither have I. I just randomly googled it and found the Wiki page. No harm, no foul.
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Post by drakulon on Aug 4, 2007 21:13:41 GMT -5
If this is Chicago-area based, any of the AAW wrestlers could also be a part... maybe ROH is seen as the more "yuppie/upper class" thing (building off of what has been said in this thread before), and the AAW guys are the more "blue collar" workers. It wouldn't be too much of a logical leap for an AAW person to have been a part of ROH for a small time... and the stable could still include Trik Davis.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 4, 2007 21:23:37 GMT -5
Are ROH holding shows in Philadelpha, PA on August 11th and Boston, MA on August 10th? Yes sir. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's Death Before Dishonor weekend. Hence, the warning on the new site.
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Post by The Line on Aug 4, 2007 21:36:45 GMT -5
it is indeed DBD weekend
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