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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 13, 2007 18:14:18 GMT -5
As horrible as that PPV was, it still entertained me more than WWE. I wouldn't normally say stuff like that (although it is true), but some of the people taking potshots here and saying "TNA IS DOOMED!!!" are starting to piss me off. And I want some of whatever you are smoking if you think any Angle/Joe match before this one was actually BAD. I don't smoke anything and their intial match was a short sloppy mess. The second match was good. The third was hurt by Kurt getting a concussion early into the match. Of course, those are my opinions.
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Post by slasher911 on Aug 13, 2007 18:18:56 GMT -5
*reading the last 2 or 3 pages* RANT COMING: God, I"m so tired of this crap with people here. Short minded, ignorant people who, if they can't think of an explanation in 5 seconds or less, they call it retarded, even though they don't listen to the announcers when they say important things and just make fun of them, don't look at the website for information and make fun of it, and in general, don't pay attention and wish TNA would repeat everything for them.......so they can complain about TNA thinking they're stupid for doing it, like they do with the WWE. Most, if not all, of the question and explanation you guys want are there, they're available. You just have to listen and not go right into the "TNA SUXXORZ" mode whenever something doesn't add up to you. So you're mad that other people have....different opinions? Maybe some people *gasp* just don't like the things you do?
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 13, 2007 19:16:17 GMT -5
*reading the last 2 or 3 pages* RANT COMING: God, I"m so tired of this crap with people here. Short minded, ignorant people who, if they can't think of an explanation in 5 seconds or less, they call it retarded, even though they don't listen to the announcers when they say important things and just make fun of them, don't look at the website for information and make fun of it, and in general, don't pay attention and wish TNA would repeat everything for them.......so they can complain about TNA thinking they're stupid for doing it, like they do with the WWE. Most, if not all, of the question and explanation you guys want are there, they're available. You just have to listen and not go right into the "TNA SUXXORZ" mode whenever something doesn't add up to you. So you're mad that other people have....different opinions? Maybe some people *gasp* just don't like the things you do? There is liking a different thing, and then there is being ignorant about something. The problem isn't people not liking TNA. The problem is how everyone has to know everything of every seconds about every angle that will ever be put on TV, and some on dark matches. Even with this desire for "Learning", though, people still go stuid when the info isn't right in their face 24/7. I can't tell you how many times people have called TNA or WWE stupid for something when the logical or at least reasonable explanation was said already, and they didn't hear it. Any time a question is posed, nine times out of 10, the response will be "Cause they're stupid/retarded/dumb in booking this" and less attention will be placed on the reason why. That is 5th grade logic. They rather go the easy way and bash things instead of doing something and find out about it. It isn't about personal choice, it's about ignorance, which a lot of people have in abundance, sad to say.
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Post by slasher911 on Aug 13, 2007 19:19:48 GMT -5
So you're mad that other people have....different opinions? Maybe some people *gasp* just don't like the things you do? There is liking a different thing, and then there is being ignorant about something. The problem isn't people not liking TNA. The problem is how everyone has to know everything of every seconds about every angle that will ever be put on TV, and some on dark matches. Even with this desire for "Learning", though, people still go stuid when the info isn't right in their face 24/7. I can't tell you how many times people have called TNA or WWE stupid for something when the logical or at least reasonable explanation was said already, and they didn't hear it. Any time a question is posed, nine times out of 10, the response will be "Cause they're stupid/retarded/dumb in booking this" and less attention will be placed on the reason why. That is 5th grade logic. They rather go the easy way and bash things instead of doing something and find out about it. It isn't about personal choice, it's about ignorance, which a lot of people have in abundance, sad to say. It's the IWC. They go batsh*t crazy when they don't know everything (see: Project 161). But there's a difference between being ignorant (the pro and anti marks) and just not agreeing with what's going on. I think most people just think what's going on sucks - not so much that it's confusing. But I'm not saying some people don't act like how you put it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 14, 2007 0:41:12 GMT -5
I didn't read the whole thing, but I will say I enjoyed Hard Justice.
Angle vs Joe wasn't one of the best matches, but like, they've had so many matches before. If they had the long build to that one big match, it would have been better. Cool cameo from Tha Trademarc there too, I didn't realize it was him until I saw it on here.
I thought it was a great show though. The opener was great, I was really surprised Lethal and Dutt won. Raven was doing some surprisingly athletic moves for being Raven. I still don't like that he's losing a lot though, but Kaz is good. I'm starting to become a big mark for him and his PWG stuff, but he definitely shows that he was the stand out in Seritonin.
LAX vs VKM was the surprise of the night for me. I marked for Kip James and his overly gay pants, and I think VKM really helped put LAX over as big time babyfaces in my opinion. That's the advantage of having a team like VKM who have so much experience. I never liked their war against WWE gimmick, but that doesn't mean I hated them both. Great match overall.
My favourite match of the night though had to be Rhino vs James Storm. I love choas and brawls when done right, and this was done to perfection.
Steiners vs 3D. Not the best technical match, but hey, it's the Steiners and Team 3D. These guys are main event quality tag teams, and TNA should run with them. I say one of these teams should be the next champs.
I was disappointed with Black Reign coming in from behind. Because they were debuting this new character with Dustin Rhodes, they should have made a big production out of it and have Dustin cheap shot Chris Harris during the match. That was a big disappointment, but the match got the point across. Good stuff.
Cage match was good, good to see Abyss is still around the top. And Angle vs Joe, well, the story was ok, but again, TNA killed the feud months ago.
Anyway, it was a great overall show. I guess there was a lot of bashing in the first few pages that I didn't read, but overall, TNA put on a great show. The only disappointment for me was the Black Reign deal, and only because they should have had Dustin Rhodes make a big production with his new gimmick instead of just throwing him in a brawl.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 14, 2007 0:50:49 GMT -5
*reading the last 2 or 3 pages* RANT COMING: God, I"m so tired of this crap with people here. Short minded, ignorant people who, if they can't think of an explanation in 5 seconds or less, they call it retarded, even though they don't listen to the announcers when they say important things and just make fun of them, don't look at the website for information and make fun of it, and in general, don't pay attention and wish TNA would repeat everything for them.......so they can complain about TNA thinking they're stupid for doing it, like they do with the WWE. Most, if not all, of the question and explanation you guys want are there, they're available. You just have to listen and not go right into the "TNA SUXXORZ" mode whenever something doesn't add up to you. In the words of Andrew Is Good, settle down there angry bear,lol. How exactly am I ignorant for seeing Angle's wife turn on Joe for weeks now? It's woah there angry bear , lol. And like, just because there may be an explanation, doesn't take away from how dumb it may be. The whole thing with the belts was dumb, because they were used as property to bet instead of titles to win. Hell, you can explain the logic and reasoning behind David Arquette winning the World Title, it's still gonna be dumb. And there's also a reason the commentators are made fun of. Can you imagine if real life was like that. Mike Tenay: DDub, is he making fun of our commentary. Don West: If he is, then that man has NO SOUL!!!! Something like that, right in the middle of a post.
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Post by x on Aug 14, 2007 4:06:24 GMT -5
In the words of Andrew Is Good, settle down there angry bear,lol. How exactly am I ignorant for seeing Angle's wife turn on Joe for weeks now? It's woah there angry bear , lol. And like, just because there may be an explanation, doesn't take away from how dumb it may be. The whole thing with the belts was dumb, because they were used as property to bet instead of titles to win. Hell, you can explain the logic and reasoning behind David Arquette winning the World Title, it's still gonna be dumb. And there's also a reason the commentators are made fun of. Can you imagine if real life was like that. Mike Tenay: DDub, is he making fun of our commentary. Don West: If he is, then that man has NO SOUL!!!! Something like that, right in the middle of a post. I agree. Tenay: He's agreeing! West: BALD BULL JUST AGREED WITH ANDREW IS GOOD! They just interrupt promos Tenay: I interrupt promos! and scream obvious things. West: I'M SCREAMING THE OBVIOUS!
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