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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2007 14:14:47 GMT -5
On the last Smackdown, I saw two guys wrestle for the right to fight a midget, a basketball game and an 85 year old in a bikini.
I don't get how TNA somehow gets labeled as having "Teh worzt b00king eva"
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 27, 2007 14:16:40 GMT -5
The booking is generally equally terrible. The difference is, WWE usually gets praised for terrible booking somehow, while TNA gets crapped on for it.
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Post by poi zen rana on Aug 27, 2007 14:16:51 GMT -5
here is a little test to let you know if something is awesome or not.
if wwe does it, it is funny clever and fun to watch
if tna does it, it is stupid wrestle crap and russo wrote it
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 27, 2007 14:22:23 GMT -5
here is a little test to let you know if something is awesome or not. if wwe does it, it is funny clever and fun to watch if tna does it, it is stupid wrestle crap and russo wrote it Here's the thing...I think WWE and TNA both make a lot of dumb decisions booking wise. I said so earlier in the thread, in fact. However, the reason I crap on TNA's booking decisions while I tend to not say anything about WWE's (unless I'm really pissy...and don't mistake me, I haven't praised a major WWE storyline since like Mania), is that a. I want TNA to thrive and prosper and b. I don't think TNA has a lot of wiggle room when it comes to making mistakes since they're so much smaller than the WWE. I think (or hope) that a lot of the people who continually post in the TNA threads feel the same way.
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Post by Randy Orton's Bitch on Aug 27, 2007 14:29:48 GMT -5
They both suck. There I said it.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Aug 27, 2007 14:33:35 GMT -5
I'd have to say TNA right now.
The WWE has been boring lately, but occasionally they pick up on something that's good. I will admit that things like Team RKO or Mr. McMahon's Child interest me and have me tune in. Could they be doing better? Oh yes, but at least they are going somewhere.
Also, you have to consider what situation they're in. ECW's champion was supposed to be He Who Must Not Be Named. Triple H, Edge, Batista, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Kennedy, Eddie, have all been knocked out at inappropriate times in their pushes.
What excuse does TNA have? At least Cena has a future. Angle is no longer in his prime and he has ALL OF THEIR TITLES. Samoa Joe, who should be their future, has been jobbed out and wants to quit. Everytime you think they got something that can catch fire, they throw it away. Look at Paparazzi Productions. Shelley and Nash were gold, they could have been a great team. Then they have the PLC or whatever which SHOULD have led to a feud, but didn't really at all. Then they make Jay Lethal a Macho Man clone and by that time I lost interest.
When WWE finds a nugget they milk it even though they fail to strike gold. When TNA finds a nugget they throw it away.
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Post by poi zen rana on Aug 27, 2007 15:07:32 GMT -5
mr. mediocre put it best
wwe gets cut a ton of slack just because they are so big. if this was nameless indie fed a vs nameless indie fed b each booking in the same style the results of the poll would be a lot closer.
as far as cena's future vs kurt angle's future goes of course cena has more left in his career. but even if kurt is the same old angle he was i still find his wrestling skills to be good and i enjoy watching him and believe him to be a more credible dominant champion than i do cena. now if angle was dominating the belt for three years then we could talk about wasting young talent.
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Post by hollywood on Aug 27, 2007 15:10:36 GMT -5
mr. mediocre put it best wwe gets cut a ton of slack just because they are so big. if this was nameless indie fed a vs nameless indie fed b each booking in the same style the results of the poll would be a lot closer. as far as cena's future vs kurt angle's future goes of course cena has more left in his career. but even if kurt is the same old angle he was i still find his wrestling skills to be good and i enjoy watching him and believe him to be a more credible dominant champion than i do cena. now if angle was dominating the belt for three years then we could talk about wasting young talent. This is a good point. This is really a bit of an unfair comparison since WWE has three shows that act as seperate entitites. While they all tend to follow the general wrestling booking mentality of the WWE in general, they do have different styles. If one show sucks, there's always two others to fall back on. TNA doesn't have that luxury. They have one show. And if Impact sucks, TNA, as a whole, sucks.
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Post by Smark on Aug 27, 2007 15:58:45 GMT -5
I thought TNA Hard Justice was the worst PPV I've seen in years... And then I watched Summerslam. There are so many inherent, misguided problems with WWE's overall booking, TV writing, and direction it makes TNA look like a fun little insignificent wreck in comparison. I know that Kurt Angle has all of TNA's belts, but still, he's Kurt Angle (even though he's in TNA). If TNA had their own identical WWE equivalents of Great Khali, John Cena, John Morrison, Hornswaggle, Umaga, Cade & Murdoch, and Deuce & Domino controlling their belts...it seems like some on here would go apecrap and say TNA would go out of business in 3 DAYZEZ!!!1!. For example, if their title situation were as bad as WWE (in comparison), the equivalents in TNA's current title situation would be something like... Smackdown Champ: The untalented Test (in place of the untalented Khali). World Champ: Ron Killings for a year and counting (in place of Cena). ECW Champ: Bobby Roode (in place of John Morrison). Cruiserweight Champ: Some midget who beats Sabin (in place of Hornswaggle). Tag Champs #1: The recently fired Naturals (in place of Cade & Murdoch) Tag Champs #2: Two boring lower card guys in cheesy greaser outfits (in place of two boring lower card guys in cheesy greaser outfits). Maybe you can argue that TNA has less talent (I wouldn't), but using this particular comparison, you certainly can't argue that their booking is worse than the crap Vince is feeding us... And if you REALLY wanna pick nits... Kurt Angle (with all the belts) is always > John Cena with all the belts. And I won't get started on the stupidity and eventual pointlessness of the "Vince's son" angle. The problem with your reasoning with comparing Cena to Killings is that you are not looking at things from a viewpoint of what really matters. Workrate is not real. There are only 3 things that matter. Drawing power, live crowd reactions, and ratings. Cena sells more stuff than probably all of TNA combined. He is a huge cash cow, and whether fans boo or cheer him, he gets huge reactions everywhere he goes as opposed to the Conway pops that so many others get.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 27, 2007 16:01:46 GMT -5
The booking is generally equally terrible. The difference is, WWE usually gets praised for terrible booking somehow, while TNA gets crapped on for it. Like it was said, I think for some fans, it's a matter of "WWE can afford to do this stuff; we want TNA to survive, but this hurts its chances!" However, I agree, and I've made threads about it before: WWE gets a pass on a TON of things that TNA doesn't. That doesn't mean I enjoy when TNA does something stupid, nor does it mean I'm much of a TNA fan at the moment (funny how one month can change so much), but I saw people on here acting like the WWE "Dating Game" show was Emmy-worthy content, when all it really was was 15 minute segment to tell us "Santino's heel now". Meanwhile, guys like, say, Londrick show up for a few minutes, leave, and aren't spoken of again. Again, though, really...neither of them have good booking at this point. Give me ROH drama or PWG comedy, please.
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Aug 27, 2007 16:19:17 GMT -5
Again, though, really...neither of them have good booking at this point. Give me ROH drama or PWG comedy, please. Seconded, but I'm gonna throw in CHIKARA as well.
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Post by hollywood on Aug 27, 2007 16:53:53 GMT -5
Again, though, really...neither of them have good booking at this point. Give me ROH drama or PWG comedy, please. Seconded, but I'm gonna throw in CHIKARA as well. Thirded. And just for the hell of it, I'll throw in the local fed in my area, OSW.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 27, 2007 20:43:55 GMT -5
Again I shall blanket defend TNA. It's better than anything I see on WWE. Well then again I gave up on the E in January and only read what happens instead of watching so I won't throw too much salt at them. I do prefer TNA
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Post by Stab Sword on Aug 27, 2007 21:11:07 GMT -5
They're on an equal level. Smackdown and ECW are just booked to fail and Raw is the only show remotely watchable. TNA on the other hand is just miserable to watch aside from the 2 minutes of X Division action.
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Post by audace12 on Aug 28, 2007 11:29:22 GMT -5
At least TNA's world champion can wrestle.
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