U-Gene?

[Andrew is Good]

If ROH signed him and had him be Nick Dismore, he could shed the Eugene gimmick.

But, I think it's been reported dozens of times that Eugene was his idea, so I guess he's going to stick with it. And why not. People say it's horrible and demeaning, but when the money starts rolling in, what's so bad about it.

[Chainsaw]

Man, I have been using pics a lot to express my disappointment tonight.

[mysterydriver]

I don't know where. I don't know when.

But I called this.

U-Gene is coming!

[Kevin Hamilton]

He could work some sorta quasi-science fiction gimmick. He's go the U-Gene that makes him superior to other wrestlers, or some such.

[Super Nimieboo]

therealzman said:

forgottensinpwf said:

Wasn't it Dinsmore himself who Suggested it in the first place?

I think he just volunteered to take it because he was tired of being in OVW.

Heard he lost a bet.

[machinegun]

This is ridiculous

He just needs to go to ROH or TNA and do some shoots

Seriously, this is one time where I think it's appropriate

[Limey]

machinegun said:

This is ridiculous

He just needs to go to ROH or TNA and do some shoots

Two things here;

1. ROH wouldn't touch that with a barge pole.

2. Please don't encourage TNA.

Also, if it was Dinsmore's idea in the first place, what's there to shoot about??

"I had an idea for a stupid gimmick to put onto TV, and WWE LET ME DO IT!!!"

Sorry, I know your intentions are pure.

[machinegun]

limey said:

machinegun said:

This is ridiculous

He just needs to go to ROH or TNA and do some shoots

Two things here;

1. ROH wouldn't touch that with a barge pole.

2. Please don't encourage TNA.

Also, if it was Dinsmore's idea in the first place, what's there to shoot about??

"I had an idea for a stupid gimmick to put onto TV, and WWE LET ME DO IT!!!"

Sorry, I know your intentions are pure.

Eugene did not make that up. There was a report where he broke character because he was depressed about it (It was a while ago)

I'm sure RoH would be more than happy to take Nick Dinsmore. He's a great wrestler. He'd have to kill the Eugene thing though.

[Limey]

machinegun said:

I'm sure RoH would be more than happy to take Nick Dinsmore. He's a great wrestler. He'd have to kill the Eugene thing though.

Now, that idea I can get behind. Bravo.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

machinegun said:

This is ridiculous

He just needs to go to ROH or TNA and do some shoots

Seriously, this is one time where I think it's appropriate

Sadly, he'll probably make more money on the indies playing a faux special person than trying to start over and relaunch his career as a serious wrestler. Plus, WWE will bring him back every now and again as a skit punchline and nostalgia pop for the next 15 years, with a few short runs here and there.

If I were him, I'd don a mask and call myself "Mr. Wrestling III" or something and try to get a job in TNA, ROH, or Japan as a serious singles wrestler, but that's not an option if he wants to make a living working indy dates on the East Coast with a character that's run its course and can't even be spelled properly.

I've pitched the masked man angle for Conway before on here, but I think it could work for Dinsmore. An old school masked wrester that's an intelligent, technical heavyweight...and wears a suit during interviews, speaks well, and takes apart his opponents like The Destroyer, Mr. Wrestling, or Masked Superstar. A new masked star is far more interesting than bringing in a non-Eugene Nick Dinsmore. Along the way, you re-build Dinsmore's credibility, and later you can unmask him if you want.

I'm weary of this working in a place like TNA or ROH, whose live fans would probably know newz that "Nick Dinsmore's coming in doing a masked gimmick" before he even wrestles a match and chant "Eugene" during his matches. But it should work. And even if they chant his name, you could have fun with that too. In Ron Simmons' shoot, he said he'd walk out to the ring as Doom #1 and some guy would always go "Hey you're Ron Simmons". The interviewer asked how he handled it, and Simmons just laughed said he'd always reply, "No I'm not!". But Doom re-built Simmons and Butch Reed, and when they unmasked again, they were bigger stars and taken more seriously than before they were under the masks.

[King Fox -1017 Bricksquad]

notmyproblem said:

Phoenix Wright sumed it up nicely!

[rossamania]

If this is what it takes for him to get money, the best of luck to him.

[STMP]

decodedfromspace said:

Let me pose this question:

What will he make more money as: Nick Dinsmore or as former WWE Superstar U-Gene?

I don't think it will be a lot of difference. He is going to sell himself as 'former WWE wrestler' anyway and every promoter is going to book him as 'former WWE wrestler'. How many promotions aren't there promoting a show with former WWE champions, only for the crowd to find out they are getting Orlando Jordan and Sylvain Grenier.

He isn't a guy like Dustin Rhodes, who is nowhere without his Goldust gimmick. He could definately make a living as Nick Dinsmore and seeing how the crowd got tired of Eugene, they might actually want to see him as Nick Dinsmore.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

giovanni said:

He isn't a guy like Dustin Rhodes, who is nowhere without his Goldust gimmick. He could definately make a living as Nick Dinsmore and seeing how the crowd got tired of Eugene, they might actually want to see him as Nick Dinsmore.

Dude, Dustin Rhodes was a name on TV for years without the Goldust gimmick. Yes, Dustin's a bigger star as Goldust, but it's not like Nick Dinsmore was wrestling as himself (and the son of a legend) for six years for WCW on a Saturday night show that pulled 2.0s-3.0s in the ratings before he became a gimmick in WWE.

I apologize, but that's just a poor analogy when you have a myriad of other workers that WWE/WWF ruined to choose from. As bad off as Dustin Rhodes is in his career, he has far more to play off than Dinsmore does with Eugene.

Right now, Dustin Rhodes is "nowhere" without Goldust, but in comparison, you can say that Nick Dinsmore is "lesswhere".

[willywonka666]

So he's with "Integrity Bookings" Ironic. The Eugene thing is gonna dry up quick without Vince's promotion behind it. Not that it was good to begin with. Another thing, he cannot break kayfabe and do a shoot in a tiny promotion-people don't wanna see that

[STMP]

aaaaaaaaa said:

giovanni said:

He isn't a guy like Dustin Rhodes, who is nowhere without his Goldust gimmick. He could definately make a living as Nick Dinsmore and seeing how the crowd got tired of Eugene, they might actually want to see him as Nick Dinsmore.

Dude, Dustin Rhodes was a name on TV for years without the Goldust gimmick. Yes, Dustin's a bigger star as Goldust, but it's not like Nick Dinsmore was wrestling as himself (and the son of a legend) for six years for WCW on a Saturday night show that pulled 2.0s-3.0s in the ratings before he became a gimmick in WWE.

I apologize, but that's just a poor analogy when you have a myriad of other workers that WWE/WWF ruined to choose from. As bad off as Dustin Rhodes is in his career, he has far more to play off than Dinsmore does with Eugene.

Right now, Dustin Rhodes is "nowhere" without Goldust, but in comparison, you can say that Nick Dinsmore is "lesswhere".

Indeed, right now he is nowhere and that is what it is about. I like Rhodes, and I even liked his non-Goldust gimmicks. But right now people look at him as 'just a wrestler', with Goldust he is a 'star' or a 'big name'.

He needs that gimmick, so for Rhodes that gimmick is important and will earn him more money. That's why I mentioned him.

For Dinsmore it doesn't matter on his paycheck if he is booked as Nick Dinsmore or U-Gene. Because he never really did much that meant anything. He is at the same level as an Orlando Jordan or a Rob Conway. They had a short run, held a title, were in a videogame and that's about it. Never became the big star or sold out arena's, never made a really big mark on pro-wrestling.

For Rhodes it's different. As Goldust, he is a former multipule IC-champion, had one of the most controversial gimmicks in pro-wrestling, was a very big and important part of the WWE in 1996 and was able to keep his gimmick fresh from it's debut to 1999. He has worked with some huge names, was helpfull in making HHH a bigger star and did some fun stuff with Booker T that people still love.

But take of the paint and call him Dustin Rhodes and would the fans really care?

[Chainsaw]

Someone mentioned it previously, but I'd be totally behind him taking Colt's "Matt Classic" gimmick.

There's also the consideration that "U-Gene" is still too close to Eugene as a name, and they could force him to stop using it.

[clifford]

Make some money as former WWE superstar U-Gene, then head to ROH as Nick Dinsmore.

[Chainsaw]

Between this and the Shelly Martinez booby wrestling thing, all I can say is...

"Desperation is a stinky cologne, John."

[Kae]

. . . I want to say "Good for him. He should make as much money as possible, and then start wrestling under a mask as a way of reinventing himself," but it's Eugene. Sorry, it's U-GENE! That's awful!