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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 10, 2007 2:51:52 GMT -5
Now that Lethal holds a clean win over Angle, that will pay huge dividends for TNA leading up to a future re-match. If Lethal would've won by Kevin Nash running in, missing a big boot and accidentally hitting Angle, it wouldn't have meant a damn thing.
It's amazing how easy clean finishes like that add to the product. Now there's money to be made if/when Lethal ever decides to challenge for Angle's world title. Maybe that's not a PPV match, but it'd be a good Impact main event when they get two hours. And I'm not a huge Lethal mark, but I popped at home when he pinned Angle. Such a surprising finish. Sadly, I can't remember the last time I popped watching the finish of a match on TV.
That was an awesome moment to watch on live PPV. Plus, after winning, it looked like Lethal broke character for the first time in months getting caught up in it. Looked like it meant a lot to him. Cool stuff.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 10, 2007 3:41:43 GMT -5
Clean wins over Angle are happening everywhere, its CRAAAAAZZZYYY~~ Maybe TNA has pulled their head out of their ass. |
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Post by Black Hammer Rocks the AssWhip on Sept 10, 2007 11:27:28 GMT -5
Shocked the hell out of me. Something that hasnt happened in awhile with TNA. Good job, boys.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 10, 2007 11:30:35 GMT -5
Now that Lethal holds a clean win over Angle, that will pay huge dividends for TNA leading up to a future re-match. If Lethal would've won by Kevin Nash running in, missing a big boot and accidentally hitting Angle, it wouldn't have meant a damn thing. It's amazing how easy clean finishes like that add to the product. Now there's money to be made if/when Lethal ever decides to challenge for Angle's world title. Maybe that's not a PPV match, but it'd be a good Impact main event when they get two hours. And I'm not a huge Lethal mark, but I popped at home when he pinned Angle. Such a surprising finish. Sadly, I can't remember the last time I popped watching the finish of a match on TV. That was an awesome moment to watch on live PPV. Plus, after winning, it looked like Lethal broke character for the first time in months getting caught up in it. Looked like it meant a lot to him. Cool stuff. You know, it isn't hard to believe for Lethal to go for the World Title. He had a shot before against Jarrett on iMPACT and was going head to head with him and he got cheated out of it in the end. |
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Post by Danimal on Sept 10, 2007 16:53:53 GMT -5
With the second-hour coming-up they gotta re-strengthen the x-division. This was a nice step in doing that. I am quite surprised they were willing to give Jay that win. Of course that means Angle had to get his heat back via Abyss. But I'll take that over Angle going-over Lethal or losing to Lethal via screwjob then another screwjob to put Angle over Abyss. Which is what I thought was coming.
I hope they give Lethal a nice title-reign. There has been too-much hot-shotting with it.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 10, 2007 17:14:15 GMT -5
I'm glad, but can we give Sonjay the damn thing? He's been"the best never to hold it" for 5 years.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Sept 10, 2007 17:32:34 GMT -5
If Lethal loses it within a month, it will be a travesty. I've only started wathing TNA solidly in the last couple of months or so and I find him to be the most entertaining guy on the roster.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Sept 10, 2007 20:17:05 GMT -5
That match made Jay Lethal. It took him from one level, and threw him right into another. Great match from Angle and Lethal.
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Post by Rick Mad on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:49 GMT -5
As much as I love Lethal, I wonder how Samoa Joe felt. "Wait, I can't beat Angle, but Jay Lethal can!? A few months ago I'd be squashing him on Impact in five seconds flat!"
In character, anyway. Kayfabe I'm sure Joe was happy for him.
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Post by comahan on Sept 10, 2007 23:08:21 GMT -5
As much as I love Lethal, I wonder how Samoa Joe felt. "Wait, I can't beat Angle, but Jay Lethal can!? A few months ago I'd be squashing him on Impact in five seconds flat!" In character, anyway. Kayfabe I'm sure Joe was happy for him. Joe made Angle tap in the best of their 4 matches  |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 10, 2007 23:31:51 GMT -5
As much as I love Lethal, I wonder how Samoa Joe felt. "Wait, I can't beat Angle, but Jay Lethal can!? A few months ago I'd be squashing him on Impact in five seconds flat!" In character, anyway. Kayfabe I'm sure Joe was happy for him. Kayfabe-wise, the Lethal/Angle/Joe scenario isn't much different than stuff that happens all the time in sports. In college football, Appalachian State (Lethal) can beat Michigan (Angle), and theoretically, Michigan could turn right around and beat Ohio State (Joe)*...even though Ohio State should easily squash Appalachian every single time, though in the back of your mind you think Appalachian would have a realistic outside shot. It's too bad that mainstream wrestling's bad booking and backstage politics (or guys not wanting to do jobs) have led to educating us that it takes a screwy finish or some sort of interference for an upset. Upsets happen all the time in real life. Good sports teams and good athletes have bad days every now and then. Wrestlers shouldn't be any different. Appalachian State's upset over Michigan wouldn't have meant as much if App. St. was also feuding with Georgia Southern University, who ran out to hit them with a chair but accidentally hit Michigan. Instead, Appalachian State beat Michigan fair and square, just like Jay Lethal, which got them more attention and respect. *-Michigan's kind of a bad example considering how bad they're playing right now, but hopefully the point still works. |
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Post by Richard on Sept 10, 2007 23:35:31 GMT -5
*-Michigan's kind of a bad example considering how bad they're playing right now  True |
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Post by Bocuma on Sept 11, 2007 7:10:11 GMT -5
This is the first time in quite awhile where I actually legitimately *marked* for something. Great match, clean finish, and hope for the X-Division.
The fact Angle allegedly pushed for this finish makes me like him even more.
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Post by Bocuma on Sept 11, 2007 7:14:13 GMT -5
Of course that means Angle had to get his heat back via Abyss. But I'll take that over Angle going-over Lethal or losing to Lethal via screwjob then another screwjob to put Angle over Abyss. Which is what I thought was coming. (sorry for double posting) I still have to hand it to TNA for that match too, though. Although the crowd was dead for it and it was really slow paced (something I don't mind, but still) it was a very convincing match. They actually had the monster/brawler play the part and the mat technician play the part as well. Again, no screwjobs, and instead of "burying" Abyss, it made it look like a valiant effort that came up short. Kayfabe-wise it was great, too, since Angle was supposedly in his "ECW-Nutty mode" before the match, thus making him trying to break Abyss' ankle make sense. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 7:28:27 GMT -5
Of course that means Angle had to get his heat back via Abyss. But I'll take that over Angle going-over Lethal or losing to Lethal via screwjob then another screwjob to put Angle over Abyss. Which is what I thought was coming. (sorry for double posting) I still have to hand it to TNA for that match too, though. Although the crowd was dead for it and it was really slow paced (something I don't mind, but still) it was a very convincing match. They actually had the monster/brawler play the part and the mat technician play the part as well. Again, no screwjobs, and instead of "burying" Abyss, it made it look like a valiant effort that came up short. Kayfabe-wise it was great, too, since Angle was supposedly in his "ECW-Nutty mode" before the match, thus making him trying to break Abyss' ankle make sense. I haven't been Angle's biggest fan during his TNA run, but yeah, his work was pretty awesome on Sunday. In the Lethal match, he was a technical bully. In the Abyss match, he was working a textbook Ric Flair title defense, but even stronger and more modern, taking out the leg but trying to put a slower, larger opponent out with high-flying stuff like moonsaults once he's grounded (which he didn't need to try while beating on Lethal). Very sound, cool, believable psychology. Kind of makes me wish Angle could've main-evented PPV singles matches against a wide-variety of opponents over the past year, rather than fighting Samoa Joe so many times, and fighting in six+man tag matches, or King of the Mountain Brawls. Joe and Angle should've been each beating on the rest of the roster this entire time, not each other. |
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Post by poi zen rana on Sept 11, 2007 10:54:33 GMT -5
I haven't been Angle's biggest fan during his TNA run, but yeah, his work was pretty awesome on Sunday. In the Lethal match, he was a technical bully. In the Abyss match, he was working a textbook Ric Flair title defense, but even stronger and more modern, taking out the leg but trying to put a slower, larger opponent out with high-flying stuff like moonsaults once he's grounded (which he didn't need to try while beating on Lethal). Very sound, cool, believable psychology. Kind of makes me wish Angle could've main-evented PPV singles matches against a wide-variety of opponents over the past year, rather than fighting Samoa Joe so many times, and fighting in six+man tag matches, or King of the Mountain Brawls. Joe and Angle should've been each beating on the rest of the roster this entire time, not each other. my thoughts exactly. i thoroughly enjoyed abyss/angle and lethal/angle. as you said the psychology in each of them i found was played really well. during the lethal match i was literally on the edge of my seat and thought when kurt kicked out of the lethal combination that it was legitimately over for the macho one. funny tidbit, watched this pay per view at a friend's house and his roommate (who scoffs at wrestling) came in to ask something at the beginning of the abyss/angle match and stayed around watching some of match. he made a few comments alluding to his stance that wrestling is stupid and so forth. the funny part is however he stared transfixed on the tv and did not leave until the very end of the abyss/angle match. he was trying to act like he wasn't into it but to stay with eyes glued on the tv set for the entirety of that match showed he wasn't too bored with that match. of course as soon as abyss tapped he scoffed and walked away. |
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