Sell me ROH.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

curtcrusher99 said:

Takeshi Morishima, The Briscoes, Bryan Danielson, Austin Aries, Claudio Castagnoli, El Generico, Kevin Steen, Jimmy Jacobs, Roderick Strock, Claudio Castagnoli, Chris Hero...OMGZ they all look the same, I can't tell them apart!!!!11!!

I know I have trouble telling the difference between Morishima and Jimmy Jacobs. They're just so damn similar.

[Mr. Mediocre]

chuckymac314 said:

curtcrusher99 said:

Takeshi Morishima, The Briscoes, Bryan Danielson, Austin Aries, Claudio Castagnoli, El Generico, Kevin Steen, Jimmy Jacobs, Roderick Strock, Claudio Castagnoli, Chris Hero...OMGZ they all look the same, I can't tell them apart!!!!11!!

I know I have trouble telling the difference between Morishima and Jimmy Jacobs. They're just so damn similar.

Odd. I have problems with Morishima and Ruckus.

[Hiroshi Hase]

chuckymac314 said:

curtcrusher99 said:

Takeshi Morishima, The Briscoes, Bryan Danielson, Austin Aries, Claudio Castagnoli, El Generico, Kevin Steen, Jimmy Jacobs, Roderick Strock, Claudio Castagnoli, Chris Hero...OMGZ they all look the same, I can't tell them apart!!!!11!!

I know I have trouble telling the difference between Morishima and Jimmy Jacobs. They're just so damn similar.

Nevermind that, if Hero and Austin Aries are standing side-by-side, your guess is as good as mine as I can't tell them apart.

[I'm The Cool One]

breakfastinbed said:

withteeth said:

because were all supposed to be WRESTLING fans and not sports entertainment fanes on here. sounds like you should just wait for WWE to come your way. you're already way to critical of the ROH product before you've even experienced it live. so dont even give it a chance.

just wait till WWE comes around and you'll have all the boogeyman and hornswoggle you can stand

I'm not the original poster sweetheart. I saw ROH when it came to the UK actually because I generally enjoy wrestling but when I can't visually keep up with it there's no use for me. I don't know any of the guys and anyone could be champion really. I don't have the time to search out all the dvds, nor would I want to spend that kind of money either. That, and I don't buy any wrestling merch or dvds anyhow.

I'm not just talking about WWE. I am quite critical of WWE, especially currently and would actively seek out other feds, even trying TNA for a while which was a lost cause. But yes I enjoy gimmicks. For entertainment I enjoy suspension of disbelief, I like being taken out of reality and seeing guys who could be my 220 pound friends in the ring doesn't excite me.

And the rail smacking is just irritating more than anything.

looking back on my post, it was probably the most poorly put together post in history.

yeah i know you arent the original poster of the thread. i just did a horrible job of differentiating between ideas... and i'm too lazy to fix it, lol

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

yjc1019 said:

chuckymac314 said:

I know I have trouble telling the difference between Morishima and Jimmy Jacobs. They're just so damn similar.

Nevermind that, if Hero and Austin Aries are standing side-by-side, your guess is as good as mine as I can't tell them apart.

It's the beards. It's all in the beards.

[Corporate H]

lisajennifer said:

Give Sweet & Sour a chance at least.

Listen to this woman.

[HMARK Center]

I always sell ROH to WWE fans by saying "the bookings actually logical, they use a LOT of continuity, and basically every story has at least an attempt at a beginning, middle, and end, even if a few now and then don't go over as well as others."

And to anyone who ever says "there are no characters/storylines in ROH", I point out A) that's blatantly untrue, and B) a TON of character development in ROH is accomplished in the ring, and seen in the actions and moves of certain wrestlers in a given match. For example: Morishima recently attacking Danielson's eye/orbital bone area.

[thestinger]

I'm currently indifferent to ROH.

Through TNA I have come to be a fan of Samoa Joe, Homocide, Alex Shelley, Austin Aries and Low Ki/Senshi.

I've watched their past ROH matches and enjoyed them all.

However, there is nobody I have seen on the current ROH roster that excites me enough to become a hardcore ROH fan.

Granted some ROH big names I've only seen a single match such as Nigel McGuinness and Morishima, but they really didn't impress me.

And while American Dragon and the Briscoes are really great, they just haven't interested me enough to buy tickets or order a ppv.

I'm not giving up on the company, but I've started thinking of them as a safety net. In other words, if TNA continues putting out a Russofied product, I may quit them and then it's get into ROH or give up the hobby .... again.

[Hiroshi Hase]

thestinger said:

I'm currently indifferent to ROH.

Through TNA I have come to be a fan of Samoa Joe, Homocide, Alex Shelley, Austin Aries and Low Ki/Senshi.

I've watched their past ROH matches and enjoyed them all.

However, there is nobody I have seen on the current ROH roster that excites me enough to become a hardcore ROH fan.

Granted some ROH big names I've only seen a single match such as Nigel McGuinness and Morishima, but they really didn't impress me.

And while American Dragon and the Briscoes are really great, they just haven't interested me enough to buy tickets or order a ppv.

I'm not giving up on the company, but I've started thinking of them as a safety net. In other words, if TNA continues putting out a Russofied product, I may quit them and then it's get into ROH or give up the hobby .... again.

I'll have to agree, I do like ROH, but right now I'm just not that into the product. Not even this 161 stuff could get me hyped for it at the moment.

[Gillberg: 0-175]

blackholemark said:

You wanted current events and people to get you into the product. Here goes:

Takeshi Morishima -- The ROH champion, whose wrestled formerly in Japan for NOAH before coming to ROH in February and beating Homicide for the World Title. He's huge and he's agile. He's pretty much the opposite of every other champ out there in terms of looks. He looks like a big teddy bear, however, he is not once he gets in the ring. He legitimitely fractured Bryan Danielson's eye. He is a badass.

The Briscoes -- The ROH tag team champions, who have more or less been with ROH since day one. As someone said before, who I agree with, the Briscoes are the best tag team probably around right now, and they have put on some classic matches all throughout 2007, with teams like Naruki Doi and Shingo, Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley, Kevin Steen and El Generico, Austin Aries and Roderick Strong, and they had what some consider a MOTY candidate fighting against each other during the Fifth Year Festival. They are tough, quick, and hard to beat.

Bryan Danielson -- In my opinion, Bryan Danielson is hands down the best wrestler in the US today, and maybe in the top 5 in the world. This is a guy who wrestled 50 minutes with a dislocated shoulder, wrestled with a injured eye, and held the ROH World Title for over one year before losing it to Homicide. He mixes technical wrestling, MMA style strikes and kicks, and the occasional high flying move. He has put on classics with people like Mike Quackenbush, Takeshi Morishima, Samoa Joe, Nigel McGuinness, and many others.

Nigel McGuinness -- Nigel McGuinness, in many people's opinions, will take the World Title from around Takeshi Morishima's waste. Hailing from the UK, he is a former ROH Pure Champion, who uses his arsenal of lariats, punches, and power to defeat opponents quickly. During the end of summer last year, he was in a battle with Bryan Danielson over the world title, having a series of matches that some considered the best of the year.

Claudio Castagnoli -- I don't know your knowledge of the indys, but Claudio is probably the fastest rising star in ROH and elsewhere. Claudio has held the ROH World Tag Team Titles (with Chris Hero), and recently won the Race To The Top Tournament, beating PWG regular El Generico. He has quickly become a main event player, challenging (however unsuccessfully) for the World Title, and doing battle with Chris Hero, and others. Claudio uses many power moves, including uppercuts and lariats, in order to defeat his opponent.

Storylines

The Resilience/No Remorse Corpse/The Vulture Squad -- Back in 2005 and 2006, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, and Jack Evans were in a stable known as Generation Next. The stable was designed in order to showcase themselves, the new talent, to the fans of ROH. In the middle of 2006, the stable broke up, as Austin Aries had previously won the ROH World Title, and Austin Aries and Roderick Strong currently held the ROH World Tag Team Titles, losing them to the Kings Of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) at Glory By Honor weekend. After losing the belts, they continued to team until in February 2007, Roderick Strong attacked Austin Aries after a tag team loss. During the beat down, Davey Richards came out to help Roderick, and it was announced that they would be together in the No Remorse Corpse. So naturally, in order to oppose this group, Austin Aries went out to find him some friends who could take his back. He eventually got Matt Cross, Erick Stevens, and Delirious, while Roderick Strong added Rocky Romero. That left Jack Evans. Jack at first tried to get the former teammates to forgive and forget, however, he couldn't succeed. So, he went out and formed his own team, heading by Homicide's former manager, Julius Smokes. The Vulture Squad, as the team is known, also added Ruckus, and will be added a new mystery member on October 5th. They continue to do battle at every show, looking for supremacy.

Age of The Fall -- Started a few months prior, a group known as Project 161 created a website to attempt to tear down ROH. Their first attempt was posting a picture of Gabe Sapolsky (ROH's head booker, and former ECW employee) and his wife. Gabe, outraged, demanded the no references to 161 be made on the website or forum. However, for months, 161 continued to operate a website and a blog, often making sinister entries about the imminent doom coming to ROH. Then, 161 began to attack the Briscoe Brothers. They broke into their trailer and stole precious items, including pictures of the brothers from their youth, and then posted them on the website, mocking the Briscoes. Last weekend at the pay-per-view taping, the Briscoes came out victorious against Kevin Steen and El Generico in ROH's first ever ladder match. All of the sudden, at the end of the match, Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black, and The Necro Butcher arrived and began beating down the Briscoe Brothers. They took Jay and hung him up above the ring using the device used to hold the belts for the ladder match. Because of the beatings that he had received, Jay bled buckets of blood down onto the ring. Jimmy Jacobs cut a promo about how Project 161 (now known as Age of the Fall) was here to destroy ROH. At one point during the promo, Jimmy Jacobs leaned back and drank some of the blood falling from the head of Jay Briscoe. On October 5th, it will be the Briscoes against two members of the Age of The Fall. The Briscoes are pissed, and when the Briscoes are pissed, it's time to MAN UP.

Sweet and Sour Inc. -- Larry Sweeney is the most wheeling dealing manager in the world right now. His most recent accomplishment includes getting Matt Sydal signed to a WWE contract. His "clients" consist of Tank Toland, Chris Hero, Sara Del Ray, and the portly Bobby Dempsey. Sweeney continues to wheel and deal to get great matches and title shots for his clients. He knows that one day, he will be the one responsible for all the gold his clients will have.

I thought about writing about the Hangman Three, but they just started last weekend, so there isn't really much about them. As a word of advice to you: Go. A little over a year ago, I decided to go to an ROH show because I knew some of the wrestlers from other indys and TNA. I went in knowing absolutely nothing about storylines and most wrestlers. I was hooked on the first show. Going to an ROH show is one of my favorite things to do, because it's exciting live action that, in truth, isn't found anywhere else. It isn't just mat wrestlers, or spot-monkeys, it's down to earth, real good wrestling. It couldn't hurt to try, could it?

Thanks, a reply like this is what I was looking for. Everyone here defends ROH by saying "Hey, if you don't like it now, don't bother trying it", which is a really stupid approach to life. It's like me saying "Hey, I wanna get into eating greens. So broccoli, it's green, which I don't like, and looks like a tree, which is unappatizing to me. What should I do to make it so I could possibly enjoy it?" Someone would normally answer: "Add cheese" or something. Not "Well, if you're critical of broccoli now, you shouldn't ever eat it".

That's how a lot of you guys are coming off. I'm listing things that are keeping me away from ROH, which I am trying to get into, and instead of trying to list all the good things (and especially good things about my "wrong" misperceptions) a lot of you are saying "f*** you, if you think of it like that, don't bother with it".

So then I ask, why should anyone care? I didn't like Friends when I first saw it. I found it being very unfunny. But sticking through it for a while, I found things I liked about it. Or was I supposed to "never bother" with it?

I apologize your famed promotion that I want to learn to love has a fat asian woman as the champ, and their 2nd most reconizable wrestler (to me at least) is comparable to white bread from what I've seen. Why should I like it? What makes it seem so cool when you have Morishima as champ? Or when you see Bryan Danielson in nothing more than his underwear. Basically, that's all I have to go by.

But again, I'd like to thank blackholemark for the insight. Now I'm intrigued by the product. Too bad I probably can't go, if you can't buy at the door.

[Hiroshi Hase]

doinksdoodoo said:

blackholemark said:

You wanted current events and people to get you into the product. Here goes:

Takeshi Morishima -- The ROH champion, whose wrestled formerly in Japan for NOAH before coming to ROH in February and beating Homicide for the World Title. He's huge and he's agile. He's pretty much the opposite of every other champ out there in terms of looks. He looks like a big teddy bear, however, he is not once he gets in the ring. He legitimitely fractured Bryan Danielson's eye. He is a badass.

The Briscoes -- The ROH tag team champions, who have more or less been with ROH since day one. As someone said before, who I agree with, the Briscoes are the best tag team probably around right now, and they have put on some classic matches all throughout 2007, with teams like Naruki Doi and Shingo, Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley, Kevin Steen and El Generico, Austin Aries and Roderick Strong, and they had what some consider a MOTY candidate fighting against each other during the Fifth Year Festival. They are tough, quick, and hard to beat.

Bryan Danielson -- In my opinion, Bryan Danielson is hands down the best wrestler in the US today, and maybe in the top 5 in the world. This is a guy who wrestled 50 minutes with a dislocated shoulder, wrestled with a injured eye, and held the ROH World Title for over one year before losing it to Homicide. He mixes technical wrestling, MMA style strikes and kicks, and the occasional high flying move. He has put on classics with people like Mike Quackenbush, Takeshi Morishima, Samoa Joe, Nigel McGuinness, and many others.

Nigel McGuinness -- Nigel McGuinness, in many people's opinions, will take the World Title from around Takeshi Morishima's waste. Hailing from the UK, he is a former ROH Pure Champion, who uses his arsenal of lariats, punches, and power to defeat opponents quickly. During the end of summer last year, he was in a battle with Bryan Danielson over the world title, having a series of matches that some considered the best of the year.

Claudio Castagnoli -- I don't know your knowledge of the indys, but Claudio is probably the fastest rising star in ROH and elsewhere. Claudio has held the ROH World Tag Team Titles (with Chris Hero), and recently won the Race To The Top Tournament, beating PWG regular El Generico. He has quickly become a main event player, challenging (however unsuccessfully) for the World Title, and doing battle with Chris Hero, and others. Claudio uses many power moves, including uppercuts and lariats, in order to defeat his opponent.

Storylines

The Resilience/No Remorse Corpse/The Vulture Squad -- Back in 2005 and 2006, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, and Jack Evans were in a stable known as Generation Next. The stable was designed in order to showcase themselves, the new talent, to the fans of ROH. In the middle of 2006, the stable broke up, as Austin Aries had previously won the ROH World Title, and Austin Aries and Roderick Strong currently held the ROH World Tag Team Titles, losing them to the Kings Of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) at Glory By Honor weekend. After losing the belts, they continued to team until in February 2007, Roderick Strong attacked Austin Aries after a tag team loss. During the beat down, Davey Richards came out to help Roderick, and it was announced that they would be together in the No Remorse Corpse. So naturally, in order to oppose this group, Austin Aries went out to find him some friends who could take his back. He eventually got Matt Cross, Erick Stevens, and Delirious, while Roderick Strong added Rocky Romero. That left Jack Evans. Jack at first tried to get the former teammates to forgive and forget, however, he couldn't succeed. So, he went out and formed his own team, heading by Homicide's former manager, Julius Smokes. The Vulture Squad, as the team is known, also added Ruckus, and will be added a new mystery member on October 5th. They continue to do battle at every show, looking for supremacy.

Age of The Fall -- Started a few months prior, a group known as Project 161 created a website to attempt to tear down ROH. Their first attempt was posting a picture of Gabe Sapolsky (ROH's head booker, and former ECW employee) and his wife. Gabe, outraged, demanded the no references to 161 be made on the website or forum. However, for months, 161 continued to operate a website and a blog, often making sinister entries about the imminent doom coming to ROH. Then, 161 began to attack the Briscoe Brothers. They broke into their trailer and stole precious items, including pictures of the brothers from their youth, and then posted them on the website, mocking the Briscoes. Last weekend at the pay-per-view taping, the Briscoes came out victorious against Kevin Steen and El Generico in ROH's first ever ladder match. All of the sudden, at the end of the match, Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black, and The Necro Butcher arrived and began beating down the Briscoe Brothers. They took Jay and hung him up above the ring using the device used to hold the belts for the ladder match. Because of the beatings that he had received, Jay bled buckets of blood down onto the ring. Jimmy Jacobs cut a promo about how Project 161 (now known as Age of the Fall) was here to destroy ROH. At one point during the promo, Jimmy Jacobs leaned back and drank some of the blood falling from the head of Jay Briscoe. On October 5th, it will be the Briscoes against two members of the Age of The Fall. The Briscoes are pissed, and when the Briscoes are pissed, it's time to MAN UP.

Sweet and Sour Inc. -- Larry Sweeney is the most wheeling dealing manager in the world right now. His most recent accomplishment includes getting Matt Sydal signed to a WWE contract. His "clients" consist of Tank Toland, Chris Hero, Sara Del Ray, and the portly Bobby Dempsey. Sweeney continues to wheel and deal to get great matches and title shots for his clients. He knows that one day, he will be the one responsible for all the gold his clients will have.

I thought about writing about the Hangman Three, but they just started last weekend, so there isn't really much about them. As a word of advice to you: Go. A little over a year ago, I decided to go to an ROH show because I knew some of the wrestlers from other indys and TNA. I went in knowing absolutely nothing about storylines and most wrestlers. I was hooked on the first show. Going to an ROH show is one of my favorite things to do, because it's exciting live action that, in truth, isn't found anywhere else. It isn't just mat wrestlers, or spot-monkeys, it's down to earth, real good wrestling. It couldn't hurt to try, could it?

Thanks, a reply like this is what I was looking for. Everyone here defends ROH by saying "Hey, if you don't like it now, don't bother trying it", which is a really stupid approach to life. It's like me saying "Hey, I wanna get into eating greens. So broccoli, it's green, which I don't like, and looks like a tree, which is unappatizing to me. What should I do to make it so I could possibly enjoy it?" Someone would normally answer: "Add cheese" or something. Not "Well, if you're critical of broccoli now, you shouldn't ever eat it".

That's how a lot of you guys are coming off. I'm listing things that are keeping me away from ROH, which I am trying to get into, and instead of trying to list all the good things (and especially good things about my "wrong" misperceptions) a lot of you are saying "smurf you, if you think of it like that, don't bother with it".

So then I ask, why should anyone care? I didn't like Friends when I first saw it. I found it being very unfunny. But sticking through it for a while, I found things I liked about it. Or was I supposed to "never bother" with it?

I apologize your famed promotion that I want to learn to love has a fat asian woman as the champ, and their 2nd most reconizable wrestler (to me at least) is comparable to white bread from what I've seen. Why should I like it? What makes it seem so cool when you have Morishima as champ? Or when you see Bryan Danielson in nothing more than his underwear. Basically, that's all I have to go by.

But again, I'd like to thank blackholemark for the insight. Now I'm intrigued by the product. Too bad I probably can't go, if you can't buy at the door.

To be honest in your initial post, you did come across as negative, so it didn't seem like you wanted to know a lot about ROH, even by what you were saying.

And if you don't like something, why should you stick with it? I don't understand, I guess different strokes for different folks. I didn't like Friends then, and don't like it now.

[sexualvanilla]

I apologize your famed promotion that I want to learn to love has a fat asian woman as the champ, and their 2nd most reconizable wrestler (to me at least) is comparable to white bread from what I've seen. Why should I like it? What makes it seem so cool when you have Morishima as champ? Or when you see Bryan Danielson in nothing more than his underwear. Basically, that's all I have to go by.

But again, I'd like to thank blackholemark for the insight. Now I'm intrigued by the product. Too bad I probably can't go, if you can't buy at the door.

If you're judging the wrestlers by pictures you see but don't watch any matches or any video footage of, then it's fairly short sighted. The "fat asian woman" you call Morishima is a very talented big man wrestler, along the lines of Vader and Terry Gordy. He's a beast and has had a very good title reign and is one of Japan's future heavyweight stars. But you might not get that if you're just looking at profile pictures since they can only say so much. Ric Flair, Harley Race, Steve Austin, etc. might not seem like much if you see a dull picture of them but watch a few matches or listen to some promos and you'll see the hype for'em. Same thing with ROH; don't judge a book by its cover.

Here's the latest video wire with the newest event happenings (this isn't the Age of the Fall version; it hasn't come out yet_
youtube.com/watch?v=HoS8HdSRQGk

Here's a video of ROH publicity with a lot of action shown:
youtube.com/watch?v=rHjqATJNxjc

And a video preview for the PPV airing soon:
youtube.com/watch?v=mpGpK_O4k3c&mode=user&search=

To my knowledge, you can buy at the door and usually get some pretty good seats.

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

doinksdoodoo said:

But again, I'd like to thank blackholemark for the insight. Now I'm intrigued by the product. Too bad I probably can't go, if you can't buy at the door.

You can buy tickets at the door. I have been to 2 shows, and for both of them I basically just showed up and bought general admission tickets which let me sit in the bleachers. I could see really good from them too, so those seats are fine with me.

I apologize your famed promotion that I want to learn to love has a fat asian woman as the champ, and their 2nd most reconizable wrestler (to me at least) is comparable to white bread from what I've seen. Why should I like it? What makes it seem so cool when you have Morishima as champ? Or when you see Bryan Danielson in nothing more than his underwear. Basically, that's all I have to go by.

Saying things like this is why so few people tried to sell ROH to you. You are making fun of ROH, you insulted the champion, and then made fun of Danielson who is one of the most popular guys in ROH. I think some people took exception to your badmouthing of the product and figured "why should I bother helping this guy". No offense to you intended here of course -- but this is just what I think the reason is. I am not even one of the hardcore ROH guys around here, so I'm not saying this to defend it or anything. It's just what I noticed and believe to be the reason it took 5 pages before someone gave you a detailed answer to your question.

[HMARK Center]

Yeah, really, you can't badmouth a product a lot of people really like...and then expect them to help you.

Good to see it's sorted out, though.

[Joekishi]

mattrogers said:

You can watch this angry obese asian girl...



As he hurts people.

fixed

[thestinger]

Morishima really didn't impress me the one time I saw him wrestle.

I think it must have been an off-night or something. Someday I'll watch more of his matches and see if I like him better.

[Near Fantastica]

Fat asian women kill my boner.

[The Lodger]

As a guy who very very recently was introduced to ROH, I got into it like this. I ordered one DVD (Glory By Honor: Joe v London, Punk v. Raven), gave a quick glimpse at the roster, and bought a ticket to the most recent Manhattan show. I am now hooked.

I'm like you, I got bored of the same old story lines, and found solice in ECW. I agree with you, yeah a good match is a good match, but if I don't care about the characters, I don't care about the match.

ROH's style of storytelling is very different then anything going on in wrestling, it's subtle. Like a previous poster said, look at Morishima's attacks on Danielson's eye, at first it just appeared to be a good wrestling tactic. But what I am noticing (and maybe I'm wrong) is that we're beginning to see a mean streak in Morishima, not just mean, his attitude is becoming more vicious. I don't know what it means, but it could mean a possible turn. Again, maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but I think that's an example of story telling through ring action. Another example is Jimmy Jacobs, when he went crazy on BJ in the steel cage, Jimmy Jacobs was a different person. The promo he cut at the PPV seemed to allude that something big was coming, now Age of the Fall.

I agree that the fans can be really irritating, but I think that's the case when you get a large group of people in a space, the IQ drops at least 75%. Be it wrestling or football, you're always going to have an idiotic guy or two try to put himself over. It's irritating no doubt.

As far as the rail banging, the same things could've been said about "ECdub, ECdub, ECdub." Some like it, some don't, it's still going to happen, if you're going to let that draw you away from the product, that's your prerogative.

I can't pretend to be an expert on ROH or wrestling in general, I'm just a smarter then the average fan fan. I know a good product when I see it, and I know good booking when I see it. I say give it a shot, if it's not your cup of tea, more power to you, just get used to seeing the same guys were chanting at ROH doing lame gimmicks when they get picked up by TNA or WWE.

A loose but passionate post, I know.

[lildude8218]

I went through something similar like this about a year ago. I was thinking about going to the ROH/FIP Impact of Honor show in Orlando. Double main event was AmDrag/Colt for the ROH title and Aries/Strong vs Jerrelle Clark and Jay Fury for the tag titles. I had seen Danielson a few times in MLW, Aries, Strong and Clark I had seen on TNA, and I had only heard of Colt....didn't even know what the guy looked like. I was on dialup back then so downloading and/or streaming videos took way too long.

So I came on here and asked you guys if I should go and ran down the card. Surpringly, everyone was more excited about an undercard match with two guys I had never heard of. Davey Richards vs Shingo. Just by the way people were going nuts over this possibility and completely ignoring what I already thought sounded like a great main event, I was sold on going to the show.

I got to the show and it was $15 at the door and maybe 200 people were there (I'm terrible about estimating numbers of people.) Colt Cabana was sitting at the merch table but I have no idea who he was. The picture they had of him on the little flyer was skewed in such a way that his face was a little fatter and he had sunglasses on so the dude looked Spanish. Later when he came out for the match, I went "THAT'S COLT???"

Richards/Shingo wound up not living up to the expectations of people on here. But I'll say that I had more fun at that show watching guys I had never even heard of (ex: Sal Rinauro, The Heartbreak Express, and Kory Chavis) than I did at Lockdown 2006. Granted part of that had to do with the fact that I had to stand outside for 3 hours waiting in line for Lockdown to only get over to the studio and have them tell us that the arena was full only to be let in before the 4th match.

But my point is that if you keep an open mind that you might wind up enjoying yourself.

[Aaron E. Dangerously]

Am I crazy (like a fox!) or do we get posts like this every month?

To be a broken record, just buy a ticket and check out the product. That's what I'm gonna do the next time they're in Chicago Ridge.