Rate TNA Genesis 2007

[Hensley]

Well...GET TO IT!

[Overly large testicles]

I think 8 was about right. Nothing too great, but a really solid show.

[Hensley]

I'll go 10 just because KAZ IS THE NUMBER ONE CONTENDER! Of course, Russo will probably just blow this off on iMPACT!, or make him lose it to someone like Nash, but STILL!!! For now...Kaz rules all...

[Zane]

I give it 10 even though I haven't seen it because MCMG beat 3D!

[poi zen rana]

i can't be the only one who doesn't care if angle kaz is on an impact can i? impact has had some good length matches and i am happy enough at the prospect of seeing angle/kaz, as i had been whenever i found out kaz was going to the finals (i had picked storm to win)

[Gillberg: 0-175]

It seems like a step in the right direction. I didn't see it, but by reading it it seems like a very solidly booked PPV.

I think the first match was the only thing bad about that PPV. Again, I didn't see it, so I won't go by match quality, but as a creative direction for the company it seemed solid.

What really stood out a lot to me was the Eric Young drinking thing. I think after months and months of being on cruise control creative finally gave him a good segment that works well with his character. He reminds me of Butters....like if Cartman (James Storm) would challenge Butters (Eric Young) to a ball kicking contest (beer drinking contest) and it's hilarious when Cartman winds up losing at something he brags to be good at to someone who is just is a goody two shoes.

What I really thought was dumb was the Abyss thing. Seems taken straight out of 1998. But maybe some people like that...I dunno...seems a bit tried to me.

[poi zen rana]

the world drinking championship belt is amazing and seriously looks like a toy spinner belt that they stuck things on to cover up logos and such. may not be but that is what it looked like to me, and i got a chuckle.

[VRM: LET'S GO BLUESHIRTS!!]

Great PPV...not quite on par with what BFG did...

But definitely the 2nd best PPV TNA has done this year.

[Mozenrath]

What were the results? I don't want to sift through like 40 pages.

[comahan]

* Abyss Def. Black Reign in the Shop Of Horrors Match @ 11:00 via pin

* The MCMG's Def. Team 3D @ 17:50 via pin

* Gail Kim Def. Roxxi Leveaux, ODB, and Angel Williams in a Fatal Four Way @ 9:08 via pin to retain the Womens Title

* Black Machismo Def. Sonjay Dutt @ 12:05 via pin to retain the X Title

* AJ and Tomko Def. The Steiners @ 10:44 via pin to retain the Tag Titles

* Samoa Joe Def. Robert Roode @ 16:00 via pin

* Kaz Def. Christian Cage in a Ladder Match @ 15:10 to become the #1 Contender

* Kurt Angle and Kevin Nash Def. Sting and Booker T @ 13:36 when Angle pinned Sting to retain the World Title

[Mozenrath]

comahan said:

* Abyss Def. Black Reign in the Shop Of Horrors Match @ 11:00 via pin

* The MCMG's Def. Team 3D @ 17:50 via pin

* Gail Kim Def. Roxxi Leveaux, ODB, and Angel Williams in a Fatal Four Way @ 9:08 via pin to retain the Womens Title

* Black Machismo Def. Sonjay Dutt @ 12:05 via pin to retain the X Title

* AJ and Tomko Def. The Steiners @ 10:44 via pin to retain the Tag Titles

* Samoa Joe Def. Robert Roode @ 16:00 via pin

* Kaz Def. Christian Cage in a Ladder Match @ 15:10 to become the #1 Contender

* Kurt Angle and Kevin Nash Def. Sting and Booker T @ 13:36 when Angle pinned Sting to retain the World Title

Sounds like a pretty good PPV.

[tonyexile]

I say 10. I have some minor beefs, but I enjoyed this PPV very much. Well worth every penny and every minute. I can't ask for much more than that.

["Nature Boy" Ric Moranis]

- The Abyss match was stupid as hell...but if you're gonna have that type of segment on your shows, I think Redrum is a good character for the storyline. In my opinion, he should've had Judas Mesias' buildup as Mitchell's new monster. And this might sound insane to lucha/AAA fans, but I can't stand anything about Banderas or his in-ring style, and I think Johnny The Bull has a ton more upside in that role. I've always kind of liked that dude for some reason, even though he kind of sucks. For a total 1997 gimmick, Redrum still has a great look, IMO.

- MCMG looked like major players in beating Team 3D. Great match. Really good promo by the Guns beforehand. For all of us who are incredibly sick of Team 3D, you gotta hand it to them, they showed they still have a little bit in the tank, and actually elevated the guys by losing. If Team 3D really wanted to be uncooperative/unproductive, this could've been a clustersmurf, but it was exactly the opposite.

- Women's match was okay.

- As much as Eric Young annoys me, that Young/Storm drinking thing was funny. Thank god that didn't suck, because that would've been brutal if they kept having to go back to those segments if they weren't working. Storm is so money, and him and Young are great together.

- Lethal vs. Dutt was good. Not sure even Randy Savage would be caught in public wearing whatever in the hell Lethal's new pants were supposed to be. With the new outfit/look it looked like Machismo is slowly evolving out of the 100% tribute act...yet then they stick him with Elizabeth (Val), which should still be pretty good/fun on TV. I was kind of hoping Lethal would've turned on Dutt during their post match celebration and been a crazy-ass, vicious, Savage-style paranoid heel, that could add more of an edge to the character. Maybe it's still too soon for that. Tonight was pretty much the first time he's hit the Macho elbow perfectly, too.

- Tomko/AJ vs. Steiners exceeded my modest expectations. Scotty Steiner and AJ have a good chemistry, and are pretty fun to watch fake-fight. Of course, that might just be cause I could watch Steiner keep hitting AJ with his classic suplexes all day long, and that was happening.

- Joe vs. Roode was really good until the last bit, where it sort of petered out. Roode's gimmick is so bad, but I think he's almost underrated in the ring, and he's been cutting really good promos lately, so I was hoping this would be the night that he really established himself. I'm not sure that happened. Who knows.

- Kaz/Christian was awesome. Christian's really been bringing it lately (plus an awesome pre-match promo), and I think it's cool as hell that they're actually gonna do Angle vs. Kaz in the near future. If anything, the one good thing about TNA doing Angle/Joe and Angle/Sting so many times...is that any time Angle steps in the ring with a fresh new TNA opponent (like the Lethal match), it's got a special feel...and it kind of makes Angle's being in TNA feel like a big deal again. Maybe that's just me.

- It's been said 1,000,000 times before, but Don West and Mike Tenay seriously need to shut the hell up. The Booker T introduction could've felt like a ten-time bigger deal if they would've just shut up went the lights went out and let the MOMENT speak for itself. That's Sports/Pro Wrestling Announcing 101, and that's what happens when you don't have at least one legit broadcaster on the announce team, but rather hire a dirt sheet writer from Vegas and a screaming a-hole that used to sell baseball cards. TNA went to the trouble of making Booker's obvious debut seem really mysterious and special, and Tenay and West almost completely ruined the fun of it.

- Booker looked great. Nash did not, but they do such a good job explaining his injury history, and it looks so hard for him to do even the most simple thing, that it adds a whole other level of intrigue to his matches. I literally sit there hoping the guy doesn't seriously hurt himself, that it brings its own story into the match. Portraying Nash as this beat-up old man is actually a pretty smart way to use him, instead of trying to hide it, and pretend he's the same guy he was in his prime (which is how WCW used their dinosaurs like Hogan, Piper, Savage, etc. in the 1990s).

- Really looking forward to where Christian's character is going from here. The champ lost his damn belt months ago, lost his title shot tonight, now he's apparently lost his friends, and has nothing. Such a simple set up for a story. I like how he's so damn obnoxious that everyone just apparently abandoned him. I hope this doesn't lead to a half-assed face turn, because Christian's at his best being used exactly how he is now.

- Good show. Main event was a clustersmurf, but Booker looked motivated for a fresh new start, I don't mind TNA's main-event clustersmurfs at all when the undercard's really, really good...which it was. I've always hoped TNA would put on a good, consistent product on TV and PPV, and for the past month or two, they're finally starting to deliver.

[Mozenrath]

I've always loved Johnny the Bull, so glad to see he got work.

That man is STRONG.

[kingoftheindies]

for those interested here is Johnny the Bull as Redrum

[Mozenrath]

kingoftheindies said:

for those interested here is Johnny the Bull as Redrum

Hey, if you're going to ripoff a mask, might as well be Muta's.

[comahan]

My roomate just saw the pic and started screaming about Darth Maul in TNA. :/

[Dragonfly]

I gave it an eight, though in reality it was actually an 8.5 - fun show with some surprising moments. The opening match (complete with Johnny Stamb... I mean "Red Rum") and Sonjay's non-turn drug it down slightly for me.

[kingoftheindies]

kiddobradley said:

kingoftheindies said:

for those interested here is Johnny the Bull as Redrum

Hey, if you're going to ripoff a mask, might as well be Muta's.

from the little I've seen the gimmick is basically muta meets a combo of Taker and Kane from late 98 early 99

and I'm pretty sure Redrum is pronounced Re-drum, but I dunno. But after seeing TNA's puzzle about Borden and Huffman teaming up I guess debuting redrum makes sense.

And I guess he adds to Turning Point which is being advertised as the bloodiest night in TNA history, and the poster seems to indicate that it will be built around Abyss,Black Reign, and the returning Judas Mesias so why not throw in Redrum and make it a MOnster's Ball

[messiah]

vinceruinedmonday said:

Great PPV...not quite on par with what BFG did...

But definitely the 2nd best PPV TNA has done this year.

I don't think anyone was/should have been expecting it to live up to BFG, but I am pleasantly surprised with how the show turned out. I'm a bit of a TNA mark, but they really do deliver on the PPVs, say what you will about them.

It just goes to show you, when you have a talented roster, they can just make a PPV. I mean I think people were excited, for example, about Kaz v. Christian but I don't think anyone was thinking Match of the Night, or insane bumps, or even a win by Kaz.

TNA is moving in a really positive direction, and even if Kaz ends up losing to Angle on Impact (which seems to be the way they're going with this) he's still getting an incredible rub. And besides that, the company overall has a lot of really great angles going on.

This is a great time to be following TNA, IMO.