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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Nov 22, 2007 18:19:42 GMT -5
I've never cared much for battel royals in general, but I like how this sounds. It certrainly wouldn't kill the 'E to do the odd gimmick match for title contention like TNA does.
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Post by hollywood on Nov 22, 2007 18:29:40 GMT -5
I've never cared much for battel royals in general, but I like how this sounds. It certrainly wouldn't kill the 'E to do the odd gimmick match for title contention like TNA does. I think it boils down to the fact that, for all of WWE's flaws (and God knows they have a lot), they're not that stupid.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 22, 2007 18:33:44 GMT -5
I've never cared much for battel royals in general, but I like how this sounds. It certrainly wouldn't kill the 'E to do the odd gimmick match for title contention like TNA does. I think it boils down to the fact that, for all of WWE's flaws (and God knows they have a lot), they're not that stupid. It's stupid to decide contention in an actual match? I know that the gimmick matches can go into the overload, but I think it would be good to have maybe a triple threat or a gauntlet or something else to determine who gets a shot instead of "spend 3 months feuding with someone, then someone else attacks from behind, and he's the new contender."
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Post by hollywood on Nov 22, 2007 18:36:57 GMT -5
I think it boils down to the fact that, for all of WWE's flaws (and God knows they have a lot), they're not that stupid. It's stupid to decide contention in an actual match? I know that the gimmick matches can go into the overload, but I think it would be good to have maybe a triple threat or a gauntlet or something else to determine who gets a shot instead of "spend 3 months feuding with someone, then someone else attacks from behind, and he's the new contender." I whole-heartedly agree. And TNA's current use of tournaments is actually kind of refreshing. The Kaz/Kurt match last week was actually very good for what it was. But, I'm sorry, this just screams wrestlecrap. It's actually better to lose the battle royal than to be one of the four remaining?
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Post by jmac950 on Nov 22, 2007 18:38:08 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be better for a wrestler to not grab a brief case?
On a side note, I'd laugh if the 'E had this match, and Carlito ended up getting a title shot, and then pan to a shot of him looking pissed. In fact, that should be Carlito's gimmick. He shoud go out every week, asking to get fired, but he gets pushed to the IC title.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Nov 22, 2007 18:43:51 GMT -5
It's stupid to decide contention in an actual match? I know that the gimmick matches can go into the overload, but I think it would be good to have maybe a triple threat or a gauntlet or something else to determine who gets a shot instead of "spend 3 months feuding with someone, then someone else attacks from behind, and he's the new contender." I whole-heartedly agree. And TNA's current use of tournaments is actually kind of refreshing. The Kaz/Kurt match last week was actually very good for what it was. But, I'm sorry, this just screams wrestlecrap. It's actually better to lose the battle royal than to be one of the four remaining? Granted it's not the greatest idea, but it's more refreshing than the usual formula of "Attack the champion post match & get a title shot at the PPV."
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Post by hollywood on Nov 22, 2007 18:45:25 GMT -5
I whole-heartedly agree. And TNA's current use of tournaments is actually kind of refreshing. The Kaz/Kurt match last week was actually very good for what it was. But, I'm sorry, this just screams wrestlecrap. It's actually better to lose the battle royal than to be one of the four remaining? Granted it's not the greatest idea, but it's more refreshing than the usual formula of "Attack the champion post match & get a title shot at the PPV." As tired and cliche as that formula has gotten, I can't agree that this is an improvement.
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 22, 2007 18:50:04 GMT -5
Granted it's not the greatest idea, but it's more refreshing than the usual formula of "Attack the champion post match & get a title shot at the PPV." As tired and cliche as that formula has gotten, I can't agree that this is an improvement. Personally, I think it would have been better to have a regular gauntlet match, and then have the last tag team guy who got eliminated get the title shot for tags, the last x guy get the shot for the x belt, and the winner gets the world title shot. However, I can't really bash it since I have no idea how it's gonna run and I'll only say if it was bad or good after the execution.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 22, 2007 21:02:14 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be better for a wrestler to not grab a brief case? On a side note, I'd laugh if the 'E had this match, and Carlito ended up getting a title shot, and then pan to a shot of him looking pissed. In fact, that should be Carlito's gimmick. He shoud go out every week, asking to get fired, but he gets pushed to the IC title. That's why I like this idea. Hell, TNA could play up those Internet rumors of half the roster wanting out of the company and book it so one of the wrestlers is shooting for the pink slip. Then, yes, he gets all pissed off because he's in a world title match next month. It's thinking outside of the box, which is why I enjoy and stick up for TNA. They don't get everything right, but they at least try new ideas. * That effort is why I tune in and stick up for them. *Insert snarky "and that's why they only push WWE rejects" line here.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Nov 22, 2007 22:10:19 GMT -5
What would be hilarious would be if someone forgot which briefcase they were supposed to grab, and grabbed the one with the pink slip even though they were supposed to get a World Title shot.
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Post by Hensley on Nov 22, 2007 22:48:09 GMT -5
Money in the Bank anyone? It's pretty much the same damn thing with a little twist, nothing to get epileptic about. Actually, it's more like 3 MitBs in one!
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Nov 22, 2007 23:14:46 GMT -5
Didn't Tazz, in his short and uneventiful WWF run, have a "I wanna get fired" gimmick?
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Post by hollywood on Nov 22, 2007 23:19:42 GMT -5
What would be hilarious would be if someone forgot which briefcase they were supposed to grab, and grabbed the one with the pink slip even though they were supposed to get a World Title shot. I'd pop for that. But I'm just a cold-hearted bastard that way.
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Post by EJS on Nov 22, 2007 23:37:08 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be better for a wrestler to not grab a brief case? No, not at all. Since then they wouldn't get a title shot. Obviously in kayfabe, anyone who agrees to be in this match has decided that they're willing to gamble on a 25% chance of getting fired in order to win a shot at a title.
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Post by toodarkmark on Nov 23, 2007 1:09:19 GMT -5
Its a way to push 2 or 3 stories along, and create 2 or 3 new ones. Its called booking.
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 23, 2007 1:14:34 GMT -5
Its a way to push 2 or 3 stories along, and create 2 or 3 new ones. Its called booking. No its called throw everything together in one match, it seems to happen quite often in TNA.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 23, 2007 1:35:51 GMT -5
Its a way to push 2 or 3 stories along, and create 2 or 3 new ones. Its called booking. No its called throw everything together in one match, it seems to happen quite often in TNA. Not in this case. It's a great way to give a reason for unlikely fueds and storylines to happen. When WWE changes storylines they no longer think pesky things like "reasons" and 'logic' are needed. Why does Edge attack Undertaker? Why do they advertise him on the Survivor Series poster if all he's doing is a run in? Who cares!
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Post by ItsaSantino on Nov 23, 2007 1:38:53 GMT -5
This has one huge fundamental design flaw. Obviously with wrestling being scripted, this won't happen, but...
What if the first three wrestlers to grab cases grab title shots? Who in their right mind would even go for the last case? Without a script this possibility would exist and would ruin the match if it occured.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 23, 2007 2:06:18 GMT -5
That's why they probably won't open the briefcases until after the match is over.
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Post by messiah on Nov 23, 2007 2:18:05 GMT -5
Its a way to push 2 or 3 stories along, and create 2 or 3 new ones. Its called booking. No its called throw everything together in one match, it seems to happen quite often in TNA. No, it's called having mid and lower card storylines that you advance through creative booking that doesn't revolve around the same old formula. I'm actually looking forward to this match, because if nothing else, I think it'll be advancing a good trend TNA has started as of late which is pushing younger talent. I would not be surprised to see at least one of the title shots go to someone who we didn't think of as a "contender" previously, i.e., Kaz.
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