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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 7, 2007 14:48:36 GMT -5
Well there's not much hope then, as you don't get much bigger fools than Zandig. And yeah, I'd say CHIKARA is closer to DDT than HUSTLE, but IMo does better wrestling than DDT. If they recived good finances, however, they'd do very well. Not neccessarily just because they would have the money, but because they're family friendly so will be looked on in a positive light in the public eye. Similar with ROH, since they tend to focus on wrestling being a legit sport, so might be credible among the pro sports newscircles. See I don't go into both promotions expecting workrate classics, I expect to laugh and be entertained. it's good stuff for both. Thouh I like DDT more because of CUTE REFS! I personally prefer Chikara of course, but to paraphrase Demetri Martin if he were talking about DDT, "Table vs. Ladder? Crazy awesome!"
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 7, 2007 14:51:25 GMT -5
I don't get why people want to group Pro Wrestling and Pro sports together.
One is sports-entertainment (like Harlem Globetrotters athletic feats in a fixed game), the other is a real sporting event
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Post by Godhand on Dec 7, 2007 14:53:13 GMT -5
I don't get why people want to group Pro Wrestling and Pro sports together. One is sports-entertainment (like Harlem Globetrotters athletic feats in a fixed game), the other is a real sporting event I dont get why you care. Some people take wrestlign a lot more seriously than others. To each their own.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 7, 2007 17:43:51 GMT -5
But I don't get how somebody can take Men in DRAGON COSTUMES and Chipmunk Costumes seriously as a sporting event.
Or guys dressed like Clowns fused with Ice Cream.
Or smaller guys who do gymnastics.
AM DRag is great, I get that. But wrestling has never been a true sport to me.
teach his own though.
I mean ROH could barely be labled as sports due to their serious nature at times, but CHIKARA, come on dude.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 8, 2007 1:12:49 GMT -5
I've always thought that CHIKARA is closer to Delfin's Osaka Pro than DDT. DDT is always a bit more 'adult' in it's level of humour.
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Post by samachine on Dec 8, 2007 2:10:48 GMT -5
Well......that was Zandig sadly. He was jsut being an idiot though. Maven Bently is the czw booker these days and from what I have heard Zandig has pretty much left ruinning the companey up to him. I forget who was booking czw in 05 and 06 but he was good, and those are widely considered czws best years. There best years were actually 03-05. 2006 was the beginning of the fall as they didn't capitalize on their end with the ROH/CZW war. That's when a lot of the roster was contributing, I know Excalibur was, and there was a group of the staff running the CZW side of the feud, then after it ended Zandig was seeing Necro, Super Dragon, Steen, etc. were all getting way more over than him and the other 3 yard-tards(his buds, Nick Gage, Lobo, etc, he refused to sell out his spot to the staff that wanted to buy it and started pushing the ultraviolent crap again. Necro quit CZW as a result, Dragon won't work CZW, or he didn't for several months afterwards(don't keep up with CZW since that) and a lot of the staff quit. Never understood why they feuded with CZW and not PWG, since ALL of CZW's 'invaders' were top PWG guys
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Post by Dragonfly on Dec 8, 2007 2:49:35 GMT -5
Well......that was Zandig sadly. He was jsut being an idiot though. Maven Bently is the czw booker these days and from what I have heard Zandig has pretty much left ruinning the companey up to him. I forget who was booking czw in 05 and 06 but he was good, and those are widely considered czws best years. I heard somewhere that he quit (or was fired, I don't remember which) after Zandig threw him down the flight of stairs. I think he's booking IWA Deep South now. Never understood why they feuded with CZW and not PWG, since ALL of CZW's 'invaders' were top PWG guys PWG wouldn't have made sense. Gabe wasn't interesting in going "out west" at the time and besides, they needed a promotion that could be seen as ROH's evil doppelganger.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 8, 2007 3:57:15 GMT -5
Chikara is more like Osaka Pro and JCW is more like DDT.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 8, 2007 4:05:16 GMT -5
I still think there's money to be made from an ROH/PWG war, especially since both companies share talent, and even Dragon Gate has shown a lot more interest to working Cali.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Dec 8, 2007 5:05:17 GMT -5
Is there any footage of DDT's product I could see? I once saw the Silence match and such but haven't seen much but I'm curious now
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 8, 2007 5:08:39 GMT -5
go to youtube look up ddt puroresu
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 8, 2007 5:09:57 GMT -5
Yeah there's DDT stuff on Youtube if you want to watch it there.
From everything I hear, It sound like PWG is hurt by all the guys retiring or falling apart. Guys like Super Dragon, Disco Machine, Taro, the TNA guys and now B-Boy are either on a limited schedule or retired. And isn't PWG run by the wrestlers themselves?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 8, 2007 9:41:36 GMT -5
Yeah there's DDT stuff on Youtube if you want to watch it there. From everything I hear, It sound like PWG is hurt by all the guys retiring or falling apart. Guys like Super Dragon, Disco Machine, Taro, the TNA guys and now B-Boy are either on a limited schedule or retired. And isn't PWG run by the wrestlers themselves? I believe, and I say believe, I don't know for sure, that it's run by Super Dragon, Disco Machine, Excalibur, Joey Ryan, Scott Lost, and...someone else who's name escapes me.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Dec 8, 2007 16:38:22 GMT -5
But I don't get how somebody can take Men in DRAGON COSTUMES and Chipmunk Costumes seriously as a sporting event. Or guys dressed like Clowns fused with Ice Cream. Or smaller guys who do gymnastics. AM DRag is great, I get that. But wrestling has never been a true sport to me. teach his own though. I mean ROH could barely be labled as sports due to their serious nature at times, but CHIKARA, come on dude. I never said CHIKARA treat it as a pure sport. I said ROH treat it as a pure sport. DDT is alright. I loved the time those 2 teams did a wrestling match as themselves on FPR instead of actually competing. T'was awesome. And I believe Kevin Steen is the other guy who runs PWG. Don't quote me on it though.
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