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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 7, 2007 12:37:43 GMT -5
Of course they have to use terms like 'it's been said' and 'a source tells me' they can't name the guys in wwe and tna who are giving them the info otherwise their source will get in serious trouble. Exactly. Its the same way in other areas of reporting. Hell they had a big trial recently over someone not wanting to reveal their source.
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Post by Cheeba on Dec 7, 2007 12:48:39 GMT -5
Christian needs to accept the fact that he will never be a top star in pro wrestling. He's decent in the ring and good on the mic. But is he great and/or Hall of Fame material? No.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 7, 2007 12:50:00 GMT -5
Of course they have to use terms like 'it's been said' and 'a source tells me' they can't name the guys in wwe and tna who are giving them the info otherwise their source will get in serious trouble. It's not about revelaing the source. I didn' say jack about revealign the source. The poroblem is they do anything and use all the language tricks to avoid saying that this is definatly going to happen, and don't fess up when they end up being wrong.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 7, 2007 12:51:00 GMT -5
Christian needs to accept the fact that he will never be a top star in pro wrestling. He's decent in the ring and good on the mic. But is he great and/or Hall of Fame material? No. I think he's already become a top star, hasn't he? Just because he's not on the same level as Hulk Hogan, the Rock, or Stone Cold doesn't mean he's mediocre. And if guys like Greg "The Hammer" Valentine can get in to the Hall of Fame, Christian should be a shoe-in. Of course they have to use terms like 'it's been said' and 'a source tells me' they can't name the guys in wwe and tna who are giving them the info otherwise their source will get in serious trouble. It's not about revelaing the source. I didn' say jack about revealign the source. The poroblem is they do anything and use all the language tricks to avoid saying that this is definatly going to happen, and don't fess up when they end up being wrong. It's called covering your ass. I'm a journalist myself, and anytime you report anything based on someone's word, even if every sign in the universe points to it being true, you have to make it clear that is was spoken by this person. Otherwise, people can accuse you of misreporting the facts. And, in this case, they actually AREN'T wrong. They're only reporting what's said to them, and they make it clear that's what they're doing. The people "wrong" in this case are their sources. But, like I said earlier, in an industry where plans can change by the hour, it's very hard to be accurate. What was true an hour ago could change completely.
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Post by B'Cup x on Dec 7, 2007 13:28:03 GMT -5
It's called covering your ass. I'm a journalist myself, and anytime you report anything based on someone's word, even if every sign in the universe points to it being true, you have to make it clear that is was spoken by this person. Otherwise, people can accuse you of misreporting the facts. . thing is that doesnt bother me. But if they are covering theyre arses i will remain sceptical. This is nothing against the reporters in the slightest.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Dec 7, 2007 13:43:24 GMT -5
"Dixie Carter is said to be unhappy in TNA... she believes that her push has been derailed by backstage politics, specifically the big oily naked guy. She's been working hard to get her release, refusing to job, wrestle or appear onscreen, and doing navel shots off of herself. Additionally, she has begun to believe that the Dixie Carter from Designing Women has eclipsed her in visibility in the all important 0-125 human demographic, and is said to be 'extraordinarily gassy' by backstage sources, who may or may be Shark Boy"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2007 13:47:09 GMT -5
Push Joe over Cage? You're kidding? Push the "homegrown" talent in TNA?
Somebody finally understands in TNA.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Dec 7, 2007 13:49:44 GMT -5
Bah! Shark Boy may or may have NOO-CLEE-OR HEET when this gets back to management!
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 7, 2007 13:58:48 GMT -5
As far as the whole newz thing goes...
I've often wondered, what do these so-called "sources" have to gain by reporting these things to Meltzer, or Alvarez, or whoever else? They're obviously not getting credit for it or they'd be out of a job, so what's the point? Why risk your job by giving away insider trade secrets when you're not getting anything substantial in return?
This is why I don't believe any of this stuff until I see it on my TV screen. Unless Meltzer gives the best BJ in the world, I'm not buying it.
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Post by B'Cup x on Dec 7, 2007 13:59:35 GMT -5
Bah! Shark Boy may or may have NOO-CLEE-OR HEET when this gets back to management! I thought nuclear heat was strictly a wwe thing, because every wrestler in TNA wants out anyway they dont care who likes or dislikes them =/
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Dec 7, 2007 14:03:31 GMT -5
Bah! Shark Boy may or may have NOO-CLEE-OR HEET when this gets back to management! I thought nuclear heat was strictly a wwe thing, because every wrestler in TNA wants out anyway they dont care who likes or dislikes them =/ Way to find plotholes in my joke. Thanks, buddy.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Dec 7, 2007 14:07:36 GMT -5
As far as the whole newz thing goes... I've often wondered, what do these so-called "sources" have to gain by reporting these things to Meltzer, or Alvarez, or whoever else? They're obviously not getting credit for it or they'd be out of a job, so what's the point? Why risk your job by giving away insider trade secrets when you're not getting anything substantial in return? This is why I don't believe any of this stuff until I see it on my TV screen. Unless Meltzer gives the best BJ in the world, I'm not buying it. "Backstage sources claim that Dave Meltzer could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, which makes him second only to Missy Hyatt - there is documentary evidence of Missy sucking a trailer hitch clean off of Ole Anderson's pickup"
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 7, 2007 14:10:34 GMT -5
As far as the whole newz thing goes... I've often wondered, what do these so-called "sources" have to gain by reporting these things to Meltzer, or Alvarez, or whoever else? They're obviously not getting credit for it or they'd be out of a job, so what's the point? Why risk your job by giving away insider trade secrets when you're not getting anything substantial in return? This is why I don't believe any of this stuff until I see it on my TV screen. Unless Meltzer gives the best BJ in the world, I'm not buying it. "Backstage sources claim that Dave Meltzer could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, which makes him second only to Missy Hyatt - there is documentary evidence of Missy sucking a trailer hitch clean off of Ole Anderson's pickup" You, sir, owe me a new keyboard. And since this is a laptop, I think you owe me a new laptop.
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Post by B'Cup x on Dec 7, 2007 14:10:36 GMT -5
I thought nuclear heat was strictly a wwe thing, because every wrestler in TNA wants out anyway they dont care who likes or dislikes them =/ Way to find plotholes in my joke. Thanks, buddy. well, when making jokes about "newzsites" youve got to be accurate. Kinda ironic seen as the "newzsites" dont have to be
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 7, 2007 15:05:00 GMT -5
I think a lot of the guys who give info to Meltzer and Alvarez usually have an agenda to get out there and that's why they do it. I mean, of course, some of their information is bias. Keller used to get a lot of his stuff from x pac, and some of that news was biased it was unbelievable. I'm sure Meltzer does his best to avoid sources like that, but you can't totally avoid it.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Dec 7, 2007 15:18:30 GMT -5
"Dixie Carter is said to be unhappy in TNA... she believes that her push has been derailed by backstage politics, specifically the big oily naked guy. She's been working hard to get her release, refusing to job, wrestle or appear onscreen, and doing navel shots off of herself. Additionally, she has begun to believe that the Dixie Carter from Designing Women has eclipsed her in visibility in the all important 0-125 human demographic, and is said to be 'extraordinarily gassy' by backstage sources, who may or may be Shark Boy" Is that a cut-and-paste from EWR? Jed Shaffer ~Dixie Carter is coming back as someone with great inner tension, and will be known as The Ultimate Worrier!
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Post by Baixo Astral on Dec 7, 2007 15:27:05 GMT -5
"Dixie Carter is said to be unhappy in TNA... she believes that her push has been derailed by backstage politics, specifically the big oily naked guy. She's been working hard to get her release, refusing to job, wrestle or appear onscreen, and doing navel shots off of herself. Additionally, she has begun to believe that the Dixie Carter from Designing Women has eclipsed her in visibility in the all important 0-125 human demographic, and is said to be 'extraordinarily gassy' by backstage sources, who may or may be Shark Boy" Is that a cut-and-paste from EWR? Jed Shaffer ~Dixie Carter is coming back as someone with great inner tension, and will be known as The Ultimate Worrier!
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 7, 2007 15:57:04 GMT -5
Is that a cut-and-paste from EWR? Jed Shaffer ~Dixie Carter is coming back as someone with great inner tension, and will be known as The Ultimate Worrier! As you make your way to Final Resolution...Christian Cage...
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 7, 2007 16:05:19 GMT -5
*I too am taking this with a grain of salt
So basically Joe acted like an ass to Nash, even though Nash bas been the opposite of what Joe said he was.
Hmm well that's all water under the bridge, and I hope Joe actually gets tips from Nash on Voice control during promos. If there's one thing Joe has a problem with during promos it's pitch. It's like he only knows 2 Smarmy and angry. or Smarngry.
Hmm Christian treated TNA as a vacation, a place where he could main event, get a good pay day and be gone from the whole politics in WWE.
Now TNA alledgedly is worse off in the back than WWE was when Christian, left. Even though Christian's had no animosity towards WWE, only their brutal touring schedule.
In fact i'd LOVE for Christian to be back in WWE, maybe ECW or Smackdown, as I think he and Punk could have an actual good fued. And with his work in TNA i could see him actually reaching Main EVent-Upper Midcard status. I can't believe i'm saying this. BUt I am a Peep.
Seriously his ring work was the ONLY thing that I thought was bland about him. His matches in TNA have been really good, he's not working much differently from his WWE work except he gets to do dives off the top more often nowadays and work a piledriver into matches. I really do like his work now as he's actualyl developed into a good worker. His mic skills are way above most everybody in TNA not named Kevin Nash, James Mitchell, Raven, or Kurt Angle. Which is actually saying a lot as those guys are excellent.
come back home christian!
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Post by richter on Dec 7, 2007 16:50:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if part of Christian being unhappy is due to something like this. The wrestlers hate all the politics in WWE and the schedule burns them out, yet after spending time in both places TNA may feel a little bush league. It's something Konnan has brought up.
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