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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 14, 2007 15:57:44 GMT -5
Wasn't there another nitro where you can't see Macho hit her, but you can kind of assume it by the way they're talking and the camera won't show them, that he's smacking her around in, the lifetime movie of the week sort of way?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 14, 2007 15:59:55 GMT -5
I didn't really mind them bringing Austin back despite his, shall we say, "marital indiscretions." But when they openly hinted that Debra might've deserved on the air in the days before his return, that was a different story. They did that? Jeez! Between that and TNA re-creating Pacman's 'making it rain' thing, and ROH being started by a phedophile, I'm starting to think the people that run wrestling companies are the most despicable people alive. you're just now realizing that? Wrestling's a horrible, sleazy business. If it's not wrestler's dying because of their own addictions or selfish self-destructive behavior, it's horribly sleazy promoters. Which is one of the reasons I refuse be one those types who defend it to death about prestige, honor, and being "Sport" that people should actually respect.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 14, 2007 16:01:36 GMT -5
Wasn't there another nitro where you can't see Macho hit her, but you can kind of assume it by the way they're talking and the camera won't show them, that he's smacking her around in, the lifetime movie of the week sort of way? Might've been, but I wasn't watching a lot of Nitro at the time. I'd usually catch the ending or so, as I was more interested in Raw. But I believe this was the aforementioned incident that thestinger brought up earlier on.
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Post by thestinger on Dec 14, 2007 16:09:54 GMT -5
But I believe this was the aforementioned incident that thestinger brought up earlier on. Yes, that was the incident that resulted in WCW apologizing to viewers on their webpage and punishing Savage by taking away a title run they had been promising him for awhile. Savage was booked to win the title from Nash on PPV, and hold it for a few months. Instead they had Macho drop the belt to Hogan the next night on Nitro when Nash powerbombed Savage and put Hogan on top of him. Macho became convinced at this point that Hogan and Bischoff were out to ruin his career, and rumors were that Savage wanted to return to the WWF. A year later, he returned to WCW for one surprise cameo during the New Blood storyline, ironically enough, coming to Hogan's aid. And that was it for Macho Man in a major wrestling company.
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Post by laotioncommotion on Dec 14, 2007 17:45:11 GMT -5
Yeah, what a crime that Hogan took those runs from Savage. There was a kid who could've gone far. WCW needed to realize the impressive young talent they had and not let the old guard have free reign of the title.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 14, 2007 22:19:57 GMT -5
Yeah, cuz it's not like there's 3x as many people who fly into spastic fits and angry rants any time somebody gives the slightest hint that they don't like Hogan, or don't believe that he invented wrestling single-handedly in 1984. It's one thing to dislike the guy, it's another to actually wish harm upon him and go on a tirade about how you hate him. I think that the ones who hate him so much far outnumber those who like him, especially on the internet. I dislike Kennedy, doesn't mean I'm going to make threads with "F*** KENNEDY.....KENNEDY" and how he's the worst person to ever lace up a pair of wrestling boots because he doesn't do enough wrestling moves. Nahh, there are a lot more Hogan fans than Hogan haters, look at the pops Hogan gets. Only the IWC hates Hogan.
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Post by angryfan on Dec 14, 2007 22:22:53 GMT -5
Wow, there's an awful lot of Hogan hate on the board this week. I'll say, you'd think he killed people's mothers and then ate their corpses by the way people are ranting over him. But then again, I guess wrestling is SERIOUZ BIZNEZZ!!!11 Dude, he totally did. The "vitamines" he screamed about for 20 years were actually soilent green. True story. I'm no Hogan fan, and have documented the WCW title situation more than once (Hogan had the belt for over 1,000 days between July 94 and the end of 99), but I'm not gonna get all hot and bothered because a pair of 43 year olds did two one day title swaps while Tony Schiavone screamed about the great young talent on display.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2007 23:58:25 GMT -5
Something borrowed and something blue? I would hate to be the one married to savage Snake Roberts ruined my weddin'.
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Post by Dolph Zalgo on Dec 15, 2007 12:08:45 GMT -5
f*** THE HOLK HOGEN!!! HE'S A f***ING JABRONI!!!! IM TEH REEEEEL HALL OF FAME ALL AMERICAN!!! AND DE RANDY SAVAGE IS A NO GOOD SON OF A BITCH MOTHERFOKER!!! HE ALWAYS TAKE MY MARIJUANA AND TAKE MY CRACK BUT NEVER GIVE ME BACK!!! FOCK DEM!!!
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Post by Lancers on Dec 15, 2007 15:14:42 GMT -5
After readin the list of WCW champions i remember Savages Runs in 98-99 THEY LASTED 1 DAY AND EACH TIME HE WAS BEATEN ON NITRO BY HOGAN smurf HIM Savages promos were something new and i place blame on him for the ratings decrease and not rocking up to the next 2 ppvs made me realise he really does deserve whats comin to him "NO...WIRE....HANGERS!!!!!"
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Dec 15, 2007 16:07:28 GMT -5
All I have to say about this thread is:
LOL.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Dec 16, 2007 12:26:06 GMT -5
I never marked for Hogan...although I indeed hated him as the Hollywood Hogan heel character and wanted to see him beaten every time he was WCW champ
yeah he used Savage many times to get the big belt off him, being a personal friend of him and all, but hell that´s what Hogan is about, politicking everything to his advantage
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 16, 2007 12:28:56 GMT -5
I never marked for Hogan...although I indeed hated him as the Hollywood Hogan heel character and wanted to see him beaten every time he was WCW champ yeah he used Savage many times to get the big belt off him, being a personal friend of him and all, but hell that´s what Hogan is about, politicking everything to his advantage To be fair, a lot of wrestlers have politicked in wrestling and that's the way it goes. Not saying it's right, but it's not a business that accentuates ethics and morals. Plus, the 2nd time he lost the belt, it was all Savage's doing with that footage I put up earlier of slapping around Torrie Wilson and Gorgeous George on TV.
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Post by marvelocity on Dec 16, 2007 12:42:48 GMT -5
I don't remember the second one day reign (1999 WCW was all pretty much a blur), but I do remember being upset at the first one day reign. Savage had one it the night before, and I was expecting when the NWO would split, Macho to lead the Wolfpac against Hogan's Black and White. Plus Scott Norton stood up for Macho against Hogan, and I thought they were going to try to push Norton to a main event spot (not that I loved Norton, but at least it would be someone new).
Plus, this was the same night Goldberg took the US Title off of Raven, in a very entertaining match. Kind of took the steam out of Goldberg's win.
Edit - I just watched the video, and Savage probably slapped Torrie because she was laughing while Macho was yelling at them (not condoning it, of course, but that is why he was upset with her).
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 16, 2007 12:53:12 GMT -5
I don't remember the second one day reign (1999 WCW was all pretty much a blur), but I do remember being upset at the first one day reign. Savage had one it the night before, and I was expecting when the NWO would split, Macho to lead the Wolfpac against Hogan's Black and White. Plus Scott Norton stood up for Macho against Hogan, and I thought they were going to try to push Norton to a main event spot (not that I loved Norton, but at least it would be someone new). Plus, this was the same night Goldberg took the US Title off of Raven, in a very entertaining match. Kind of took the steam out of Goldberg's win. Edit - I just watched the video, and Savage probably slapped Torrie because she was laughing while Macho was yelling at them (not condoning it, of course, but that is why he was upset with her). I remember being pissed off at the first win as well in the kayfabe sense as I was a huge Savage mark. As for the slap to Torrie, yeah it did look that way and seeing as how she was an ally of Nash around that time, it's not surprising in terms of the storyline, not saying I condone it either.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 16, 2007 13:15:38 GMT -5
Well WWF at the time had male on female violence all the time. The difference, I assume is that it was planned ahead of time, and agreed to by all parties, including the network airing the program. Torrie Wilson went on the record that she had absolutely no idea Macho was going to smack her across the face. And after he hit George he threw her, practically to the ground. Which Nitro was this, BTW? July 5, 1999, if you're still wondering, Hiroshi. Here's John Petrie's recap from his old Slobberknocker Central site (man, do I miss his stuff): rspw.org/petrie/990705.txt(I just spent the last hour looking for the exact date, going through the WCW title history at OWW, and cross referencing it with Petrie's recaps...man, I need something to do on Sundays).
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