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Post by maxx420 on Dec 17, 2007 15:45:16 GMT -5
Yeah. That was AFTER his tag-team title reign. It was a move to avoid confusion between Dallas & Dallas Page. Same as Lance Cade becoming Garrison Cade, 'cause WWE already had Lance Storm. Us fans are just too dumb to be able to tell the difference between two guys named Lance, y'see, even though they look completely different. However, having Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho was fine... even having them feud for a few months was fine... Not that I ever got confused between them, but that's a bit of a double standard there. Also, Shane Helms became Gregory Helms when he joined WWE because there was already Shane McMahon. That was his decision, according to an interview I read. He didn't want to use "Shane" or "Helms" because of Shane McMahon, as you pointed out & he felt "Helms" was too close to "Helmsley".
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Dec 17, 2007 15:49:18 GMT -5
I agree with you guys fully BUT... TNA shares talent with the indies. Which means that indie crowds are drawn to TNA because of said talent. So changing their names could hurt them with the fan interest. I want to watch well known indie stars wrestling as their well known indie star gimmicks. I think it is because TNA is trying to do the opposite. Instead of advertising indy names to attract the indy audience, they are trying to create their own names in terms of attracting the mainstream audience. For example, your average mainstream fan is not going to know the difference between Low Ki and Senshi. TNA figures that since this is the case, they might as well use the name that they own. It is true that TNA does use indy wrestlers, but they are trying to bring these indy wrestlers into the mainstream as opposed to booking for indy fans.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Dec 18, 2007 12:15:22 GMT -5
I agree with you guys fully BUT... TNA shares talent with the indies. Which means that indie crowds are drawn to TNA because of said talent. So changing their names could hurt them with the fan interest. I want to watch well known indie stars wrestling as their well known indie star gimmicks. I think it is because TNA is trying to do the opposite. Instead of advertising indy names to attract the indy audience, they are trying to create their own names in terms of attracting the mainstream audience. For example, your average mainstream fan is not going to know the difference between Low Ki and Senshi. TNA figures that since this is the case, they might as well use the name that they own. It is true that TNA does use indy wrestlers, but they are trying to bring these indy wrestlers into the mainstream as opposed to booking for indy fans. That logic makes perfect sense, you would think that it may hurt the wrestlers though. Unless they wrestle as their tna names outside of TNA.
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Post by bobolebowski on Dec 18, 2007 12:17:49 GMT -5
They want to rights to the names. Same with Senshi. Basically they want them to have names TNA own. Not quite sure what to say beyond that. Its smart for them to do it..but if they are going to do it they dont need to raise a big stink about WWE doing it anymore. Especially if they are going to start doing the same thing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2007 13:16:20 GMT -5
huh, I thought TNA was above that. Above what exactly? It's not exactly underhanded or anything. Just makes licensing a ton easier on everyone involved. See "Captain Charisma" for where not trademarking a moniker makes things very confusing, legality wise.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 18, 2007 13:17:55 GMT -5
I think the problem is not when you give someone else a new name and trademark it, but when you basically take a name someone used in different places for a period of time cause you bought the trademark. The Dudley thing and the Justin Credible things spring to mind.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 18, 2007 13:56:51 GMT -5
I had a few bad weeks where I missed all of the internet stuff, so if this was ever explained I missed it. whats wrong with Angel Williams and Talia Madison? Why the name changes? TNA wants to own the names they're promoting. Standard issue WWE policy. Plus, TNA thought their names didn't sound "womanly" enough.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Dec 18, 2007 14:08:38 GMT -5
I dont like the new names. Oh well
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Post by Mister Yummy on Dec 20, 2007 2:48:47 GMT -5
wwe is different they arent using indy guys so they can change the names without worry of losing possible indy fans... Trevor Murdoch? Well, at least I can muse to myself about which is the better Rhodes, Cody or Trevor. I love it when their teams wrestle.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 20, 2007 4:31:44 GMT -5
If I remember right Hoyt changed his name when ddp came to tna. Yeah. That was AFTER his tag-team title reign. It was a move to avoid confusion between Dallas & Dallas Page. Same as Lance Cade becoming Garrison Cade, 'cause WWE already had Lance Storm. Us fans are just too dumb to be able to tell the difference between two guys named Lance, y'see, even though they look completely different. However, having Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho was fine... even having them feud for a few months was fine... Not that I ever got confused between them, but that's a bit of a double standard there. Oh, for some reason I thought it was during the title reign. My mistake - I was less familiar then with TNA than I am now, which still isn't saying much. I'll refrain from bashing it, since I'm more indifferent than opposed. But yeah, the "Lance Cade = Garrison Cade" thing was annoying, too. What the hell kind of name is Garrison? And shouldn't he have had a hand puppet of some sort? Perhaps one wearing a hat? Or maybe just bring a twig to ringside with him?
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